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Old 16th May 2006
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MacBooks are HERE!



All Intel Core Duo

5 X faster than the previous iBooks

512 MB DDR2 RAM

13.3 Wide Screen display

1280X800 resolution glossy display

stock 60GB HD 5400 RPM upgradable to 120GB

Mini DVI out

1.83 and 2.0 GHz processors available

From $1049.00 ( education ) with combo drive
$1199.00 with 2.0 GHz Core Duo and SuperDrive

Black option available for a premium
$1399.00

All MacBook models feature: a full-size keyboard, Scrolling Trackpad, AirPort Extreme wireless networking (802.11b/g), Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, Gigabit Ethernet, two USB 2.0 ports, one FireWire port, and optical digital and analog audio in/out.

The only downer is the shared VRAM
Old 16th May 2006
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i gotta say, that black macbook non-pro is frickin' slick lookin'!
old PB G3 owners will like that one!
Old 16th May 2006
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Apple has deleted the 1.83 GHz MacBook Pro and lowered the prices.

They also now offer either mat or glossy display on the MBPs
Old 16th May 2006
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Looks yummy. (but will wait for rev. B before even thinking about it)
Old 16th May 2006
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Can you run Windows XP Pro on those as if it where any 'normal' PC laptop?

Regards,

Roger
Old 16th May 2006
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I can't see why not.

With Core Duo, you should be able to boot Mac OS X, Linux or Windows

As long as you run Boot Camp or Parallels.

I'm sure these will also be fully compatible with OS X Leopard.
Old 16th May 2006
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What are the differences between the MB and MBPro besides the smaller screen and slightly less HD and RAM?

That price looks very good on the 2gHz Macbook...
Old 16th May 2006
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waiting on the intel towers... should be here in august. Muwahahaaa!!!! YES!!!
Old 16th May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FFTT
I can't see why not.

With Core Duo, you should be able to boot Mac OS X, Linux or Windows

As long as you run Boot Camp or Parallels.

I'm sure these will also be fully compatible with OS X Leopard.
OK, so how are these models competing with high Toshiba's, Dell's, Sony's etc.? Also, you can run XP Pro on it and so all business software that is normally used in that type of environment, SQL Server, Microsoft Business Editions etc.? And, you will be able to run Cubase and loads of VST on that too, using XP?

Regards,

Roger
Old 16th May 2006
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Quote:
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Can you run Windows XP Pro on those as if it where any 'normal' PC laptop?

Regards,

Roger
Yes, but there could be driver issues. I would wait until they update bootcamp to include drivers known to work with this new model. The existing ones might not work right and it could suck to find out the hard way.
Old 16th May 2006
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i dont know what the difference between these and the macbooks are, but all i know is my 1.66 ghz mac mini intel duo smokes the **** out of my 3.2 ghz p4 dell.
not only that

i think my mac mini might even be as fast as my 2.5ghz dual g5


either way im gonna start havin to collect these macs for the style cause damn, that black macbook looks sooo sexy!!!

buying it next week
Old 17th May 2006
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yo i think that's a little foul of apple to release the macbook pro and then so soon afterwards lower the price after a bunch of people just bought one. that was a little too soon for my taste. as much as i love my macbook, i think that was a little shady.

that was really really fast
Old 17th May 2006
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I have a 1.25 G4 Powerbook which is getting a bit long in the tooth, was thinking about a new MacBook Pro but now I am re-considering. Wouldn't one of these new iBook not be a pretty good machine for most of my audio stuff (composing in Reason, Live then mix in PT w/002R)? Other than PCI slots and DV output differences, I mean, really, seems to me like the iBook might win a few audio fans this time 'round, no? I figure one of those and maybe the 20" iMac for the home studio for about the same price as a tower and nice screen.
Old 17th May 2006
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aside from the hd size and speed, the new macbooks should do audio great. my mcbookpro is crazy with logic (crazy good)
Old 17th May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TyRip
What are the differences between the MB and MBPro besides the smaller screen and slightly less HD and RAM?.....
at the very least - less video ram, worse video card, and I bet the screen looks worse. It may spec out similarly - but I know my 17" PB had a MUCH better look than my sweeties ibook... if that is any indication.
Old 17th May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzy655
yo i think that's a little foul of apple to release the macbook pro and then so soon afterwards lower the price after a bunch of people just bought one. that was a little too soon for my taste. as much as i love my macbook, i think that was a little shady.

that was really really fast
I hate to tell you.... that is just how it goes with computers, and technology.

sorry, man.

sukkks tho.

