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Introducing the Neve 8424 Console

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Introducing the Neve® 8424 Console – A Modern Console Designed For Today’s Connected Workflows

This small footprint, versatile console majors on connectivity, giving users complete and fast control of their sessions without compromising on sound quality.

Legendary 80-series Neve sound, 4 groups, 24 channel faders


Burnley, UK. June 22nd 2020: Following the success of the hugely popular Genesys Black console, British manufacturer AMS Neve has unveiled another classic in the shape of the Neve® 8424 – A small format console with a large format sound based on the iconic 80-series console range.

The 8424 console is designed to fit the needs of the modern hybrid studio where the speed of in-the-box workflow is enhanced with the ultimate sound quality of analogue outboard gear. Designed to be straightforward and accessible to all, this versatile and powerful desk provides a centralised platform with unparalleled connectivity, facilitating an ergonomic link between the linear analogue processing world of outboard gear, analogue synths and instruments, to the digital world of DAW workflow, software plugins and session recall.

Capitalising on Neve's sixty years of technical heritage and highly revered analogue circuit design, the British-designed 8424 fits perfectly into many different applications. Whether you're a music producer or an artist with your own project studio, the owner of a small professional recording studio or the person in charge of an educational facility, this compact, budget-conscious desk delivers everything you need to record, mix, monitor and master music quickly, marrying Neve’s revered sonic excellence with the speed and flexibility required for today’s connected workflows.

Recording: The 8424’s dual-input channel strip allows for seamless switching between recording and mixing inputs without additional patching. Simple input connectivity via 24 line-level inputs, dual 1073® preamps, and dual Instrument DI channels makes the 8424 the perfect console for artists to effortlessly connect and record their instruments, and performers can record directly from the control room, taking advantage of the 8424’s dual cue mix system with talkback/return talkback capability and dual headphone amplifiers.

Mixing: The 8424 offers the ultimate analogue mixing platform with 24 DAW returns across 24 channel faders or, for larger DAW sessions, a 48-Mix mode that allows a total of 48 mono inputs with individual level and pan controls to be mixed through the 8424’s Marinair® transformer-coupled stereo mix bus. Engineers can take advantage of the 8424’s mono and stereo aux busses to connect to their favourite outboard FX units and route them back into the console’s two dedicated stereo reverb returns. Four mono groups with 2-band shelving EQ, Inserts, and Direct Outs make this console ideal for stem mixing. The 8424 stereo mix bus gives true voltage mixing into Marinair® transformers, as found in the legendary Neve 80-series consoles, while additional features such as Stereo Insert, 2-band shelving EQ and Neve’s proprietary Stereo Width control give engineers, artists and producers all of the tools they need to create polished, professional recordings.

Connecting: Each Channel, Group and Stereo Mix bus has its own switchable insert point, giving a level of connectivity to analogue outboard units only found on large-format consoles. Dual on-board 500 series slots allow engineers to customise their signal chain and build a modular hybrid recording system, all connected and centralized through the 8424 console.

The 8424 has an on-board Recall system, which further integrates the console into the modern hybrid studio workflow. This unique feature enables this pure analogue console to save, load, and recall all settings, faders and pot positions for on a session by session basis. With this unrestricted workflow, engineers can take advantage of all analogue features without the added worry of losing console settings and wasting valuable studio time.

“Modern small studio hybrid setups often lack analogue metering, signal routing, talkback and accurate control room monitoring options, key features that only large format studio consoles deliver,” says David Walton, AMS Neve Distribution Manager. “Our engineers wanted to put these features back into the heart of the 8424 console, giving artists, producers and engineers the professional tools required to work faster, smarter and more effectively.”

Walton adds that by providing a central hub that brings various pieces of audio equipment together, combined with a high-channel analogue summing count, the 8424 console assists the modern studio workflow, giving users the capability of working on large sessions with an easy transition from working In the Box. “In any configuration, the 8424 console offers an excellent studio control surface with comprehensive monitoring and signal routing capabilities. This eliminates the typical collection of awkwardly interfaced devices and puts a proper Neve console back in the heart of the studio.”

Classic, but with a modern twist, the 8424’s name alone references so much that is iconic about the Neve brand, delivering Neve 80 series voltage mixing sound (thanks to the Marinair® Transformers), plus four mono groups and, of course, 24 channel faders.

