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Old 6 days ago
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Mixing question.

I've noted that depending on the output volume of my Apollo Twin Duo, the mix changes substantially, at least to my ears.


I like to mix anywhere from barely audible to fairly loud, and anything in between.


So which is the most accurate?
Old 6 days ago
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Your mix will always sound different when played back later on different volumes.
So make it sound good (even if it is different) on all levels.
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But that will require constantly changing the mix, and when I do that, the last one will sound more "correct"

So I'm confused, and is there a recommended standard dB anywhere?
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PS

Are you saying that a final mix is basically a compromise that will sound "good" at all levels/on different playback systems, but not "great" at all levels/on different playback systems?
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Calibrate ur monitors.
Band pass a pink noise 500>2000 Hz at -20 dbfs and have ur monitors give our 76 dbspl c weighted.
Maintain that level, and mix to it.
That should do the trick.
Old 6 days ago
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Music sounds different at different levels (and playback systems), at what sounds "great" is taste.
I generally mix at decent speaking level en check if it doesn't collapse at low levels or grids at loud levels.
Check with reference tracks to compare, but keep in mind that maybe you (just like me) dislike listening to music at load levels or what ever.
Old 5 days ago
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Originally Posted by jerrydpi View Post
PS

Are you saying that a final mix is basically a compromise that will sound "good" at all levels/on different playback systems, but not "great" at all levels/on different playback systems?
From a production standpoint we can only do the best we can for the best-case scenario, and/or compensate for the most common system. Once your mix is out of your hands you have zero control. It'll be played back on anything from a great system to someone who only hooked up the left channel to two speakers placed in a terrible sounding room... you know, or whatever...

So, you get the best montioring situation you can, make it sound the way you want, have a mastering engineer tweak and both compensate for what you missed as well as enhance what you've done, and that's all you can do.

There's so much subjectivity in mixing that in my opinion that's about as much as you can do.
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Originally Posted by mattiasnyc View Post
.....There's so much subjectivity in mixing that in my opinion that's about as much as you can do.

And hence my insanity of always looking for the perfect/final mix, and never achieving it
Old 5 days ago
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Here's a good rule to go by. Yes, your mix will sound different at different levels, but....

If something sounds really good at a relatively low level, chances are better than average it will sound good at higher volumes. The opposite is rarely true, especially if you don't have really really good monitoring. I usually mix below 80dB. (measured at the mix position) In fact a lot of the times it's in the mid 70s. I think that if you're looking for consistency you should try to keep the levels constant. If you mix something that sounds great at a low volume and you hear something off when you crank it, try taking it back down to the low level and see if you can fix something there, instead of trying to make it work at a higher level.
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my thing was always rough in hot when eq'ng individual instruments ..take an ear break.. listen low when riding and blending..listen moderate when A/B ing against the target songs..but that's me
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