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TC Electronic Announce MASTER X HD and BRICKWALL HD plug-ins and USB Controllers
Old 17th June 2020
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TC Electronic Announce MASTER X HD and BRICKWALL HD plug-ins and USB Controllers

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TC Electronic Announce Next-Generation MASTER X HD and BRICKWALL HD plug-ins and Optional USB-Powered Desk Top Controllers

Designed and engineered in Denmark, TC Electronic’s MASTER X HD and BRICKWALL HD plug-ins are the ultimate dynamics duo combining unparalleled transparent performance with an easy-to-use interface. MASTER X HD and BRICKWALL HD are essential additions to any mixing, mastering and post-production setup and support all modern plugin standards. The optional USB-powered desktop controllers deliver a pioneering fusion of premium software and next-generation hardware-assisted workflow.

MASTER X HD NATIVE


With expansion, compression and limiting separate for each of the 3 bands, the MASTER X HD is the ultimate multiband dynamics processing plug-in. Designed for use on single sources, buses and master mixes, its pioneering combination of software and optional hardware control gives users powerful award-winning algorithms combined with the latest in dynamics technology.

Designed to make the critical mastering and mixing phase faster and easier for both professional audio engineers and home studio owners, MASTER X HD delivers studio-grade expansion, compression and limiting separate for each band. The studio-grade algorithms provide ultimate transparency while staying true to the TC Electronic legacy sound and include a built-in soft clipping feature.

Re-built from the ground up to serve modern creative needs, the MASTER X HD combines technologies from the award-winning MASTER X for Pro Tools and the legendary POWERCORE platform with TC Electronic’s latest dynamics technologies found in the Finalizer application ecosystem.

The overall processing characteristics of MASTER X HD are controlled via target curves, i.e. either flat, bass-emphasising, air-adding or the classic smiley curve. These specialised starting points gives users total and easy control via global processing styles for all bands in all algorithm blocks while reducing the number of complex parameters in a similar 3 band processor by approximately 2/3.


BRICKWALL HD NATIVE


BRICKWALL HD is a true-peak brick wall limiter plug-in like no other. Designed for use in professional and home studio mixing and mastering environments, it sports both classic transparent limiting and modern loudness-oriented workflow for outstanding and predictable results.

Designed to be an ultra-transparent master limiter, BRICKWALL HD protects audio without ever sacrificing sonic impact. Its studio-grade algorithm is built on the foundation of the original Brickwall Limiter from System 6000, BRICKWALL HD lets users increase the apparent loudness of a mix without losing audio quality.

As a supplement to the classic, transparent limiter, BRICKWALL HD sports a modern take on limiting. The loudness limiter safeguards sonics for easy delivery to streaming services such as Spotify, Apple Music, SoundCloud and Tidal. BRICKWALL HD is the ideal solution to make a lasting impression with casual listeners and audiophiles alike.

Unlike most limiters that stop at 0 DBFS, BRICKWALL HD identifies the ever-important inter-sample peaks and eliminates the risk of down-stream audio clipping. The premium ISP limiting algorithm ensures clean and predictable results every time. The adaptive content-optimised limiter profiles guarantee maximum sonic transparency.

Engineers and musicians always aim for flawless sound in everything they do, BRICKWALL HD allows users to choose between the best classic and modern limiting algorithms and add spice to taste with the built-in soft clipping curves. Specialized for use in the critical mastering phase, the soft clipping in BRICKWALL HD provides users with versatile performance and analogue character without offsetting the balance of a mix. 

MASTER X HD-DT / BRICKWALL HD-DT HARDWARE CONTROLLERS

For the ultimate in hands-on usability and improved workflow the optional USB-powered hardware controller add-on’s for MASTER X HD and BRICKWALL HD give users visual feedback for accurate signal and dynamics monitoring directly on the hardware interface. The inspiring hands-on controls provide instant easy access control to all sound-defining parameters, improve workflow and declutter your mix view as there is no need to open the plug-in to make parameter adjustments. On-the-fly mix adjustments are now as simple as touching a physical control and brings the added benefit that users can mix with their ears and not with their eyes.

BRICKWALL HD and MASTER X HD also include a wealth of custom-built signature presets developed by world-class producers and engineers, as well as complementary settings tailored by TC Electronic’s engineering team.

BRICKWALL HD and MASTER X HD are compatible with all major DAW’s (Standard VST, Audio Units and AAX-Native plug-in processing on Mac and Windows PC) and deliver full support for standard DAW automation and project recall.

With MASTER X HD AND BRICKWALL HD mastering with great algorithms from TC legacy products, has now become a part of the modern DAW workflow.