Key Features of the 8424 Console include:

• Two Inputs Per Channel – Seamlessly switch from Mix to Record Inputs
• Third channel strip Input for dual-layer use
• Marinair® Transformers on Mix, AFL, CUE bus for true Neve voltage mixing
• 80-series Neve sound in a compact frame
• Large format console Centre Section - Multiple speaker sets, dual Cue system and three-way talkback system
• Internal Snapshot system to Save/Load/Recall all console settings across multiple sessions
• 500 series slots for internal expansion options
• 1073® preamps and DI inputs with Smart Routing for recording in the live or Control room
• In-Line Console capability
• Mix up to 48 Mono Signals at once
• 25-way D-Type and Balanced Jack Inputs on rear and on front for a combination of simple and professional I/O Connection
• The 8424 is designed to connect to and utilize all of your instruments and outboard equipment, becoming the centrepiece of your studio

The Neve® 8424 console is now shipping.

The price of the 8424 is £17,950 / $24,950. For more information, please visit: www.ams-neve.com

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Old 1 week ago
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Cool NEW - Neve console - announced today

The new Neve 8424 Console

The Studio Shop in London already have one on display and demo.

Old 1 week ago
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Looks;
Awesome!

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OMFG ! This is awesome.

17950 british pounds or 32390 ozziedollars.

Neve and SSL are really making it more affordable these days.

Cheers
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Oh this looks killer ! Take my money!
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I know it would impact the cost a bit, but wish one of these desks would include some DAW control. at least on a few channels

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BRILLIANT...

...misconception!

(i'm tempted to add: i'd have absolutely no use for it, even if i wanted a small analog desk. and i have no idea who else would want a desk with these features, mostly defined by the lack of any - but maybe i'm just old fashioned to expect a desk to have ALL features traditionally getting associated with a desk...)
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Wow, incredible price point for this console, I wonder if automated faders could be an upgrade?
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Only two 1073 preamps and no EQ's? lol
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The preamp thing was my first thought too. Does the SSL in line have more than 2 preamps?
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OMFG ! This is awesome.

17950 british pounds or 32390 ozziedollars.

Neve and SSL are really making it more affordable these days.

Cheers
I stand corrected......

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No meterbridge either. What up??
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BuT iT SaYs nEvE oN iT
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Wow the NEVE name and shell design without any of the landmark components and engineering and power supply. Its like their own version of a glorified USB Controller. "But its a NEVE" lol. Welcome to the future.
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That's a lot of money for a summing mixer with center section and a couple of nice preamps. I'm not sure who would buy this. There is a huge hole in the middle of the market for those who want more than a cheap digital console but can't afford a Genysys or an SSL AWS. This doesn't fill it though.
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Looks great to me. If you want 1073's and EQ's on every channel, go pay $100k for the 16 channel BCM sidecar. What did you expect for under $30k? There are plenty of studios this would fit perfectly into. This place is turning into a giant home renovation show. Apparently you all live in a universe where professional artisanal pencil makers have budgets of $5 million dollars...
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What on Earth is the point in this? £25k inc vat for what is basically a summing mixer and master section. At first I assumed it had 24 mic inputs and thought that seemed quite a reasonable price, like as a competitor to the 1608. But no, who the hell would buy this?!
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I wouldn't call this a console.
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On first glance, looks impressive, but then you dig in and it's just a well appointed summing mixer with 2 mic pres. No Daw control and scribble strips in this day and age???? SSL Matrix 2 has total recall, Automation, Daw Control, Scribble Strips, Digital Routing patchbay for same price so a much better deal.

But it can be fixed if you buy 2 of the new 8 channel Neve 1073 OPX Mic Pre's for around $3,500 each, plus 2 Avid S1's so for around another $10,000 you have a pretty serious setup and impressive center section. I wish there was a gap in the middle for the Avid S1's or some controller...

Maybe build a custom sterling desk with the Neve Board on one side, S1's in the center, and the Api Box 2 or 1608 on the right??
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I like it.
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I think i would prefer RND 5060 and portico 5059 with a couple of Neve OPX

Its only cool for writing “Neve 8424” in your Room A website.. i would have it turned off for the customer to see the red N and would have a 5060 next to it
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Or maybe give it to my kids to play
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I like it.
Me too.
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Neve should do better than this (my first post I was just looking at the video without reading the specs).

Even SSL got the common sense to make affordable hardware like the new budget audio interface they released.

The looptrotter console seems more appealing to me even though it lacks the automation @ a price point that actually makes sense (500 series expansion more channel expansion Etc.)

