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Old 27th March 2019
  #151
LOL, the poor MaaT guy got owned ;-) Watch from here:

YouTube (turn on subtitles if you are not German)
Old 26th July 2019
  #152
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Is this a standalone or compatible with Pro Tools?
Old 26th July 2019
  #153
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Is this a standalone or compatible with Pro Tools?
It's a plugin for all major daws.
Old 26th July 2019
  #154
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If only if it was as good as it claims to be, maybe then it would be worth the price. But since it's not, there's no excuse for that price, not even if the license is expensive.
Old 29th July 2019
  #155
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Imo the asking price is absurd and yeah, they shouldn't have advertised something wrong, but does that really deserve all the flames and hate?
I for one, am more concerned about a company which repeatedly didn't keep its promises. At the time I bought (and still have) a license for the Red Eq, lp split comp and k-stereo. Great tools but they're 32 bit only and lp split com doesn't provide any latency compensation info to the host.
Several times I've expressed my concerns with Algorithmix and every time I've been given promises the fix (latency comp) and updates (64 bit versions) were really round the corner, just a nasty bug with copy protection to fix or whatever was the excuse of the day. As we all know it never happened. Alright they don't HAVE to release an update but why on earth repeatedly make promises that were never kept?

Besides, I'm surprised & disappointed no agreements have been made between Algorithmix and Maat regarding former Algorithmix clients, for instance in the form of an attractive crossgrade pricing. When you've already spent 1k on a specialised tool, most of us are not ready to spend the same amount of money *just* for a 64 bit port and an (admittedly much) nicer GUI.
Old 30th July 2019
  #156
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I'm surprised & disappointed no agreements have been made between Algorithmix and Maat regarding former Algorithmix clients, for instance in the form of an attractive crossgrade pricing. When you've already spent 1k on a specialised tool, most of us are not ready to spend the same amount of money *just* for a 64 bit port and an (admittedly much) nicer GUI.
Hey Sequenza,
Agreed, thanks for mentioning that. Crossgrades for Algo customers are coming, along w/other announcements related to existing owners of our thEQ family.
Old 30th July 2019
  #157
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Hey Sequenza,
Agreed, thanks for mentioning that. Crossgrades for Algo customers are coming, along w/other announcements related to existing owners of our thEQ family.
Any chance to take off the requirement of the Wibu dongle?
Old 30th July 2019
  #158
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Any chance to take off the requirement of the Wibu dongle?
Nope, sorry man. For security, versatility, disaster recovery and license portability among other reasons, (see FAQ), we’ve chosen Wibu over PACE or a home grown approach. The 3-Series CmSticks for sale on our site include a $50 voucher which basically covers the cost of the dongle. If you are a MAGIX user, that Stick can be used for their licenses as well.
Old 30th July 2019
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Nope, sorry man. For security, versatility, disaster recovery and license portability among other reasons, (see FAQ), we’ve chosen Wibu over PACE or a home grown approach. The 3-Series CmSticks for sale on our site include a $50 voucher which basically covers the cost of the dongle. If you are a MAGIX user, that Stick can be used for their licenses as well.
Ok, sorry man.
Old 2nd August 2019
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Sorry for spreading more negativity, but CodeMeter really is the main reason for me not to even consider these EQ's even though I would love to try them. I bought one of the metering plugins and sure, it did work for a few months after a few problems with CodeMeter got sorted out, but now I can't use it again.. because of CodeMeter. The only reason for me to write this is that I still hope that MAAT will change to a protection system that actually works.
Old 2nd August 2019
  #161
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Sorry for spreading more negativity, but CodeMeter really is the main reason for me not to even consider these EQ's even though I would love to try them. I bought one of the metering plugins and sure, it did work for a few months after a few problems with CodeMeter got sorted out, but now I can't use it again.. because of CodeMeter. The only reason for me to write this is that I still hope that MAAT will change to a protection system that actually works.
My personal experience is that ilok has been much less reliable and on a regular basis I still get those warning messages of all sorts. If memory serves well, not so long ago it was also the reason NOT to buy a plug...
Conversely codemeter has always been good to me and invisible to the system (workload) and I'm talking about 4 sticks on 3 different computers. Are you on a Mac, which could explain our different experiences?

