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Messe 2014: Toontrack announces EZdrummer 2, (Available May 6th) Virtual Instrument Plugins
Old 21st March 2014
  #61
It's purely a guess, but I doubt you'll ever be able to use Superior packs in EZdrummer.
Old 21st March 2014
  #62
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It's purely a guess, but I doubt you'll ever be able to use Superior packs in EZdrummer.
I figure as much with all the different channels and such. I do wonder whether it makes sense to just wait on a SD3 update rather than pay for EZ2 and then SD3. Looking at the demonstration vid, I would rather use EZ2 than SD2.
Old 21st March 2014
  #63
EZ2 definitely has it's advantages.
Also, Toontrack were quoted as stating there is no Superior 3 update in the pipeline.
Old 22nd March 2014
  #64
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From what I have seen so far I think EZD2 looks great. I'll be upgrading for sure!

Graham
Old 22nd March 2014
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Aside from the ability to use mix drums from other kits (and that may be a big change for some people) I don't see how this update changes writing workflow for me. What am I missing? I read that FAQ thread on the toontrack forum, is there a more in depth information somewhere about EZ Drummer 2's new capabilities?

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From what I have seen so far I think EZD2 looks great. I'll be upgrading for sure!

Graham
Old 22nd March 2014
  #66
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Originally Posted by *$%($*(@!! View Post
Aside from the ability to use mix drums from other kits (and that may be a big change for some people) I don't see how this update changes writing workflow for me. What am I missing? I read that FAQ thread on the toontrack forum, is there a more in depth information somewhere about EZ Drummer 2's new capabilities?
Have a look at the video posted in this thread. Some neat new features and options. Seems great for quickly putting ideas together.

If you prefer to have even more control and options than what EZD2 appears to have on offer....then of course you may not be impressed.

Graham
Old 22nd March 2014
  #67
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Best part of the update is that it seems handclaps and tambourine can be used with every kit.
Old 22nd March 2014
  #68
I think it's more like percussion, not just claps and tambourine. I could be wrong.
One of the biggest updates to EZdrummer seems to be an extensively featured groove editor and song builder. The video just mentioned goes into this in detail.
I don't know anything much about the basic sounds, but it's an all new library.
Old 23rd March 2014
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Audiofanzine.com review:
Toontrack EZdrummer 2 Review : NextGen Virtual Drums - Audiofanzine

Quote:

Say what you will about my enthusiasm, but from my
point of view as a songwriter, this new EZdrummer
version is a real game-changer that strikes a vicious
blow to all competitors, regardless of their name or
price. It's very simple: For me, they are the most
interesting virtual drums that have come out ever
since the first BFD did, ten years ago. And even
though I have BFD 1, Eco, Addictive Drums, Native
Instruments drums, Superior, and Jamstix, I must admit
that I haven't even touched them ever since I had the
chance to work with EZdrummer 2. It's not a matter of
sound - Superior and BFD offer much more detailed
libraries than the ones included in EZdrummer 2
(although those of the latter have nothing to be
ashamed of, far from it, actually) - it's a matter of
usability, simplicity and gaining time when looking
for the right groove, fill, etc. Time gained to the
benefit of more creative tasks, obviously. And that's
what's most important for me, personally.

At the end of the day, when it comes to making music,
the best tool is the one that allows you to translate
the ideas in your head into audible results as fast
and easily as possible. And within this context, Tap 2
Find and the other smart features of Toontrack's
software really hit the nail on the head.


37-min presentation:
Old 23rd March 2014
  #70
Ugh - post #53 ^^

keep up.
Old 23rd March 2014
  #71
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Having never used EZD, I have a question is it possible to separate the tracks and route directly from EZ to your DAW

i.e. kick snare hats rides etc. to different tracks in the DAW for separate processing? thanks Kev
Old 23rd March 2014
  #72
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Having never used EZD, I have a question is it possible to separate the tracks and route directly from EZ to your DAW

i.e. kick snare hats rides etc. to different tracks in the DAW for separate processing? thanks Kev
yes very easy 1 or two clicks
Old 23rd March 2014
  #73
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yes very easy 1 or two clicks
Hey thanks I could not find that, in the info on the web sight.
Old 23rd March 2014
  #74
In EZD1 it's just 8 channels, not sure about the new version 2.
Old 23rd March 2014
  #75
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Ah I see, missed that, thanks. The tap to find looks interesting. I'm always on the lookout for things that can make finding grooves more streamlined and intuitive and integrated. Logic Pro X drummer is helpful in some respects, and I when Jamstix for osx finally gets released I'll try that as well.

