curious why my thread about returning to pt was moved to the moan zone and the apple doesn't care about logic users was not? i don't think either of them should be moved, but i think my thread is less moan-ey.

The criteria is if you're being a whiney puss. So this thread should also be moved to The Moan Zone

I usually leave threads alone for a while to see how things turn out.

The Apple thread has gotten interesting, so it can stay for now...