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Old 1 week ago
  #121
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Originally Posted by Dullness View Post
I am interested in the 4k sound, could anyone record some drums through that. I would love to hear the magic sound.
I'll do this tomorrow.
Old 1 week ago
  #122
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Originally Posted by MUZIKSLUT View Post
It would have been great if the 4K was featured on the outputs as well, for printing mixes to a high quality AD.
I think they want to protect the viability of the Fusion rack (in the SSL product line) on the output signal chain even for users of the SSL 2 units.
Old 1 week ago
  #123
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Originally Posted by dmyers93 View Post
I'll do this tomorrow.
Thank you
Old 1 week ago
  #124
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Originally Posted by MUZIKSLUT View Post
It would have been great if the 4K was featured on the outputs as well, for printing mixes to a high quality AD.
Have you seen a schematic that says otherwise?

You can hear the 4k on the monitor mix.

The zero latency monitoring is the analog input being blended with computer playback.

This means with with monitor mix set to input you’re getting the 4k on the analog out.

If you’ve seen a schematic, can you link to it?
Old 1 week ago
  #125
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Originally Posted by londonengineer View Post
You should tell RME they're doing it wrong as soon as possible. My MADIface does 64 channel in/out all day and is ROCK SOLID over USB. Literally NEVER had a problem. Where does this garbage hearsay come from?!

At what lag? Is anybody besides RME doing that?
Old 1 week ago
  #126
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Hmm, I would have loved to see a more expensive, higher-quality unit to compete with the Apollos.
Old 1 week ago
  #127
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Old 1 week ago
  #128
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These seem pretty cool.
But as I mentioned before, I still wish the SSL Six mixer had a soundcard option built into it.

Last edited by nukmusic; 6 days ago at 05:34 PM..
Old 1 week ago
  #129
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Are these SSL made in Switzerland?? )



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Old 1 week ago
  #130
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Originally Posted by hiccup View Post
The specs on this thing are not great.
Very similar to the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, which is cheaper.

....interesting , if you get a mo could you post the spec comparison?
Old 1 week ago
  #131
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SCARLETT 2I2

SUPPORTED SAMPLE RATES
44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, 192kHz

MICROPHONE INPUTS
Frequency Response
20Hz - 20kHz ± 0.1dB
Dynamic Range
111dB (A-weighted)
THD+N
<0.0012%
Noise EIN
-128dBu (A-weighted)
Maximum Input Level
9dBu (at minimum gain)
Gain Range
56dB
Impedance
3kΩ
LINE INPUTS
Frequency Response
20Hz - 20kHz ± 0.1dB
Dynamic Range
110.5dB (A-weighted)
THD+N
<0.002%
Maximum Input Level
22dBu (at minimum gain)
Gain Range
56dB
Impedance
60kΩ
INSTRUMENT INPUTS
Frequency Response
20Hz - 20kHz ± 0.1dB
Dynamic Range
110dB (A-weighted)
THD+N
<0.03%
Maximum Input Level
12.5dBu (at minimum gain)
Gain Range
56dB
Impedance
1.5MΩ
LINE/MONITOR OUTPUTS
Dynamic Range (Line Outputs)
108dB
THD+N
<0.002%
Maximum Output Level (0 dBFS)
15.5dBu
Impedance
430Ω
HEADPHONE OUTPUTS
Dynamic Range
104dB (A-weighted)
THD+N
<0.002%
Maximum Output Level
7dBu
Impedance
<1Ω





