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Quickest way to transfer entire Logic session? Virtual Instrument Plugins
Old 10th September 2011
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Quickest way to transfer entire Logic session?

My buddy & I are trying to establish an efficient workflow since we don't live near each other and each have different skillsets.

All I really need is a quick way for him to transfer his midi files to me, but after much trying and troubleshooting - there doesn't seem to be an efficient way to do this in Logic. So as a last resort, I'm wondering what the quickest way is to just transfer the entire session from his computer to mine. Any suggestions?
Old 10th September 2011
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I'd suggest using Gobbler... it's an online backup and collaboration tool. It's really quick and what's cool is, once files are uploaded to the cloud, if you have to re-transfer or send a file back with minor changes, you don't have to re-upload anything. It's been working great for me so far.

http://www.gobbler.com/i/YFZCB0
Old 10th September 2011
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Originally Posted by Blake Eiseman View Post
I'd suggest using Gobbler... it's an online backup and collaboration tool. It's really quick and what's cool is, once files are uploaded to the cloud, if you have to re-transfer or send a file back with minor changes, you don't have to re-upload anything. It's been working great for me so far.

http://www.gobbler.com/i/YFZCB0
Old 10th September 2011
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Thanks for the suggestion. I don't believe this would resolve my actual issue though. Let me elaborate:

My friend creates the song in Logic using stock plugins, then transfers the midi files to me so I can load them up into my 3rd party plugs ie Spectrasonics, SSD, Ivory. In order to do this, he exports about 40-50 midi tracks to me. The problem is that he has to do it one by one which is time consuming. The bigger problem is that when I get the tracks, Logic does not place the midi files in the right places. We practiced doing this last night and for the time he spent labeling all the tracks according to instrument, exporting one by one, transferring the files, me downloading & comping into Logic, then trying to figure out what goes where plus trying to figure out what sounds he was really trying to get for each track, etc...

To me it would be infinitely easier if there was just a way to transfer the entire session or do some kind of a mass export of midi files which would somehow retain plugin and/or volume/pan settings. For what me and him are doing, we would never need to transfer audio files

If gobbler would help, I'm all about it - but it seems that it is geared towards those that would be working w/audio files
Old 10th September 2011
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OK - so I think my issue is 90% solved! I found these instructions on Apple's website and it actually works great, but one glitch. Whenever I import the midi file into Logic, it automatically chooses EXS Grand Piano on every single midi track. I tried w/2 separate projects on export and also 2 separate projects on import (including one completely new-from-scratch project) and it still loads up w/50 instances of the Grand Piano

For anyone else coming across this problem, I'll copy the solution below and hopefully find the answer to the remaining issue soon:



Saving Standard MIDI Files
If you want to play a Logic MIDI project on another sequencer, you can do so by saving it as a Standard MIDI file. Consult the manual of the other sequencer to determine what Standard MIDI file formats it supports.

Due to limitations of the Standard MIDI file format (in comparison to the Logic project format), you need to prepare your Logic project for export by following these steps:

To prepare all MIDI regions for a Standard MIDI file export
Select all MIDI regions by choosing Edit > Select All (or using the Select All key command, default assignment: Command-A).

Normalize all playback parameters by choosing MIDI > Region Parameters > Normalize Region Parameters in the Arrange area (or use the Normalize key command, default assignment: Control-N).

Convert all playback quantization by choosing MIDI > Region Parameters > Apply Quantization Settings Destructively (or use the corresponding key command, default assignment: Control-Q).

Convert all aliases into real copies by choosing MIDI > Alias > Convert to a Region Copy (or using the Convert Alias to a Region Copy key command).

Convert all loops into real copies by choosing Region > Loops > Convert to Real Copies (or using the Convert Loops to Real Copies key command, default assignment: K).

Convert all MIDI regions on each track into a continuous MIDI region by choosing Region > Merge > Regions per Tracks (or use the Merge Regions per Tracks key command).

Note: Because Standard MIDI file type 0 format files can only save one MIDI region, you must also merge all MIDI regions into one if you want to export in file format 0. You can do this by choosing Region > Merge > Regions.

Insert all instrument MIDI settings as events by choosing MIDI > Insert Instrument MIDI settings as Events.

To save MIDI regions as a Standard MIDI file
Select all of the required MIDI regions.

Choose File > Export > Selection as MIDI File (or use the Export Selection as MIDI File key command, default assignment: Option-Command-E).

Choose the destination directory, enter a name, then click Save. The selected MIDI regions are saved as a Format 1 MIDI file.
Old 10th September 2011
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Why not just email the logic song?
Or am I missing something?
I have done this when working on stuff with other people
Old 10th September 2011
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Originally Posted by kevbrowne View Post
Why not just email the logic song?
Or am I missing something?
I have done this when working on stuff with other people
Exactly. If it is going form one Logic rig to another there is no advantage to a standard MIDI file. And btw, of course his friend does not need to export the MIDI tracks one by one anyway. That is simply lack of knowledge.
Old 10th September 2011
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yeah, i would just email the whole logic song, if it is just midi it can't be that big, i dont know why you would want to go into a midifile export hell-loop....
Old 11th September 2011
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Look into dropbox

Myself and a friend also use logic, I simply take the WHOLE SESSION file, compress it into a zip, throw it in our shared dropbox folder, soon as it upload, he pulls it off, and has my whole session.

Learn about making slave sessions and stuff to keep your work together top notch.
Old 11th September 2011
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Thanks for the advice fellas. This is the first time I've tried collaborating w/someone like this and I have a feeling I'll be doing it quite a bit more in the future. I'm gonna try these suggestions tonight and I'll report back
Old 11th September 2011
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As already suggested, try Gobbler. It is designed for DAW session transfers and storage. The program scan your selected drive, and backs up the projects on that drive. You select the project that you would like to send (or collaborate), and Gobbler creates a link that you email to your friend. He does what he needs to do and then repeats the process. From this point forward, Gobble automatically updates the session files each time you make changes.
Old 11th September 2011
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Alright - took the advice and synced the whole Logic file w/Dropbox - this works perfectly - thx fellas! I guess I didn't think it could be that easy, but it works. For what I'm doing now, this is perfect. If we get a little more involved , I may check out that Gobbler program everyone is suggesting
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