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Nebula: is it any good? Equalizer Plugins
Old 18th April 2014
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Some of the default file names installed have changed since 1.3.6xx. So dll file renaming (back to your legacy name), and keeping your legacy xmls, may be needed after the upgrade for backwards compatibility with projects. This is discussed in more detail on the AA forum but as usual in only semi-clear explanations and across multiple threads.

Backuping your dll and xml files before an upgrade is always good idea.
Old 18th April 2014
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Hi,

log in at the website, go to 'dashboard', download Nebula or the update version, install, ready, I had no problems with libraries (I used the update versions I think for three times last months).
Worth it for the performance etc. This is just my experience.

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Some of the default file names installed have changed since 1.3.6xx. So dll file renaming (back to your legacy name), and keeping your legacy xmls, may be needed after the upgrade for backwards compatibility with projects.

Thanks guys. I would certainly like to lower the CPU hit. I may try to upgrade (fingers crossed).

This is discussed in more detail on the AA forum but as usual in only semi-clear explanations and across multiple threads.


YES, this is where my trepidation comes from, it seems to me that unless you are a fervent reader of Neb forum posts, AND have a very clear understanding of what it all means, how it relates, AND really know how to navigate the arcane aspects of the Nebula GUI, then it can be very confusing. For me at least.
Thanks again.
Old 19th April 2014
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Originally Posted by apartment dog View Post
Hi,

log in at the website, go to 'dashboard', download Nebula or the update version, install, ready
Hmmm, Ok I went to the website, went to my "dashboard" for the first time. However, I do not see any indication of a new version to download there.......what am I missing please? Or, is this just more Nebula wackiness, and I need to do something wacky to access it?
PS I tried clicking on the Nebula 3 Pro I already have, and got a window saying I need a password. What password is this referring to? Mine?
Also, it still did not indicate it was an upgraded version.
Any explanation of how to navigate this maze would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
Or, maybe I should just continue to gravitate towards Slate and other products that I can actually understand........
Old 19th April 2014
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I know it's a clusterf*ck, this is seriously one of those things they need to fix ASAP

when prompted for a special password, it appears on the top left corner, above the frame. Just copypaste that to the field, enter and then navigate to the latest upgrade.

I also sometimes get "server busy" or some **** like that when I try to enter actual download area, then it just suddenly works when I try to re-enter a few times. AA, seriously..
Old 19th April 2014
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maybe an animated, pointy arrow to the password :|
Old 19th April 2014
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I know it's a clusterf*ck, this is seriously one of those things they need to fix ASAP

when prompted for a special password, it appears on the top left corner, above the frame. Just copypaste that to the field, enter and then navigate to the latest upgrade.

I also sometimes get "server busy" or some **** like that when I try to enter actual download area, then it just suddenly works when I try to re-enter a few times. AA, seriously..
Thank you so much.
Old 19th April 2014
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, your advice was good, but, hahahahahahaha, even after entering the "password", it still takes me to an error page!
Wow, this is the most screwed up customer experience ever! I may just give up on Nebula entirely! What a creativity-killer! What a time-waster! What a PITA!!!!
Old 19th April 2014
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, your advice was good, but, hahahahahahaha, even after entering the "password", it still takes me to an error page!
Wow, this is the most screwed up customer experience ever! I may just give up on Nebula entirely! What a creativity-killer! What a time-waster! What a PITA!!!!
They certainly still have some work to do considering the pages, downloading, authorization etc. I think it's rather embarrassing for them.

I personally ALMOST bought an semi-powerful GPU solely for Nebula, only to learn that the CUDA support works only with the reverbs and even that is so-so. It's pretty dodgy that they advertise stuff like that if it doesn't work properly.

They're definitely not perfect. I've been able to download all the files from the site in the end 'tho, but it's a disaster IMO.