For more information:

MASTERX HD: https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categor...-HD-DT/p/P0DPS

BRICKWALL HD:
https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categor...-HD-DT/p/P0E58
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Old 17th June 2020
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Pretty interesting! I used Master X TDM plugin years ago. Very nice algorithms. If this has te same (or even improved) I'm on board. System 6000 Brickwall limiter is great, but there are already great limiters on the market, such as Nugen ISL.
Old 17th June 2020
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TC electronics let TDM MD3 plugin owners left in the dust for years. And it was pretty expensive! Will TC give us any upgrade price? I wound't hold my breath.
Old 17th June 2020
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Update from TDM

+1 . Update price for TDM users please. I don,t want to pay twice for the same plugins.
Old 17th June 2020
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Can’t find out how much the controllers are..has anyone found them for preorder?
Old 17th June 2020
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Finally i can use the Master X5 without the old firewire powercore. Any deals for powercore master x5 owners? For old times sake
Old 17th June 2020
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No price for the controllers?
Old 17th June 2020
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No intro price??
Old 17th June 2020
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USB controllers are such a fantastic idea. I hope we start to see them for synths too, Eurorack format.
Old 17th June 2020
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Want to buy. Installed a trial version, very impressive.
+ Price does not bite.
https://store.tcelectronic.com/produ...tive-plug-ins/

MASTER X HD NATIVE $199.00
https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categor...-HD-DT/p/P0DPS
BRICKWALL HD NATIVE $149.00
https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categor...-HD-DT/p/P0E58

Until today, I used Poco MD3. Mac(2013) Mojave Logic Pro X.
Old 17th June 2020
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Anyone find the controllers price I’ve been searching for ages can’t find any
Old 17th June 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M_Music View Post
Want to buy. Installed a trial version, very impressive.
+ Price does not bite.
https://store.tcelectronic.com/produ...tive-plug-ins/

MASTER X HD NATIVE $199.00
https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categor...-HD-DT/p/P0DPS
BRICKWALL HD NATIVE $149.00
https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categor...-HD-DT/p/P0E58

Until today, I used Poco MD3. Mac(2013) Mojave Logic Pro X.
There is also a bundle of both together for $279

Maybe price for USB controllers not yet announced
Old 17th June 2020
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Finally i can use the Master X5 without the old firewire powercore. Any deals for powercore master x5 owners? For old times sake
I was a firm devotee of MasterX5 on PowerCore as well. I have six PowerCore PCIe cards with Mx5 licenses sitting in various old Mac Pro towers that I can't use beyond Snow Leopard and Logic v9, and I've been hoping for a modern native version for many years. I keep those old machines frozen in time just so I can go back and use Mx5 in a pinch, although I don't do it that often.

Unfortunately this new thing is closer to a Finalizer or MasterX3, with only three bands instead of five as on MasterX5. For me, the difference between 3 and 5 bands is a big deal - I couldn't get the results I wanted from the three-band version. Having the bands split as "subs / bass / honk / clank / fizz" was a huge difference from just "low / mid / high".

Still, there was some magic about how Mx5 could put the squash on the signal without just flattening the waveform (and sound) into a square brick. It was as if there was a floating make-up gain amount that would bring quiet sections up and then instantly push loud sections down without just squaring things off, very different to more modern tools like Ozone or the zillion "mastering limiters" I've bought since PowerCore was deprecated. Looking at the waveforms of Mx5 mixes vs the same mix through Ozone or whatever is very telling - the Mx5 mixes sound louder and smoother even though the waveform still has some life left in it.

Still, I hope they will come out with a 5-band version at some point.

But I will buy this anyway and keep my fingers crossed. Thank you TC!
Old 17th June 2020
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The Master X5 Powercore plugin was not nearly MD3... by any stretch. It was the "cheap" Powercore mastering plugin.
Old 17th June 2020
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Hardware controllers for a limiter

Priceless.
Old 17th June 2020
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Unfortunately this new thing is closer to a Finalizer or MasterX3, with only three bands instead of five as on MasterX5. For me, the difference between 3 and 5 bands is a big deal -
TC!
In the excitement i missed that it can't have more than 3 bands. And from what you are describing about the sound of the 3 band version (which i've never used), i'm now less excited.

I agree on that something magic in the sound.
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In the excitement i missed that it can't have more than 3 bands. And from what you are describing about the sound of the 3 band version (which i've never used), i'm now less excited.

I agree on that something magic in the sound.
I'm also less thrilled than I would be if it were a 1:1 update of Mx5, but I bought the bundle anyway...

Even the 3-band MX was pretty good, it was just that I felt like it was easier to get things to sound the way I wanted on quiet film cues with the 5-band version, since sub booms wouldn't push the "note" portion of bass sounds out of the way as much. So I could have a solid chunk of low pitched tonal drones or low strings "chonks" with occasional sub booms hitting and nothing would sound ducked or pumped.

But I have high hopes. I won't be able to really test it out vs the old PowerCore Mx5 for a couple of days, but I will do a serious comparison and report back.
Old 17th June 2020
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I agree that the 3 band is somewhat underwhelming. I have TC MD3 but have found I can get much better results with fab filter Pro-MB for a myriad of reasons, not counting the integrated EQ, brickwall limiter and expander of the MD3.

