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DAW migration, Where From, Where To
View Poll Results: Indicate Which DAW Crossgrade you did / will do
PT HD ----> Cubase SX/Nuendo
11 Votes - 14.29%
PT LE ----> Cubase SX/Nuendo
16 Votes - 20.78%
Cubase SX/ Nuendo ----> PT HD
6 Votes - 7.79%
Cubase SX/ Nuendo ----> PT LE
3 Votes - 3.90%
PT HD ----> PT LE
3 Votes - 3.90%
PT LE ----> PT HD
11 Votes - 14.29%
PT HD ----> Native (specify)
5 Votes - 6.49%
PT LE ----> Other Native (specify)
7 Votes - 9.09%
Native (specify) ----> PT HD
8 Votes - 10.39%
Other Native (specify) ----> PT LE
7 Votes - 9.09%
Voters: 77. You may not vote on this poll

Old 19th May 2006
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DAW migration, Where From, Where To

Did you do a DAW switch in recent past or are plenning a switch in ner Future??

Tell us you move!!

(Please do not start a "mine VS yours" War!!
Old 19th May 2006
  #2
Once again -- no option for me.

I'm staying where I am. But neither of the DAW softwares I use are on your list. Even though one of them apparently has a million users.
Old 20th May 2006
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Old 20th May 2006
  #4
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No Logic Pro ? Wow it's the world of Steinberg heh
Old 20th May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by H-Rezz
No Logic Pro ? Wow it's the world of Steinberg heh
I think Digi And Steiny are doing the "numbers"
I Might be wrong....
Old 20th May 2006
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you are VERY wrong

about every sound-designer, movie-score composer, beat programmer, lounge-artist, or any other modern genre, dance, elctronic music etc, uses LOGIC

A lot of them use Logic as a frontend with ProTools Hardware ...
Old 20th May 2006
  #7
I am thinking about samplitude at the moment because of the cool fade-in options and other stuff that is "diffrent" than in Cubase/Nuendo.

we will see.. no protools for me.
Old 20th May 2006
  #8
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDM
you are VERY wrong

about every sound-designer, movie-score composer, beat programmer, lounge-artist, or any other modern genre, dance, elctronic music etc, uses LOGIC

A lot of them use Logic as a frontend with ProTools Hardware ...
That's a mighty big statement.

And I daresay it's NOT supported by the numbers. (But good luck actually GETTING the numbers.)



Not to say Logic hasn't become a big deal under Apple's ownership. According to its afficianadi, it's got a lot of powerful features that are approached very differently in many cases from other DAW softwares. And that, alone, makes it a really interesting and potentially influential product.

But to say -- as you did -- that: "about every sound-designer, movie-score composer, beat programmer, lounge-artist, or any other modern genre, dance, elctronic music etc, uses LOGIC" is a wild-ass stretch that is simply NOT true. Not even CLOSE to true.
Old 20th May 2006
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ok - it's an exaggerated statement --

still, it is a mighty application used by many .. Isn't it ?
Old 21st May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andredb
I think Digi And Steiny are doing the "numbers"
I Might be wrong....
Thats strange , i don't know anybody that uses Cubase or Nuendo, literary! This is not to take away from the people that use Cubase or Nuendo but clearly from your poll you live in the world of Steinberg !

From what i know Digi and Logic are doing the numbers and often at the same time as a lot of producers use Logic as the front end for P.Tools , likewise they also use DP another program quite popular especially in the U.S. heh
Old 21st May 2006
  #11
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Well, until there is an all in 1 answer I have to use mulitples.

Nuendo for music composition, midi.

Pro Tools for mixing.

ProTools for Post only at this time.

Nuendo has quite a few leaps to do before it is post ready IMO.

LEX
Old 21st May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LEX
Well, until there is an all in 1 answer I have to use mulitples.

Nuendo for music composition, midi.

Pro Tools for mixing.

ProTools for Post only at this time.

Nuendo has quite a few leaps to do before it is post ready IMO.

LEX

Sorry, should have been more specific, I'm yalking music stuff, not post production
Old 21st May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by H-Rezz
Thats strange , i don't know anybody that uses Cubase or Nuendo, literary! This is not to take away from the people that use Cubase or Nuendo but clearly from your poll you live in the world of Steinberg !