Even if this had daw integration it makes no sense to me; for that kind of dough go to eBay and get a used Carlrec if it's some kind of analog Mojo you're after.

For the people claiming this is "room renovation" just because you want value for your dollar whatever currency you happen to have in your pocket; they should consider the fact that the kids producing records streaming billions many times are working with extremely modest setups.

That kind of snobbish attitude is what got hardware synth manufacturers looking silly now that Behringer is doing what they do.

I mean now that the pluggin developers are a upping their game; hardware manufacturers should reconsider how the digital sphere is going to make their analog offerings less appealing.

I agree with the people that feel that Neve is milking and living off their reputation in an unreasonable manner.

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How should it sound in comparission to 8816?

“The 8816 uses the same transformer mixing topology as the classic 80 Series console, with two custom Carnhill transformers on the stereo mix bus output” this one has marinair instead of carnhill what would be the difference?
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brexit box...

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(...) "you can build a 1073 pre with no EQ for under £200 in parts". That's EXACTLY the point of consoles like this. Every time anyone has released a larger console the last few years, all anyone does is complain that it doesn't have something. Here's the bare minimum inside of a nice central package at a price point that bigger studios can build their own collection of preamps and EQ's around.

It would not have "killed" them to add a few thousand dollars to the console and throw preamps in there. I'm willing to bet you would be one of the first ones to come in and say "That's not really a Neve preamp" and list all the reasons why it's junk. The great thing about more modern designs like this is that it's not making you commit to paying more for things you already have. This has the potential to help network all of your outboard gear together and mix/record easier and quicker. Not everyone wants or needs 24 channels of preamps and EQ's, especially that many of the same thing.

The definition of what a console needs to be is changing quickly. I get a lot of comments about my API Box Console being overpriced junk as well. It doesn't make sense for a lot of setups, it fit mine perfectly though. I can totally see why this Neve would be appealing to a lot of people. I don't know if it's overpriced, I'm not that technically inclined and haven't seen inside of it. Price point and function wise, it seems to fill an interesting void though.
so you know what 'the market' wants and what 'void' this thingy could fill?!

could be that it's me who's off the tracks (which could easily be - and be it by age/habit) but imo (and i know quite a few more folks with a somewhat similar view on things) the quintessential piece of gear to tweak a mix is...

...the equalizer!

for any serious work, i want a ton of them right in front of me (and not somewhere crammed into a side rack). and i got a bunch of hardware efx devives i wanna send to and return signals to the desk. and i'm tracking bands, meaning more than just a single person at the time so i'm in need for a few more mic pres and filters; dynamics wouldn't hurt either (mainly exoanders in my case though). and did i mention that i mix in surround? at least i want to have the option to (mis)use a bunch of subgroups for this purpose whithout sacrificing all aux sends. and vca's for 'ganging' channels.

personally, i'm not into fader automation and don't need plugin 'control' either but i'm sure some folks could need exactly this.

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now someone pls tell me what this 'console' is other than a glorified summing box and a semi-automated switchbox at an outrageous price?!
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so you know what 'the market' wants and what 'void' this thingy could fill?!
No more than you do, I'm just stating an opinion and thoughts. I don't work in surround like you do, so I'm sure that comes with a whole other set of needs. I just want people to realize and admit that not EVERYONE works the same way they do. For instance, I hardly ever EQ while tracking. It happens from time to time, but most of my "EQ'ing" is mic choice, tweaking placement or with something like drums, some tuning. I don't want a rack or console full of EQ's.

I don't think you're off track at all, this just isn't a good product for the way you work. Doesn't mean it's overpriced junk though. This could be a great option for facilities that already have a lot of nice outboard gear and preamps but no console. It's going to complicate things in a lot of ways and make recall harder, but this is essentially what you get when you take preamps out of a console: A summing mixer. I guess you could call something like this a Summing Mixer Plus. I don't know how outrageous the price is, there's still a lot of hardware and stuff inside. It's not cheap to make something like this. It's still representative of a workflow a lot of people still prefer to work in.
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now someone pls tell me what this 'console' is other than a glorified summing box and a semi-automated switchbox at an outrageous price?!
A patchbay with recall snapshot and summing with talkback, and monitor stand
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How far do we bend over backwards to be able to say we have a Neve, an SSL or an API console. Less than 20 grand these days! Homewreckers!
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How far do we bend over backwards to be able to say we have a Neve, an SSL or an API console. Less than 20 grand these days! Homewreckers!
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