EDIT: BTW, just try to re-enter a few times, usually works for me.
Old 19th April 2014
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updated (I think) it tells me it's V1.3.668... on the site it says 3.7 ?
resurrected(32 lives) both neb & reverb ,but reverb is not showing ?
also i have 2 versions in my dashboard

feeling
thank the lord I'm only messing with my backup system on my MBP
Old 19th April 2014
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Originally Posted by ultra171 View Post
They certainly still have some work to do considering the pages, downloading, authorization etc. I think it's rather embarrassing for them.

I personally ALMOST bought an semi-powerful GPU solely for Nebula, only to learn that the CUDA support works only with the reverbs and even that is so-so. It's pretty dodgy that they advertise stuff like that if it doesn't work properly.

They're definitely not perfect. I've been able to download all the files from the site in the end 'tho, but it's a disaster IMO.

EDIT: BTW, just try to re-enter a few times, usually works for me.
Thanks again, you are kind and generous to try and help me, and I really appreciate it.
Yes, I've tried about ten times, still no luck.
I was a fairly early adopter of Nebula, and have praised the sound of it to anyone who asked. Amazing invention, and they deserve a lot of credit for what they've achieved. I also have invested a lot of time, and considerable expense, in the product.
However, after all this time, it is still a very frustrating and strange product, for me at least. And it is difficult to work with something that causes such frustration, and even distrust. Not emotions that are conducive to being in the creative mindset, IMHO. I have been a working, professional audio engineer for over forty years, and in all that time I have never been made to feel so stupid and inept. For some older folks like me, computers are not a first, or even second, language. Sure, I use them every day, but I am not a programmer, nor do I want to be.
Thankfully, other plug-ins are catching up, and lately nebula has lost a few A/B comparisons against other products, to my ear, on my system. Other products that are much, much more pleasant and enjoyable to use. For me.
It is too bad though, since these guys had a true world-beater product in terms of sonics, and if they had taken the customer's experience into account, I believe they could have had massive acceptance, which the product deserved.
But now, I don't know...... I mean, if the website experience is so negative, as it is for me, then it breeds a distrust, a sense of frustration and unease, that makes me averse to wanting to even use the product. Not to mention the strange GUI, and all the gobbledegook tech-talk that seems to go with it.
I'm sure for many people, this is not an issue. The developers for sure seem to be amused and even irritated at the inability of non-computer-techs like me to easily follow along with their way of doing things. Of course, I can't read their minds, maybe they do not feel this way. But the whole thing seems more like a kid's secret society of some kind, where you need a code ring to learn the secrets. I would have thought after several years things would have improved, but for me, not so much. And the more time I spend on their forum, reading about all the tweaks and tricks, the more I begin to distrust that the "stock" settings I use are really giving me the best sound possible. Who knows? The whole thing still seems to be a work in progress, after all these years. Not good.
At any rate, you sir are a gentleman and a scholar, and I thank you for your kindness. I apologize for the rant. Guess I had to vent the frustration, which is in a way another indicator that nebula is not suiting me right now. Best of luck to you in all your endeavors, and thank you for trying to help me.
Old 19th April 2014
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Originally Posted by gussyg2007 View Post
updated (I think) it tells me it's V1.3.668... on the site it says 3.7 ?
resurrected(32 lives) both neb & reverb ,but reverb is not showing ?
also i have 2 versions in my dashboard

feeling
thank the lord I'm only messing with my backup system on my MBP
The other one is simply the older upgrade. Simply download the latest version and make sure you're installing EXACTLY the same path as previous times.

Can't help you much otherwise since you're on Mac..

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(stuff)
NP, glad to be assistance..

I can imagine how you feel. Some things that come to mind

1) The "stock" settings are perfectly fine. It's pretty marginal what the TIMED settings add.
2) There's a definite language barrier, the guys are Italian..
3) If the site STILL isn't working, seriously message those guys. Seems like they're becoming increasingly helpful. It's your god given right to use the software you've paid for.

Personally, I couldn't care less for any elitism and really haven't noticed such with the Nebula crowd, they're mostly really cool (and helpful) people IMO. One thing is true 'tho, they (we?) can be quite dismissive about other plugins because Nebula just triumphs sonically. Almost every time. I feel like mixing with toys after using Nebula and always go back to it.