SSL 2 & SSL 2+


Specifications
Audio Performance Specifications
Unless specified otherwise, default test configuration:
Sample Rate: 48kHz, Bandwidth: 20 Hz to 20 kHz
Measurement device output impedance: 40 Ω (20 Ω unbalanced)
Measurement device input impedance: 200 kΩ (100 kΩ unbalanced)
Unless otherwise quoted all figures have a tolerance of ±0.5dB or 5%
Microphone Inputs
Frequency Response ± 0.1 dB
Dynamic Range (A-Weighted) 110.5 dB
THD+N (@ 1kHz) < 0.0015 % @ -8 dBFS, < 0.005 % @ -1 dBFS
EIN (A-Weighted, 150 Ω termination) -130.5 dBu
Maximum Input Level +5.5 dBu
Gain Range 62 dB
Input Impedance 1.2 kΩ
Line Inputs
Frequency Response ± 0.05 dB
Dynamic Range (A-Weighted) 110.5 dB
THD+N (@ 1kHz) < 0.0015 % @ -8 dBFS, < 0.005 % @ -1 dBFS
Maximum Input Level +24 dBu
Gain Range 62 dB
Input Impedance 10 kΩ
Instrument Inputs
Frequency Response ± 0.05 dB
Dynamic Range (A-Weighted) 110.5 dB
THD+N (@ 1kHz) < 0.0015 % @ -8 dBFS, < 0.005 % @ -1 dBFS
Maximum Input Level +15 dBu
Gain Range 62 dB
Input Impedance 1 MΩ
Monitor Outputs (Balanced)
Frequency Response ± 0.05 dB
Dynamic Range (A-Weighted) 112 dB
THD+N (@ 1kHz) < 0.0012% @ -8 dBFS, < 0.002 % @ -1 dBFS
Maximum Output Level +12.5 dBu
Output Impedance 1 Ω
Specifications
SSL 2+ User Guide 25
Unbalanced Outputs
Frequency Response ± 0.05 dB
Dynamic Range (A-Weighted) 112 dB (1-2), 110 dB (3-4)
THD+N (@ 1kHz) < 0.0015% @ -8 dBFS, < 0.0025% @ -1 dBFS
Maximum Output Level +6.5 dBu
Output Impedance < 1 Ω
Headphone Outputs
Frequency Response ± 0.05 dB
Dynamic Range 111 dB
THD+N (@ 1kHz) < 0.0015% @ -8 dBFS, < 0.0020% @ -1 dBFS
Maximum Output Level +10 dBu
Output Impedance 10 Ω
Digital Audio
Supported Sample Rates 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 88.2 kHz, 96 kHz, 176.4 kHz, 192 kHz
Clock Source Internal
USB USB 2.0
Low-Latency Monitor Mix Input to Output: < 1ms
Roundtrip Latency at 96 kHz Windows 10, Reaper: < 4ms (Safe Mode Off)
Mac OS, Reaper: < 5.2ms
Physical
Analogue Inputs 1&2
Connectors XLR 'Combo' for Microphone/Line/Instrument on rear panel
Input Gain Control Via front panel
Microphone/Line/Instrument Switching Via front panel switches
Phantom Power Via front panel switches
Legacy 4K Analogue Enhancement Via front panel switches
Analogue Outputs
Connectors 1/4" (6.35 mm) TRS jacks, RCA sockets on rear panel
Stereo Headphone Outputs 1/4" (6.35 mm) TRS jacks on rear panel
Outputs 1L / 2R Level Control Via front panel
Outputs 3 & 4 Level Control None
Monitor Mix Input - USB Blend Via front panel
Monitor Mix - Stereo Input Via front panel
Headphones Level Control Via front panel
Headphones B 3&4 Source Selection Via front panel
Specifications
26 SSL 2+ User Guide
Rear Panel Miscellaneous
USB 1 x USB 2.0, 'C' Type Connector
MIDI 2 x 5-pin DIN Sockets
Kensington Security Slot 1 x K-Slot
Front Panel LEDs
Input Metering Per Channel - 3 x green, 1 x amber, 1 x red
Legacy 4K Analogue Enhancement Per Channel - 1 x red
USB Power 1 x green
Weight & Dimensions
Width x Depth x Height 234mm x 157mm x 70mm (including knob heights)
Weight 900g
Box Dimensions 265mm x 198 x 104mm
Boxed Weight 1.20kg
Old 1 week ago
  #132
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Originally Posted by fastconcept View Post
I hope Peter (Gabriel) is willing to join this thread and will share more in-depth information about his new two little babies
He cashed out of SSL over two years ago...
Old 1 week ago
  #133
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Originally Posted by Sleazy_Rider View Post
SCARLETT 2I2

SUPPORTED SAMPLE RATES
44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, 192kHz

MICROPHONE INPUTS
Frequency Response
20Hz - 20kHz ± 0.1dB
Dynamic Range
111dB (A-weighted)
THD+N
<0.0012%
Noise EIN
-128dBu (A-weighted)
Maximum Input Level
9dBu (at minimum gain)
Gain Range
..........

Legacy 4K Analogue Enhancement Per Channel - 1 x red
USB Power 1 x green
Weight & Dimensions
Width x Depth x Height 234mm x 157mm x 70mm (including knob heights)
Weight 900g
Box Dimensions 265mm x 198 x 104mm
Boxed Weight 1.20kg

thank you very much


(just to clarify i have the SSL SIX and love it....so no disrespect meant to SSL here)

Last edited by ghostman; 1 week ago at 11:53 AM.. Reason: clarification
Old 1 week ago
  #134
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Originally Posted by Whitecat View Post
He cashed out of SSL over two years ago...
Wow...he did a good job then. Didn't know that.

