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Audio quality differences between models in same series?
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Audio quality differences between models in same series?

Hi

Is there any differences in actual audio quality between these models:

Focusrite Scarlett Solo vs 2i2
Steinberg UR12 vs UR22 MK2
Behringer UMC202HD vs UMC204HD
NI Komplete Audio 1 vs 2

Those are the four serieses I'm interested in. I will only record electric guitar and vocals so all of the above have required inputs. I just want to know if the internal parts are the same between the cheaper and more expensive models and I'm not getring worse recording quality by choosing the cheaper model.
Old 4 weeks ago
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I just want to know if the internal parts are the same between the cheaper and more expensive models
Of course they are not the same. Each one will have different parts. All different interfaces use different parts.
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Is there any differences in actual audio quality between these models:
Depending on your personnel taste and the type of guitar you have, the type of strings you use, the pick-ups you have and some other little things, So what will sound best to you depends on those things, especially your personnel taste.

That means that a $100 audio interface can sound better to you then a $1,000 audio interface in a blind test or a $500 interface can sound better than are $2,000 interface.
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Of course they are not the same. Each one will have different parts. All different interfaces use different parts.
Ok. So for example, Solo uses different parts than 2i2?
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Ok. So for example, Solo uses different parts than 2i2?
You're splitting hairs. You're doing simple home recording. You're obviously on a very tight budget (Who isn't?).

You'd probably do just fine with the cheapest interface on your list. Get that one.
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Hi

Is there any differences in actual audio quality between these models:

Focusrite Scarlett Solo vs 2i2
Steinberg UR12 vs UR22 MK2
Behringer UMC202HD vs UMC204HD
NI Komplete Audio 1 vs 2

Those are the four serieses I'm interested in. I will only record electric guitar and vocals so all of the above have required inputs. I just want to know if the internal parts are the same between the cheaper and more expensive models and I'm not getring worse recording quality by choosing the cheaper model.
All entry-level. Assuming your monitors and abilities are entry-level as well, you'll never notice any differences. You can peruse the manufacturers spec sheets for the digits, but suggest you make any purchase choice among the mentioned items on features.
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Hi

Is there any differences in actual audio quality between these models:

Focusrite Scarlett Solo vs 2i2
Steinberg UR12 vs UR22 MK2
Behringer UMC202HD vs UMC204HD
NI Komplete Audio 1 vs 2

Those are the four serieses I'm interested in. I will only record electric guitar and vocals so all of the above have required inputs. I just want to know if the internal parts are the same between the cheaper and more expensive models and I'm not getring worse recording quality by choosing the cheaper model.
Most of the Steinbergs list The Yamaha D class A mic Pre
The MR 816 I have used has those. They are a great pre
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At one level you are comparing hammers. The difference is not signifiant.
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In a previous year, when I was buying a smaller interface for location recording, I heard a preamp difference between brands, but not much difference between different models of the same brand. I preferred the Steinberg to the Behringer, which I found slightly more to my taste than the Focusrite. Within the Steinberg line, the USB interface pres had slightly less clean gain, but the D-pres sounded generally the same up and down the line, as did the headphone and line outs.
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Of course they are not the same. Each one will have different parts. All different interfaces use different parts.
I don't think you got what he was asking. He isn't asking does (for ex) the Focusrite use the same parts as the Steinberg, but does the UR12 use the same parts as the UR22. And I feel safe in saying yes, but very generally speaking. Of course it varies here and there.

I agree that the diff in these models is negligible at most; they are all fine AIs.
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Thank you guys. I will listen few comparisons and then get the model that sounds best to me. I'm sure they are all fine.
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Consider the stability of the drivers. I have done an extensive research a few years ago when I was selecting a new interface (after many frustrations that were due to problematic drivers) and I was left with 2 names: Steinberg and RME. I suggest to research various forums to see how many people had problems with an interface before buying it.
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I'm sure they are all fine.
Don't be so sure, I recently heard a Behringer ADA8000 and I didn't like the quality of the sound, at all.
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Don't be so sure, I recently heard a Behringer ADA8000 and I didn't like the quality of the sound, at all.
Yeah, that isn't on the list; a mere technicality, though.
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Don't be so sure, I recently heard a Behringer ADA8000 and I didn't like the quality of the sound, at all.
The 8000 isn’t a current product. The current 8200 specs better and sounds better than the 8000, and is a good low budget choice if you need to add 8 decent pres.
Neither of those Behringer ADAT models is a pony in this race. But it seems unfair to the brand to dis their decades-old 8000 in this discussion, so that’s my point in staying off topic with you for a moment.
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Behringer U-Phoria UMC1820 is the Behringer item that is an 8 channel interface

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At one level you are comparing hammers. The difference is not signifiant.
If there is a hammer forum anywhere, they would think that is an incredibly stupid comment.

Of course we aren’t in the hammer forum, and your comment makes sense here.
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The 8000 isn’t a current product. The current 8200 specs better and sounds better than the 8000, and is a good low budget choice if you need to add 8 decent pres.
Neither of those Behringer ADAT models is a pony in this race. But it seems unfair to the brand to dis their decades-old 8000 in this discussion, so that’s my point in staying off topic with you for a moment.
That's a fair point, I just wrote the first example that came to my mind to say that I would not be sure they are all fine. I looked for a couple of samples captured with the ADA8200 and I have to say I'm not impressed. Better than the ADA8000, but I'd surely prefeer to use a Steinberg MR816 (another price ofc, but also 10 years older). I don't even know if I'd choose the ADA8200 over the M-Audio FW410 which I had and hated (2004) (now you got me curious and i HAVE to test that ).

Back on topic, unfortunately I didn't find appropriate shootouts regarding the models you are considering. I nevertheless found some shootouts of various interfaces of the series you mentioned. Personally I would go for a Steinberg, but in one case I found the Focusrite to be a bit warmer on some guitars and you may like that. I didn't like the Behringers.
YMMV, but IMO more expensive interfaces do sound better. If that can help, on a test I was surprised by the difference between the UR22 and the UR28M, same serie but not same sound (if the test has been done correctly, which I cannot guarantee).
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IMO more expensive interfaces do sound better.
That is a very strong prejudice, conscious or unconscious, which is the best reason to say that blind testing is the only reliable way to compare components.
As an example, a client had to tell me that my new $300 mic that I had put up just to hear, actually sounded better on his voice than my all-time favorite multi-thousand dollar edge-terminated tube condenser that I had put up to USE.
I thought the cheaper mic sounded surprisingly good, but I was unconsciously unable to put both mcs on an equal level and make a fair analysis.

I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with your hearing or judgement (or mine, because I’m in the same group). It is an almost universal human inability to separate what you hear from the label or price tag, IF you have that information.
Enough said... it seems that more than half of GSers don’t believe this proven fact, although most like to be called engineers.
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Behringer U-Phoria UMC1820 is the Behringer item that is an 8 channel interface
If you are trying to correct the previous posts, the 8000 and 8200 were correctly identified as ADAT preamps, not interfaces. In any case, this thread isn’t about 8 channel ADATs or interfaces.
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If you are trying to correct the previous posts, the 8000 and 8200 were correctly identified as ADAT preamps, not interfaces. In any case, this thread isn’t about 8 channel ADATs or interfaces.
When the 8000 and 8200 were mentioned, I brought up the 1820 because it is an interface.

and $278 list new.
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When the 8000 and 8200 were mentioned, I brought up the 1820 because it is an interface.

and $278 list new.
Read the OP’s first post.
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