The results I've heard from Slate and UAD are REALLY good 'tho, but then again, they cost ten times more.. if I had a few grands to drop, I'd probably pull the trigger on UAD.
Old 19th April 2014
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The other one is simply the older upgrade.
uploaded on the same day !
Old 19th April 2014
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Thanks again, you are kind and generous to try and help me, and I really appreciate it.
Yes, I've tried about ten times, still no luck.
I was a fairly early adopter of Nebula, and have praised the sound of it to anyone who asked. Amazing invention, and they deserve a lot of credit for what they've achieved. I also have invested a lot of time, and considerable expense, in the product.
However, after all this time, it is still a very frustrating and strange product, for me at least. And it is difficult to work with something that causes such frustration, and even distrust. Not emotions that are conducive to being in the creative mindset, IMHO. I have been a working, professional audio engineer for over forty years, and in all that time I have never been made to feel so stupid and inept. For some older folks like me, computers are not a first, or even second, language. Sure, I use them every day, but I am not a programmer, nor do I want to be.
Thankfully, other plug-ins are catching up, and lately nebula has lost a few A/B comparisons against other products, to my ear, on my system. Other products that are much, much more pleasant and enjoyable to use. For me.
It is too bad though, since these guys had a true world-beater product in terms of sonics, and if they had taken the customer's experience into account, I believe they could have had massive acceptance, which the product deserved.
But now, I don't know...... I mean, if the website experience is so negative, as it is for me, then it breeds a distrust, a sense of frustration and unease, that makes me averse to wanting to even use the product. Not to mention the strange GUI, and all the gobbledegook tech-talk that seems to go with it.
I'm sure for many people, this is not an issue. The developers for sure seem to be amused and even irritated at the inability of non-computer-techs like me to easily follow along with their way of doing things. Of course, I can't read their minds, maybe they do not feel this way. But the whole thing seems more like a kid's secret society of some kind, where you need a code ring to learn the secrets. I would have thought after several years things would have improved, but for me, not so much. And the more time I spend on their forum, reading about all the tweaks and tricks, the more I begin to distrust that the "stock" settings I use are really giving me the best sound possible. Who knows? The whole thing still seems to be a work in progress, after all these years. Not good.
At any rate, you sir are a gentleman and a scholar, and I thank you for your kindness. I apologize for the rant. Guess I had to vent the frustration, which is in a way another indicator that nebula is not suiting me right now. Best of luck to you in all your endeavors, and thank you for trying to help me.
Running the demo of IK Multimedia's new EQ73/81. This is good enough to replace AlexB's 73, and eliminate the massive workflow and processing obstacle. IK doesn't sound exactly the same (maybe more "vintagey" sounding, and obviously more saturation) but it FINALLY has removed the 2D and "congested" sound ALL other EQ emus have had.

Heavily recommended to begin your exodus from Nebula.
Old 19th April 2014
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Heavily recommended to begin your exodus from Nebula.
quite the opposite for me ..looking 4ward to neb4 still not convinced by any algo eq so far
Old 19th April 2014
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Personally, I couldn't care less for any elitism and really haven't noticed such with the Nebula crowd, they're mostly really cool (and helpful) people IMO.
I agree 100% with this, did not mean to imply any elitism, as you say, everyone tries to be helpful, obviously a very dedicated and intelligent user base. As you yourself exemplify. Thank you.
Old 19th April 2014
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Has anybody been using their Acqua plugins much? If so, thoughts?

Most of them solve the workflow issues.



Acqua Plugins Overview

I'm tried a couple of the available demos and have been pretty impressed, but there isn't a demo of most of them.

Stradipad for example seems good at adding some 'analogness' and warmth to ITB pads and strings.
Old 19th April 2014
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Has anybody been using their Acqua plugins much? If so, thoughts?