Nevertheless I also consider it's not OK having to buy a stick to be able to test drive a plug.
Old 2nd August 2019
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Are you on a Mac, which could explain our different experiences?
Yes, I'm on a mac.
Old 3rd August 2019
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LOL, the poor MaaT guy got owned ;-) Watch from here:

YouTube (turn on subtitles if you are not German)
Man...auto translate sucks on youtube. It's hard to tell what he's saying. Can you summarize what he said plz.
Old 4th August 2019
  #164
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Man...auto translate sucks on youtube. It's hard to tell what he's saying. Can you summarize what he said plz.
it's useless.. if the original subtitles are hand coded then the translation service is sometimes ok ish.. but this is auto translating to German then to English lol.. it's ridiculous.

I don't understand why a video like this doesn't have english subtitles.
Old 19th August 2019
  #165
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@ 01010110 Hey man, I'm on Mac as well and not running just their EQ but also other tools. No problems whatsoever. Nor high CPU taxation. And just to be clear, I'm not their advocat or crew memeber but paying customer. I have nothing but praises on their behalf! Really.

That's all from my side regarding this issue of WiBu and security details. Price-wise I can't argue that. OrangeEQ is steep for me as well as for some other users here. But hey, if I were a facility in need of such a tool, a facility of that professional and turnover magnitude, and if it would turn out to be unquestionable tool above all other tools alike I would probably go for it. At least I'd pay for dongle, put all other licenses there and demo OrangeEQ.

Oh well, that's that. Similar like mic for 900 bucks vs. 9.000 bucks. Right?

Best to all you Slutz out there!

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Old 19th August 2019
  #166
Your microphone comparison makes no sense because this EQ simply does not sound any better than any other $49 LP EQ of 2019. The technical implementation, as discussed in the German video with several well known DSP coders, nulls out to any current 2019 LP EQ. Surely this algo was new and unique in 2009, but it isn´t in 2019. Everyone is using it now, and there are even better implementations with fewer side artifacts as discussed in the German video as well. It´s like you´ve just paid $1000 for a 10 years old car, which, at that time in the past, was surely worth it´s $1000, but nowadays is worth just $50 as the technology is not new nor unique anymore and is being used by everyone. You´ve just lost a lot of money for nothing, sorry to say.
Old 19th August 2019
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Your microphone comparison makes no sense because this EQ simply does not sound any better than any other $49 LP EQ of 2019. The technical implementation, as discussed in the German video with several well known DSP coders, nulls out to any current 2019 LP EQ. Surely this algo was new and unique in 2009, but it isn´t in 2019. Everyone is using it now, and there are even better implementations with fewer side artifacts as discussed in the German video as well. It´s like you´ve just paid $1000 for a 10 years old car, which, at that time in the past, was surely worth it´s $1000, but nowadays is worth just $50 as the technology is not new nor unique anymore and is being used by everyone. You´ve just lost a lot of money for nothing, sorry to say.
Oh well, which product for "similar" uses should I use? DIY compressor of FET and/or VCA like or original of same characteristics? I think that was not my point. If that is so wrong that deserves an aplogy then - I apologize.

My main interest was more in the realm of WiBu and/or CodeMeter and behavior, protection, CPU taxation etc.

Oh, BTW, why wouldn't microphone be good comparison? Or any FET and/or VCA compressor, vintage and latest DIY kit? All known components, all known architecture, all same point to point (or usin of PCBs) build, same components - huge price difference between DIY and let's use for an example original UREI or original G-SSL for that matter. Why that wouldn't be similar comparison enough for proving the point? If that EQ and that code is that good, and if it's still under intellectual rights and no one has made it that good then why do you think I made it that wrong? I am not trying to start the flame here. Just want to know why is that off for you?