Old 6 days ago
  #135
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Peter remains an investor in Audiotonix (who bought SSL), albeit with significantly less clout than he did when he outright owned SSL.
Old 6 days ago
  #136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DigitalDrugLord View Post
On a quick test of the unit my opinion:



2) The inputs 1/2 are designed for multitrack recording, not 2ch mastering level recording... I wouldn't recommend trying to loop-back the output into the inputs on a 2ch mix (to try to get the 4K processing on a whole mix) - the unit will record back from its outputs but the 2ch mix print quality is not going to replace a $6k mastering A/D converter - the inputs on the SSL 2 unit is not a mastering grade A/D but is a multitrack recording grade. The 4K circuits sound like what SSL is selling it as, a SSL 4000 "mojo" but this can only be applied to the input signals (as I've been able to see in operation so far).

Can you try running a whole mix trough it and letting us a/b the signals? I hoping it can do the 4k "bend" thing
Old 6 days ago
  #137
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Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Peter remains an investor in Audiotonix (who bought SSL), albeit with significantly less clout than he did when he outright owned SSL.
Good to see you here, Jim!

Thank you and SSL for the SiX Just phenomenal. I bought one from the first run. Total game changer.

I just want to clarify:

if the 2+ is plugged into a power source, can the line/preamps be used with 4k as a standalone device?

It seems as if the MONITOR MIX were all the way left it would simply pass all the analog goodness to the headphone and monitor outs.

Thanks Jim
Old 6 days ago
  #138
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogerface View Post
Good to see you here, Jim!

Thank you and SSL for the SiX Just phenomenal. I bought one from the first run. Total game changer.

I just want to clarify:

if the 2+ is plugged into a power source, can the line/preamps be used with 4k as a standalone device?

It seems as if the MONITOR MIX were all the way left it would simply pass all the analog goodness to the headphone and monitor outs.

Thanks Jim
Yes. Plug in an iPhone charger or similar and it will work standalone
Old 6 days ago
  #139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brb View Post
Can you try running a whole mix trough it and letting us a/b the signals? I hoping it can do the 4k "bend" thing
It isn't really designed for this.

IMHO the "4K Bend" is much more about gain structure through the various VCAs to the output bus than it is a magic sticking plaster that can be applied anywhere in the chain.
Old 6 days ago
  #140
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Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Yes. Plug in an iPhone charger or similar and it will work standalone
Hi Jim — can the interface be used with the new ipad pros (USB-C)?

Thanks
Old 6 days ago
  #141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Peter remains an investor in Audiotonix (who bought SSL), albeit with significantly less clout than he did when he outright owned SSL.
Nice to know :-) Thanks for sharing and congrats with this new range of wonderful audio interfaces, Jim!

Old 6 days ago
  #142
Gear Head
I did some recordings this morning to demonstrate the 4K mode on my SSL2+.

All recordings were done using only the SSL2+ and a Shure PG27 condenser microphone. No processing was applied to these tracks outside of enabling and disabling the 4K mode.

For the drums I used a Slingerland 1965 Blue Flame Modern Jazz kit with Ludwig rocker piccolo snare.

The acoustic guitar I recorded was a Martin DRSGT.

Sizes:
Kick: 14x20
Snare: 3x13
Tom: 8x12

Overheads were recorded over the shoulder of the drummer. The single hit recording will be 3 hits of the drum without 4K followed by 3 hits of the drum with 4K enabled. The beat recordings will be 8 bars of a beat without 4K then 8 bars of the same beat with 4K enabled.

The kick was recorded about 5 inches from the center of the front of the drum. 3 hits without 4K followed by 3 hits with 4K enabled.

The snare was recorded about 3 inches from the drum head with the diaphragm of the microphone pointed at the center of the batter head. 3 hits without 4K followed by 3 hits with 4K enabled.

The acoustic guitar was recorded 3-4 inches from the neck joint. The first chord progression is without 4K. The second is with 4K enabled.

Finally since several people asked about this on a full mix, I connected the inputs to the outputs and recorded a full mix I completed with the 4K mode enabled. I will attach a clip without 4K for reference.

The artist featured in the full mix is titled 'Another Night' by 'Monsters Like Me'. You can find his music on Spotify and Youtube. I do a lot of work for him and he's a great artist so definitely check him out if you have the time.

I hope this helps some of you out in making a decision to buy this or at least sparks some interesting discussion! Personally, I think that this effect is the kind that will make more an impact when used on several tracks recorded throughout the mix. Individually, the effect is rather subtle.

-Damon
Attached Files

SSL2+ Kick.wav (3.84 MB, 3187 views)

SSL2+ Snare.wav (6.19 MB, 3090 views)

SSL2+ Tom.wav (6.01 MB, 3043 views)

SSL2+ Overhead Single Hits.wav (14.91 MB, 3023 views)

SSL2+ Overhead Beats.wav (11.13 MB, 3048 views)

SSL2+ Reference Mix.wav (12.94 MB, 3198 views)

SSL2+ 4K Mix.wav (12.71 MB, 3281 views)

SSL2+ Acoustic Guitar.wav (15.94 MB, 3059 views)


Last edited by dmyers93; 6 days ago at 05:25 PM..
Old 6 days ago
  #143
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Originally Posted by Brb View Post
Can you try running a whole mix trough it and letting us a/b the signals? I hoping it can do the 4k "bend" thing
I tried it yesterday and its a notable effect on the mix in total but its nothing close to the fidelity you'd get with a SSL Fusion on a 2ch mix...