Most of them solve the workflow issues.
Not for Mac users, unless I am mistaken.
Old 19th April 2014
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Not for Mac users, unless I am mistaken.
no your not
Old 20th April 2014
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I don't understand, why doesn't people like AlexB simply make everything as Acqua? Would probably bring in tons of customers..

I'm sure there's some reason for this. I've tinkered so much with the Nebula that it doesn't really affect my workflow anymore. I have all the usual programs (EQ bands i.e.) saved as quick FX chains in Reaper, it's almost just as fast as dropping an algo EQ on a track.

TBH, I've been REALLY impressed with the UAD stuff I've heard, seems that the "nonlinear" behavior is pretty similar to Nebula. I'm actually drooling at it now, but the expansions are SO much more expensive than Nebula and dropping 300$ on a plugin..
Old 20th April 2014
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I don't understand, why doesn't people like AlexB simply make everything as Acqua? Would probably bring in tons of customers..

I'm sure there's some reason for this.
He probably doesn't write code, so needs coders to program the plugins based on his impulse responses.

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I've tinkered so much with the Nebula that it doesn't really affect my workflow anymore. I have all the usual programs (EQ bands i.e.) saved as quick FX chains in Reaper, it's almost just as fast as dropping an algo EQ on a track.
Likewise, I use Nebula setups to make instantly accessible versions of my favourites.
Old 20th April 2014
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I started using blue cat's patchwork to house my different EQ bands.
Old 20th April 2014
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Keygen alert

Important Message - 20 April 2014 - Acustica Audio News

"There is a "crack" of Acustica software circulating. The "keygen" is faulty and not safe for your system. The generated aut is partially incorrect and is detected by acqua plugins. Due to memory leaks created at particular datetimes you could suffer heavy data damages.

Please be aware that the use is very dangerous and illegal!

No consequential damages can be sought against Acustica Audio!"
Old 20th April 2014
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Music IS subjective.
The quality of gear is not.
That's a quoteworthy line!

Like Van Morrison quote:
"Music is spiritual. The music business is not."
Old 20th April 2014
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A time bomb that actually deletes or damages data could lead Acoustica open for damage claims even if they say none can be bought. But would advise people to stay clear of any such dodgy programs.
Old 20th April 2014
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yeah acusticas line on this is interesting...they are going hard with this approach...
Old 20th April 2014
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ask your attorney if you'd have a case.

he'll be more than glad to charge you
Old 20th April 2014
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A time bomb that actually deletes or damages data could lead Acoustica open for damage claims even if they say none can be bought. But would advise people to stay clear of any such dodgy programs.
No one said anything about an intentional time-bomb, goofball. What is happening is when the plugin tries to do what it's supposed to do and instead encounters a false key, unpredictable things happen that are caused by the plugin not being used properly. Acustica has not (and would never) purposely code a time-bomb into software, that IS dangerous. So go re-read the warning and stop over-reacting and being all doomsday-ish. Here is is again:

"There is a "crack" of Acustica software circulating. The "keygen" is faulty and not safe for your system. The generated aut is partially incorrect and is detected by acqua plugins. Due to memory leaks created at particular datetimes you could suffer heavy data damages.
Please be aware that the use is very dangerous and illegal!
No consequential damages can be sought against Acustica Audio!"

No software developer can predict and then prevent what every (or any) crack will do to their software. If you illegally retro-fit an automobile with non-manufacturer parts and then have your engine explode from the work you did, no auto manufacturer will pay you for damages. That is a silly presumption.
Acustica can not be blamed or sued for someone's stupidity.
Old 20th April 2014
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tres cher
Old 21st April 2014
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did that mean something?
Old 21st April 2014
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This is going downhill...

"Due to memory leaks created at particular datetimes you could suffer heavy data damages."

If this means unpredictable damage to an in-memory data structure(s) running in the Nebula environment and the program crashes then I have a thought and comment about that. If it is intended to indicate that a memory leak can occur that disrupts the OS and can cause damage to the OS and fry the entire machine and "data" then I have a different thought and comment.

...awaiting more details before further comment...
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