From what i know Digi and Logic are doing the numbers and often at the same time as a lot of producers use Logic as the front end for P.Tools , likewise they also use DP another program quite popular especially in the U.S. heh
Thiss could be country related, ie here in Italy Cubase rules while Samplitude and Sonare are almost unknown, Logic has a large fanbase too
Old 21st May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andredb
Thiss could be country related, ie here in Italy Cubase rules while Samplitude and Sonare are almost unknown, Logic has a large fanbase too
Ciao Andredb,

Possibly , i also do not know anybody who uses Samplitude or Sonar either , every producer working professionally that i have worked with or met in the last 5-6 years from the Danish to Swedish to English mob to some U.S. guys have used Logic Pro ! Or Logic interfaced with Pro Tools , where they go back and forth between the two .

Maybe that is why i was surprised just to see Steinberg and P.Tools

Either way i am not migrating concerning your poll , if anything maybe selling P.Tools and just staying with native Logic Pro , instead of interfacing it with P.tools like i have been , not sure if you have this option
Old 21st May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDM
ok - it's an exaggerated statement --

still, it is a mighty application used by many .. Isn't it ?
Definitely.

The big three for electronic music production are almost certainly Logic, Cubase and Abelton Live. I use Logic (have done since version 2), and pretty much 100% of my peers do. Some use Abelton as well, but there really isn't that many choices if you're doing heavy duty MIDI work (by MIDI I also mean softsynth/sampler programming).
Old 21st May 2006
  #16
Digital Performer

I cannot believe DP is not on this list!
Old 21st May 2006
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The options are extremely limited, aren't they? Oh well.


If you are looking for numbers about who uses what, here's a poll that closed last month.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showt...daw+do+you+use


PT and Steinberg are really close on GS. I don't know about Euro electronic music forums...

No knock on Logic, it's a wonderful app.
Old 21st May 2006
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were is Digital Performer?
not much of a poll
no more and never again will their be PT for me.
Old 21st May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clueless
I cannot believe DP is not on this list!

Soory but only 10 option allowed!!!

Anyway, "Others Native include DP"
Old 21st May 2006
  #20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyko/Acoustics
The options are extremely limited, aren't they? Oh well.


If you are looking for numbers about who uses what, here's a poll that closed last month.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showt...daw+do+you+use


PT and Steinberg are really close on GS. I don't know about Euro electronic music forums...

No knock on Logic, it's a wonderful app.
A poll of GS BB forumites is not necessarily representative of who is really using what, where, in the real world.

In the several years I've been hanging out here I've found an ever-deepening well of faddishness, a willful ignorance of technical issues, and an extraordinary lack of intellectual rigor among many -- but certainly not all -- of the current GS crop.

Really, what "typical slutz" use is of only passing curiosity to me, since I feel any indorsement from the "typical" GS member will, with increasing likelihood, be based in a lack of specific knowledge as well as a lack of understanding of crucial fundamentals -- and a surplus of faddish "buzz concepts."

But it's a fun place to make sure that most self-described "engineers" still listen to insipid, cookie-cutter pop and rock.
Old 21st May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theblue1
A poll of GS BB forumites is not necessarily representative of who is really using what, where, in the real world.

In the several years I've been hanging out here I've found an ever-deepening well of faddishness, a willful ignorance of technical issues, and an extraordinary lack of intellectual rigor among many -- but certainly not all -- of the current GS crop.

Really, what "typical slutz" use is of only passing curiosity to me, since I feel any indorsement from the "typical" GS member will, with increasing likelihood, be based in a lack of specific knowledge as well as a lack of understanding of crucial fundamentals -- and a surplus of faddish "buzz concepts."

But it's a fun place to make sure that most self-described "engineers" still listen to insipid, cookie-cutter pop and rock.
Thanks for your input.

Knocking the music other people listen to is not cool, anywhere. Should we all listen to Arriaga and Zappa?

Sure...ignorance abounds. One of the purposes of the site is to dispel that.

I suppose you were just venting.
Old 21st May 2006
  #22
You're probably right that my comments are gratuitously mean-spirited about the music. I guess I was hoping that -- by NOT pegging my comments to a specific genre or band -- that I could keep my scorn generalized... but...

What is to one listener insipid/cookie-cutter pabulum can be -- to another -- deathless art.

No question about it.

My apologies to all of you who love insipid, cookie cutter pop and rock. heh


But, seriously: Mea culpa.

If you can get enjoyment out of it -- it's good.
Old 21st May 2006
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I've come to accept that people's musical taste is based on the makeup of their personality, intelligence and emotion.