Anyway, it's all good. If I made wrong comparison then I just have to apologize to you. Right?! And I do.

Best to all of you Slutz!

Krešo
Old 21st August 2019
  #168
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Anyone tried Blue?
Old 21st August 2019
  #169
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New Blue sounds just like old Blue only with single channel, M/S and stereo choices on each band.
Old 21st August 2019
  #170
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Oh well, which product for "similar" uses should I use? DIY compressor of FET and/or VCA like or original of same characteristics? I think that was not my point. If that is so wrong that deserves an aplogy then - I apologize.

My main interest was more in the realm of WiBu and/or CodeMeter and behavior, protection, CPU taxation etc.

Oh, BTW, why wouldn't microphone be good comparison? Or any FET and/or VCA compressor, vintage and latest DIY kit? All known components, all known architecture, all same point to point (or usin of PCBs) build, same components - huge price difference between DIY and let's use for an example original UREI or original G-SSL for that matter. Why that wouldn't be similar comparison enough for proving the point? If that EQ and that code is that good, and if it's still under intellectual rights and no one has made it that good then why do you think I made it that wrong? I am not trying to start the flame here. Just want to know why is that off for you?

Anyway, it's all good. If I made wrong comparison then I just have to apologize to you. Right?! And I do.

Best to all of you Slutz!

Krešo
Because we are not talking about a piece of analog equipment here but a digital DSP implementation that is used by everyone nowadays with the exact same code implementation. There are not variables like transformers or whatever here. It´s 1:1 the same.

No need to apologize for anything.
Old 21st August 2019
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Because we are not talking about a piece of analog equipment here but a digital DSP implementation that is used by everyone nowadays with the exact same code implementation. There are not variables like transformers or whatever here. It´s 1:1 the same.

No need to apologize for anything.
Yeah, OK. All good. Thank you for replying!

Krešo
Old 21st August 2019
  #172
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New Blue sounds just like old Blue only with single channel, M/S and stereo choices on each band.
That sounds nice. Would love to try it when it becomes available, but this wibu thing...
Old 21st August 2019
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I've been using codemeter for 17 years with no problems!
Old 21st August 2019
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I'm using it way less than 17 years but also no problems with CodeMeter whatsoever here as well!
Old 22nd August 2019
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I get that and it's good to know. I meant in order to demo it...
Old 22nd August 2019
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'Older' users could also chime in. So far, and I am running (while working, at the same time) at least two plugins, sometimes three and CPU taxation is 0.1%. I don't know, I really didn't have any issue whatsoever related to either their plugs or system stuff they use and utilitise.
Old 23rd August 2019
  #177
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If I have to read "analog" one more time on the theEQBlue product page I'm going to vomit. Anyways given the last plugin already was a marketing bluff with old code in it, I think this is too. Would demo it but I'm not looking forward to buy a dongle just for demoing And know you have to pay for the eq bands you're using.
Old 26th August 2019
  #178
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I like some of MAAT's analisys tools and just found out about the EQ's....from what i can see here, the Orange eq was a huge fail - at least in terms of how it has been released etc.

The question i have is this - can any of these (including the new blue one) really compete with Equillibrium? That thing has just blown everything else away for me. Does decade old code hold a candle too Daves recent masterpieces?

And as for the blue EQ - the pricing strategy is insane - double the price for 6 more eq curves...what is that all about?
Will all eq's be included in the same subscription? I.e will one be able to use all of their products for 120 per year? That is the only way i can see myself even trying these.

Just a little confused at the moment. I always keep an eye out for EQ's, but nothing has come close to Equilibrium so far (though crave is very good)
Old 4 weeks ago
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This is the one I'm waiting for:

https://www.maat.digital/theqred/
Old 3 weeks ago
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This is the one I'm waiting for:

https://www.maat.digital/theqred/
What's the difference between the original Orange, Blue and Red from Algorithmix?
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