For a sub $300 unit, I don't want to tarnish the piece by testing it as a mastering grade signal processor for a 2ch mix which obviously its not designed to be.

The SSL Fusion is the piece that is the transparent mastering grade processor that is designed for the "bend" on the whole mix.

The SSL 2 is focused on offering a great utility for recording live performances for multi-track recording/mix, which the 4K circuit on the recorded signal adds a familiar SSL 'flavor". It's an extremely transparent, low noise USB audio interface and headphone monitor. The output fidelity is mastering A/D converter ready, which for a sub $300 box is unheard of.

I'll be using it in place of my Apollo units which I never really liked the D/A much personally.

Kudos again to SSL.
Old 6 days ago
  #144
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Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
It isn't really designed for this.

IMHO the "4K Bend" is much more about gain structure through the various VCAs to the output bus than it is a magic sticking plaster that can be applied anywhere in the chain.
Thanks for chiming in, I just responded in the same perspective.
Old 6 days ago
  #145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmyers93 View Post
I did some recordings this morning to demonstrate the 4K mode on my SSL2+.

All recordings were done using only the SSL2+ and a Shure PG27 condenser microphone. No processing was applied to these tracks outside of enabling and disabling the 4K mode.

For the drums I used a Slingerland 1965 Blue Flame Modern Jazz kit with Ludwig rocker piccolo snare.

The acoustic guitar I recorded was a Martin DRSGT.

Sizes:
Kick: 14x20
Snare: 3x13
Tom: 8x12

Overheads were recorded over the shoulder of the drummer. The single hit recording will be 3 hits of the drum without 4K followed by 3 hits of the drum with 4K enabled. The beat recordings will be 8 bars of a beat without 4K then 8 bars of the same beat with 4K enabled.

The kick was recorded about 5 inches from the center of the front of the drum. 3 hits without 4K followed by 3 hits with 4K enabled.

The snare was recorded about 3 inches from the drum head with the diaphragm of the microphone pointed at the center of the batter head. 3 hits without 4K followed by 3 hits with 4K enabled.

The acoustic guitar was recorded 3-4 inches from the neck joint. The first chord progression is without 4K. The second is with 4K enabled.

Finally since several people asked about this on a full mix, I connected the inputs to the outputs and recorded a full mix I completed with the 4K mode enabled. I will attach a clip without 4K for reference.

The artist featured in the full mix is titled 'Another Night' by 'Monsters Like Me'. You can find his music on Spotify and Youtube. I do a lot of work for him and he's a great artist so definitely check him out if you have the time.

I hope this helps some of you out in making a decision to buy this or at least sparks some interesting discussion! Personally, I think that this effect is the kind that will make more an impact when used on several tracks recorded throughout the mix. Individually, the effect is rather subtle.

-Damon
Thanks for doing this. I like what the 4k is doing on most of these examples. It doesn't look like the acoustic samples were uploaded.
Old 6 days ago
  #146
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Originally Posted by Boogerface View Post
Good to see you here, Jim!

Thank you and SSL for the SiX Just phenomenal.

Thanks Jim
+1
Old 6 days ago
  #147
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my USB apogee has been having all sorts of issues due to the T2 chip problems on the new macs, and I need an interface that is lightning so it will work properly with mac. Do these have lightning connectors?
Old 6 days ago
  #148
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Originally Posted by BrentA View Post
Thanks for doing this. I like what the 4k is doing on most of these examples. It doesn't look like the acoustic samples were uploaded.
Thanks for the response. I didn't realize I missed it. I just edited the post and added the acoustic file if you wanted to take a listen to it.
Old 6 days ago
  #149
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I am considering the SSL 2+ for summing signals from daw with the SSL Six and to record that back to the daw .
I´d record and mix using the Six and the SSL Native plugins to keep it all SSL just to see what I can do with all of this stuff.
Surely the 2+ quality is suitable for this?
I understand it´s no Fusion, but a good enough quality A/D and interface for The Six surely? That was one thing that some reviews complained about, that the Six isn´t an interface or a digital output... I got excited seeing te 2/2+ come out and thought this would be exactly the next step for SSL Six: the computer connectivity
Old 6 days ago
  #150
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Originally Posted by dmyers93;14456[INDENT
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Thank you for posting these sounds, I think it sound pretty good. I ordered one.
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