Old 17th May 2006
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The MacBook is not meant to be a full desktop replacement portable although many users would be fine with it.

The only downside posted so far, is about the MacBooks 64 MB shared VRAM,
but for audio and most portable needs it's no big deal.

The big NEW plus to the MacBooks is mini DVI out and the new audio in and out jacks.

For $1199 (education) it's hard to beat the new MacBooks in both price, features, connectivity and versatility.

If you need better video performance in a portable, go for a 17" MacBook Pro

However, the smart combination would be a well equipped MacBook for real portable needs and an iMac Core Duo or New Tower as your primary workstation, once the Merom and Conroe chips are available later this summer or early fall.

The major problem with higher end video cards in a portable is heat.
Up to 100C is reported to be the acceptable heat range of the 128 and 256 MB video cards. They also eat power and therefore battery life.

The new "glossy" display on the MacBook is supposed to be dramatically improved over the previous iBook display, although many users still prefer matte displays.

The matte or glossy display is now optional on the Mac Book Pro's
Old 17th May 2006
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i hate to wonder what the price of my 1.33, 1.2 ram 12 in. powerbook is now..

these things look like they could kick its ass
Old 17th May 2006
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can the macbook run dual monitors like the old powermacs...you know so you can utilize both your laptop screen and an external screen at the same time?
Old 18th May 2006
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Dual monitors: Yes, it will run the built-in screen and an external monitor as a dual-display setup.

Also, it will run an external display with the lid closed.

At least, from what I understand.

It sounds like a great machine, with much more in common with the MBP than the outgoing iBooks it replaces. Personally, I'm a big fan of the durability of the plastic casing over the Aluminium MBPs. Only catch for us lot right now is lack of Universal apps/plug-ins (I can't do anything until the NI stuff goes Universal).

But it'll come together in time.
Old 18th May 2006
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Played with a black MacBook today, some thoughts:
- The glossy screen is really rich in color, amazing contrast and pleasant to look at
- The black is a matte black, reminds me of IBM Thinkpads when they were awesome or those old school black Powerbooks
- Dual Core 2 ghz MacIntel means super fast

I can't wait to see the white one.
Old 18th May 2006
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A new article over at Macworld shows that the new MacBook is now the easiest Apple
laptop to upgrade in their history.

http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macw...ideo/index.php

"They both take place in the MacBook’s battery bay. One of them is the installation of RAM, which is a new procedure that involves two little lever arms. The other is the MacBook’s hard drive, which actually resides in the far left corner of the battery bay! As a result, the MacBook is probably the most easily upgradeable Mac laptop ever."
Old 18th May 2006
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Benchmarks!!
Any logic users with the new Macbook?
Please post some performance benchmarks.
Old 18th May 2006
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cool, thanks but what about audio?
My guess is it'll be similar to the Macbook Pro, although I wonder how the IG card will affect performance in our world...

One interesting note is that the hd is easily replaced, hello 7200 rpm!
Old 19th May 2006
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Quote:
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One interesting note is that the hd is easily replaced, hello 7200 rpm!
thats the key
Old 19th May 2006
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Does it have

Built in Webcam?
A 'tighter' feeling keyboard?
Nice speakers?

(the small sliver G4 Powerbook 'felt' better to type on and always sounded better than my Ibook G4)
Old 19th May 2006
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It has built in webcam, can't comment on the keyboard action yet...
Old 19th May 2006
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will be sufficent for audio and recording work! Really!

These are core duos , a nice mobile setup for logic pro 7 thumbsup

but im still on 5.51 with dell hmmm
Old 19th May 2006
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if you're using Logic 7 Pro, the new ibooks, er, macbooks are a godsend.

for about a grand you get a monster that blows my €3,000 powerbook out of the water.

just not sure about the screen and the retro keyboard. hope they modify both things in revison b, just around christmas. ( would miss the lighted kb though)

i'm also wondering how much my powerbook is worth now


at least it's good to know you can finally get a competent mac for pennies, i kept dfreaming for ages before i was able to afford, or justify the cost, of a new mac.
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