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Old 15th December 2005
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Question Wave File/Broadcast Wave File

Does anybody know what the difference is between these two. I've been tracking on a *.CPR and the old audio files come up as BWFs, while the new ones are just WFs.


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Old 15th December 2005
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essentially broadcast wavs are wavs with timecode data stamped into the header.

http://www.sr.se/utveckling/tu/bwf/

I think that there's an option in cubase to select what format you want to record in.

si
Old 15th December 2005
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Broadcast waves have the equivalent of a tape box legend available in the header. They are the only international standard professional audio file format and most future professional audio applications can be expected to work with them.
Old 15th December 2005
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Thanks guys. I wondering a couple o' things at this point:

1 What format should I default to?
2 Is there a way of converting one format to the other?


Thanks,


Ian
Old 15th December 2005
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you can convert one to the other with something like wavelab (for the PC). They are essentially the same file - the BW has extra info in the header.

what should you record in ? - stick to normal wav for the time being - as some software won't import BW (invalid header ?)

Before everybody jumps in and says BW is better...it is..and will probably become the standard - but it aint yet.

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Old 16th December 2005
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Originally Posted by IGWright
Thanks guys. I wondering a couple o' things at this point:

1 What format should I default to?
2 Is there a way of converting one format to the other?


Thanks,


Ian
No conversion is necessary in the BWF->WAV direction (other than perhaps changing the file name extension) since WAV files by definition can have unrecognized chunks of data in them that can be skipped (so anything should be able to read BWFs that thinks they're WAVs.)

There's not a lot of usefulness in going the other way unless you wanted to stick fake timecode in the front of the file, which is trivial to do (seems like somebody should have a utility to do it.)
Old 13th April 2009
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Broadcast Wave or Wave for Tracking?

So reviving this thread as I've just been thinking about whether I shoudl be tracking in Cubase as Broadcast Wave or just Wave?

Are there problems with using Broadcast Wave still? (the original post was a few years old).

When Exporting I assume it doesn' really matter if you use either though, right?

but would it be a kind of backup to say exporting as OMF (for compatibility?).

If you move a file during mixing etc. will the Broadcast MetaData timecode etc be auto updated?

I just don't know If i should set Broadcast to Default.
Old 15th April 2009
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Wave or Broadcast Wave for tracking?

So no one knows what one should use by default for tracking?
Old 15th April 2009
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If you have an option for BWF, select that. If you don't, then select .wav.
I use Samplitude, which records as .wav, but it's really BWF.
Also, since this thread first got published, some many DAWs now support recording in wav format. DP has added wav. Logic will allow you to record in wav.
Many times I will record in Logic (or I will get a PT session). Samplitude reads the time chunks and drops the files at the correct postion in the timeline.
Old 17th April 2009
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+1 for BWF: Having just got a session from another engineer out of Cubase with regions that don't start at zero and no timecode --- use the one that stamps the timecode.
Old 17th April 2009
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BWF makes exchanging files with other systems and platforms a breeze!


I've noticed though in Cubase that once a file is recorded as regular wav and you change to BWF the original files don't get the timestamp. Or am I missing something?



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Old 28th November 2012
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Seven years since the thread started (applause)...

Need a DAW that can read & export Broadcast Wave (BWAV/BWF) files.

Currently use Wave Agent to convert standard Wave files (from Reason DAW) but need BWF for workflow & compatibility with other studios. Will be working with video too.

Any advice or suggestion for DAW's will be much appreciated - thank you.
Old 29th November 2012
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Need a DAW that can read & export Broadcast Wave (BWAV/BWF) files.
Won't most all of them do that? Look in the 'save as' menu.
Old 29th November 2012
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Won't most all of them do that? Look in the 'save as' menu.
No, not all DAW's read and export BWF files; I contacted Propellerhead (re: Reason) but they say BWF is "an advanced, specific feature" and they may or may not introduce it in the future.

I'm looking for recommendations on a BWF-capable DAW: I'm aware of some e.g. Pro Tools (not sure if all versions offer BWF?), Samplitude Pro X, Nuendo, etc. - and I'm looking for recommendations from users with experience of BWF. Are there snags or limitations with a specific DAW, etc.

Thanks for your input though Bill
Old 29th November 2012
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Nuendo/Cubase do it.


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Old 29th November 2012
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No, not all DAW's read and export BWF files;...

Thanks for your input though Bill
That is surprising to me. I would have thought that they all did. Broadcast wave files are pretty much all I have used for many years. (I use Samplitude/Sequoia; and before that, SAWStudio.)
Old 29th November 2012
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BWF is the only international professional audio file standard. Support is demanded by many purchase orders. Pro Tools has only ever written BWF files. Lack of it would be a deal-killer for most professional applications.
Old 29th November 2012
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That is surprising to me. I would have thought that they all did. Broadcast wave files are pretty much all I have used for many years. (I use Samplitude/Sequoia; and before that, SAWStudio.)
+1

I'm surprised there's a DAW that doesn't support BWF's
Old 3rd January 2013
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Hi,

just a short BWAV question.

I'm doing audio for a live recording. The video guys could generate a timecode,
which I would record in audio with the Alesis HD24.

BAck in the studio I would chase ProTools from that TC track and mix the
concert. I record the mixes in that protools session.

Do these recorded mixes have the time stamp from the PT session with is
the same as the live recording ? And when I export these mixes to BWAV could
the cutter import it in their avid and have it at the right position ?

thanks....
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