Are they going to have an upgrade to expand to 5 bands? They never upgraded their Finalizer app as far as I'm aware.
I am glad it isn't 5 band as it is easier to hold on to my money but I will continue to watch their product line. The interface looks nice and I'm sure it sounds good (the finalizer app was easy to get good "clean" results from), but 3 bands seems a bit limiting in 2020, at least for electronica or pop.
Old 17th June 2020
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Yes, very much hoping there are some considerations for TDM or PoCo users. X5/MD3/Brickwall were NOT cheap back in the day...

Thanks!
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Old 18th June 2020
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Awesome. I've always found MasterX3 very easy to get results out of.

EDIT: I'm trying to download the free trial. Apparently I did and I installed it as well as the iLok membership but the plugin still doesn't show up in my DAW (Reason 11). Any help, fellow Slutz?

Last edited by StudiodeKadent; 18th June 2020 at 07:54 AM.. Reason: adding
Old 18th June 2020
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Hey everybody,

I've just installed the demos and compared them with my MD3 (Powercore) with same settings for crossovers, lookahead, attack, release, ratio etc. Unfortunately it's not even close regarding transparency and overall sound. There are much more pumping artefacts when pushed harder (e.g. threshold -12db).

I know I cannot directly compare Master X3 with MD3 but I was hoping the've implemented the better algorithms from md3 to the newer Master X HD.

So I will not buy this product and wait until TC decides to port the old MD3 or MD4 algorithms to native plugin land.

cheers!
Old 18th June 2020
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I remember there was something about the master X3 (or the TC finalizer) that I can’t quite duplicate. It was the opposite of transparent, but it instantly glued a loose feeling mix together. It made the mix slightly lofi, but when time was tight, like mixing a live TV show, it felt as mixing with a safety net. I still bring an old finalizer when I have to mix live to TV and I know time will be tight.

Maybe it was the phasey crossover filters? No idea, but I can’t duplicate it with something like Ozone’s multiband dynamics, McDSP ML4000, Waves C4 or Avid Pro MB. They all sound much more transparent, but none of them have this instant glue thing going on. If anybody knows why please tell me.
Old 18th June 2020
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Could anyone provide comparisons to TC 6000 Brickwall to the new Native HD.
If its the same its a absolutely no brainer.

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Old 18th June 2020
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I remember there was something about the master X3 (or the TC finalizer) that I can’t quite duplicate. It was the opposite of transparent, but it instantly glued a loose feeling mix together.
well to my ears it is the same with the MD3 - it has a sound i cannot find anywhere else. maybe, maybe DMGs Multiply can do it, this one also can get very punchy, but i just don't get the interface and love the M/S pages of the MD3.

if anybody has some presets for Multiply that does someting like MD3/MD4 please post them and i'll ask DMG for another trial.
Old 18th June 2020
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I wonder how the Brickwall HD would do vs. other good limiters like Limirless, Ozone or Pro-L2.. having a hardware remote for the final limiter could be nice
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+1. We need the controller price posted as well.

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I wonder how the Brickwall HD would do vs. other good limiters like Limirless, Ozone or Pro-L2.. having a hardware remote for the final limiter could be nice
Old 18th June 2020
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Surely there should be a crossgrade price for Poco/tdm master x3/x5 System 6000 md3 owners, in line with the native vss3 crossgrade.....

Again,surely there should be an intro price as well which is the norm for these releases like they did with the native icon plugs.....
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I wonder how the Brickwall HD would do vs. other good limiters like Limirless, Ozone or Pro-L2.. having a hardware remote for the final limiter could be nice
Tried it last night for a few minutes. Probably one of the worst sounding limiters
I've ever used, pumpy, mushy, etc. No where near the same universe as Limitless, Ozone or Fabfilter. It was like a time machine ride back to 2003.
Old 18th June 2020
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Tried it last night for a few minutes. Probably one of the worst sounding limiters
I've ever used, pumpy, mushy, etc. No where near the same universe as Limitless, Ozone or Fabfilter. It was like a time machine ride back to 2003.
Same experience here, unfortunately brickwall hd is nowhere near to ozone 9 maximizer, limitless or pro l2.
Old 18th June 2020
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Maybe it was the phasey crossover filters? No idea, but I can’t duplicate it with something like Ozone’s multiband dynamics, McDSP ML4000, Waves C4 or Avid Pro MB. They all sound much more transparent, but none of them have this instant glue thing going on. If anybody knows why please tell me.
Well, I can't exactly tell you why. However, I often look to the ML-4000's Classical preset(s) -that have the expander engaged- for 'glue' on a quick mix. Turn down the threshold, solo bands to tweak a bit, done.

IMHO, Give it a shot, it does something similar to what you describe.
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