One thing that's always been missing for me with EZ drummer and sd2 is a way of keeping track of where the grooves came from in the library. When I go back to a project I often have no idea where I got the grooves from and have to hunt around, just another thing to take you out of the workflow... One workaround is to name the midi regions in the daw (logic pro x for me) but I always forget to do that in the heat of battle. Addcitive Drums has it's favorite pane, which lets you save grooves which is helpful for when you come back later....


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Originally Posted by Grahamdwc View Post
Have a look at the video posted in this thread. Some neat new features and options. Seems great for quickly putting ideas together.

If you prefer to have even more control and options than what EZD2 appears to have on offer....then of course you may not be impressed.

Graham
Old 23rd March 2014
  #76
Quote:
Originally Posted by skira View Post
Audiofanzine.com review:
Toontrack EZdrummer 2 Review : NextGen Virtual Drums - Audiofanzine

Quote:

Say what you will about my enthusiasm, but from my
point of view as a songwriter, this new EZdrummer
version is a real game-changer that strikes a vicious
blow to all competitors, regardless of their name or
price. It's very simple: For me, they are the most
interesting virtual drums that have come out ever
since the first BFD did, ten years ago. And even
though I have BFD 1, Eco, Addictive Drums, Native
Instruments drums, Superior, and Jamstix, I must admit
that I haven't even touched them ever since I had the
chance to work with EZdrummer 2. It's not a matter of
sound - Superior and BFD offer much more detailed
libraries than the ones included in EZdrummer 2
(although those of the latter have nothing to be
ashamed of, far from it, actually) - it's a matter of
usability, simplicity and gaining time when looking
for the right groove, fill, etc. Time gained to the
benefit of more creative tasks, obviously. And that's
what's most important for me, personally.

At the end of the day, when it comes to making music,
the best tool is the one that allows you to translate
the ideas in your head into audible results as fast
and easily as possible. And within this context, Tap 2
Find and the other smart features of Toontrack's
software really hit the nail on the head.


37-min presentation:
Now that's impressive! So many wow moments for me in the demo. EZdrummer 2 will be a hit.
Old 24th March 2014
  #77
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Now that's impressive! So many wow moments for me in the demo. EZdrummer 2 will be a hit.
i feel the same, this is first time Ive said wow and really been amazed by software. so intuitive
Old 25th March 2014
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Pretty awesome!
Old 26th March 2014
  #79
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Took another look at the Tap to Find, seems like a great idea! Looking forward to this.

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Pretty awesome!
Old 26th March 2014
  #80
Really tired of this phrase "game changer". In my opinion very few things actually fit this description but certainly not upgrades.
Old 26th March 2014
  #81
I should add though that I use canned drums for compositional purposes quite often and I dare say for certain styles they are even useful for final recordings but overall, nothing "beats" a drummer. Nonetheless I may purchase this program though I seriously doubt it's going to "change my game".
Old 26th March 2014
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16 bit samples ?
Old 28th March 2014
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Originally Posted by *$%($*(@!! View Post
<SNIP>
One thing that's always been missing for me with EZ drummer and sd2 is a way of keeping track of where the grooves came from in the library. When I go back to a project I often have no idea where I got the grooves from and have to hunt around, just another thing to take you out of the workflow... One workaround is to name the midi regions in the daw (logic pro x for me) but I always forget to do that in the heat of battle. Addcitive Drums has it's favorite pane, which lets you save grooves which is helpful for when you come back later....
You won't have this problem anymore.
Old 28th March 2014
  #84
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You won't have this problem anymore.
Good I lost about half an hour of my life working on an old track yesterday looking for the original groove used!
Old 28th March 2014
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Old 28th March 2014
  #86
Still on XP so won't be able to upgrade.

Shame.
Old 29th March 2014
  #87
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Originally Posted by Tesla Coil View Post
Thanks for sharing.

I found the Superior 2/3 versus EZ2 stuff very interesting.

To follow this explanation to the end i ask myself where is the upgrade price from S2 to EZ2?

I will not pay the full price as an existing S2 user.

Old 29th March 2014
  #88
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There will probably never be a crossgrade from Superior to EZ, as there's never been for the current one. They are 2 separate products.

Most likely we will see a new version of Superior that has these features. They probably put them in EZ first because more people probably own it, since it's more affordable.

The other possibility is to wait for Black Friday and get EZ. The last few years they've put in on sale for about $29.
Old 29th March 2014
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i ask myself where is the upgrade price from S2 to EZ2?
Just wait for SD3 within 12 months, or you'll be upgrading twice.
Old 29th March 2014
  #90
Again, Toontrack have officially stated there are no S3 plans in the pipeline.
Maybe in 12 months, I have no idea, but I wouldn't count on an upgrade sooner than that.
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