Most people have no choice of what appeals to them. We might as well oppose large breasts on porn stars, or sugar in candy.


This is an old topic though, isn't it? There's probably no resolution to this question.



Come to think of it, what's the point of this poll? Steinberg market research?
Old 22nd May 2006
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I moved from Nuendo to Pro Tools HD/LE. I used Nuendo when I was recording locally, and switched to Pro Tools when I started recording bigger acts. I haven't looked back.

I have never met or worked with anybody who uses Logic or Digital Performer.
Old 22nd May 2006
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I think DAWs are like .. different strokes for different folks .. kinda thing ...

U.S. = more DP

rest of the world = more Logic

protools = (used to be ) the pro standard

cubase simply sucks ( sorry just kidding - i wouldnt know, it changed so much by now ! cubase VST 5 sucked bigtime i remember that though - I migrated to logic and went aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh yes !!!!!!!! eversince I just like to piss on PC's & Cubase but now that all seems to do all the same things as logic does ..

nuendo seems a classy engineering program for very serious people
Old 22nd May 2006
  #26
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I jumped around quite a bit over the last two years... I went from PT HD to PT LE, then Cubase/ Nuendo, then finally settled with Logic Pro.
Old 22nd May 2006
  #27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyko/Acoustics
I've come to accept that people's musical taste is based on the makeup of their personality, intelligence and emotion.


Most people have no choice of what appeals to them. We might as well oppose large breasts on porn stars, or sugar in candy.


This is an old topic though, isn't it? There's probably no resolution to this question.



Come to think of it, what's the point of this poll? Steinberg market research?
I'm DEFINITELY against large breasts on porn stars.

heh

I grew up before every girl thought she had do have large breasts and before their parents thought a boob job was a great idea for a coming-of-age or grad present.

When I accidentally flip through the horrid Showtime channels on my cable (I have to take that tier just to get "free" Turner Classic Movies) in a mood where I wouldn't be adverse to seeing an attractive woman or two with, say, something less than a bernoose on, and I stumble across one of those sim-sex single-X movies they show, it's just like YAGGH!

Those women don't look like women to me.

Don't get me wrong, over the years I have, indeed, had a few girlfriends with large breasts. But that's just the thing. I know what the real thing looks like. And the stuff you see in mainstream porn is just SO fake and, from my p.o.v., just so wrong... and really UNsexy.

Then again... porn is all subjective, too, I guess.

____________

Anyhow, I was in a really crabby mood this a.m. when I posted that first bit and I'm glad to get out of this having softened what I was saying and apologized a bit, too.

And I want to hasten to add that I was not trying to set myself up as someone who knows much of anything. I'm here to learn like the rest of us.
Old 22nd May 2006
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i dig your last post man - it's cool & honest

as for the boobjob that seems to be a very American thing, like Digital Performer, Rock and HipHop...
Old 22nd May 2006
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Yeah, it's cool man!



Fake breasts are kinda odd looking, I will admit. Esp. when they wrinkle...




I think I want to start a thread about people's favourite DAW features now.


(I apologize for the non-sequitur)
Old 22nd May 2006
  #30
Yeah... don't get me wrong, one of the sweetest girls in the world, the long time girlfriend of a buddy had augmentation surgery and I'd hate like hell to hurt her or any other girl's feelings. Especially since they may have had the surgery as a way of dealing with some sort of perceived disadvantage. And, hell, there are probably plenty of guys who would be glad if their girls got augmentation. But no one should ever do it on my account. (Of course, THAT is increasingly a moot issue. heh)

BTW, at least one of my ex-girlfriends and several friends had breast reduction surgery.

I was only, like 22, when my friend said she was going to get that a reduction when she could afford it and -- I'll admit it -- I was pretty skeptical. I'd never heard of such a thing. I mean, I actually preferred smaller breasts on girls, but I was still young and squirrelly enough that I thought I got some kind of macho status from other dudes because of her (well, stupidly enough, I kind of did... we were all kind of lame, I guess).

ANYhow... let's just keep my little tirade in here. Any woman tough enough to hang around at GS is probably secure enough to not be shaken by some aging, cranky anti-augmentation crackpot. heh But I would not want to make a young woman feel bad about what is ultimately a pretty trivial thing.

(And, of course, I think reconstructive surgery is a wonderful thing for cancer survivors and others.)
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