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Old 7th December 2009
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Protools MIX digilink cable connectors and pinouts

Hi. I've been buying some old TDM Mix systems and I need many many many cables which are pretty expensive here in my area (Brazil). I've heard some people makes his own cables, and I'm looking for pinout and the model of the connectors. Maybe a link for buying the connectors? I'm pretty good at soldering!

I would hate to pay more for the cables than for the old Mix cards, interfaces and G4s... That's it. So...

Does anyone have this kind of info?

It seems digidesign used hard to get connectors and proprietary crazy pinouts, am I right?

Thanks!
Old 7th December 2009
  #2
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no replies... Well, maybe I've posted on wrong forum???

Where should I post something like that?
Old 10th December 2009
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Maybe some one at the DUC forums might be able to tell you.
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Dont expect a whole lot though.

And yeah, those cables arent cheap.
Old 10th December 2009
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Wink

Shhh.....Don't tell anyone......It's an industry secret

Taiwan HPDB 26-pin D-sub Connector. Sijhih City Trading Company, Manufacturer, Exporter
Old 10th December 2009
  #5
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Quote:
Shhh.....Don't tell anyone......It's an industry secret

Taiwan HPDB 26-pin D-sub Connector. Sijhih City Trading Company, Manufacturer, Exporter
That connector is for HD, MIX used a different interface cable/connector.

For MIX, d24, and PTIII PCI systems you need a DB60 connector and a SCSI-2 50 pin connector to make these cables. DB60's were used on cisco products, you can buy cisco cables cheap on ebay and cut them in half, then add SCSI connectors on the other end.

Here's a thread with info on pinouts, etc.

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Old 23rd December 2009
  #6
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That is so nice. All the info I needed are there in this thread. Thanks, guys!!!
Old 23rd December 2009
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So, based on that info on that thread, and carrefully checking the single digilink connections against the Y cable connections, I've put together a chart for making a custom dual HD50 to single DB60 digilink Y cable, like I've seen in some systems n here. This way, you only need one cable where otherwise you would use three cables. It makes it for a really cheap alternative. Instead of buying three expensive cables, you can DIY a simple and cheap cable for less than 30 for all parts needed. Here it is (by the way, it's NOT TESTED, NOT VERYFIED - use at your own risk!!!):


custom dual HD50 to single DB60 digilink Y cable:

HD50 n1 to DB60:

1 to 16
2 to 17
3 to 14
4 to nc
5 to 10
6 to nc
7 to 6
8 to 4
9 to 2
10 to nc
11 to 30
12 to nc
13 to nc
14 to nc
15 to nc
16 to 60
17 to 58
18 to 56
19 to 54
20 to nc
21 to 50
22 to nc
23 to 46
24 to 20
25 to 26
26 to 15
27 to 44
28 to 13
29 to nc
30 to 9
31 to nc
32 to 5
33 to 3
34 to 1
35 to nc
36 to 31
37 to nc
38 to nc
39 to nc
40 to nc
41 to 59
42 to 57
43 to 55
44 to 53
45 to nc
46 to 49
47 to nc
48 to 45
49 to 41
50 to 35


HD50 n2 to DB60:

1 to 19
2 to 17
3 to 14
4 to nc
5 to 8
6 to nc
7 to 28
8 to 27
9 to 22
10 to nc
11 to 11
12 to nc
13 to nc
14 to nc
15 to nc
16 to 21
17 to 29
18 to 18
19 to 23
20 to nc
21 to 52
22 to nc
23 to 48
24 to 24
25 to 25
26 to 42
27 to 44
28 to 13
29 to nc
30 to 7
31 to nc
32 to 33
33 to 34
34 to 39
35 to nc
36 to 12
37 to nc
38 to nc
39 to nc
40 to nc
41 to 40
42 to 52
43 to 43
44 to 38
45 to nc
46 to 51
47 to nc
48 to 47
49 to 37
50 to 36

That's it, it's now available for anyone that needs to DIY some of these. I'll check with a fellow that had one custom digilink cable done locally (he payed 200 US) and see if he lets me DMM his cable to check the pinouts. Then I'll make some cables myself and see how they go in my rig. It's really nice, as I have many old TDM rigs in the studios and the school I'm putting toghether. We would have to pay thousands of dollars just on cables to get all our interfaces going in our TDM boards. Now I can do it for cheap, as I'm pretty good with the soldering iron!

Regards!
Old 23rd December 2009
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Hi. I'm also quoting the original posts in the thread at the Digi forum, so all the info is here for easy access:

Quote:
Oh by the way for any one that wants to make your own digilink cables, here is the pin out. One needs to get a cisco cable off ebay. If one gets the DB60 to DB60 cable, one can make 2 cables with the purchase on one. They run around 20-30 bucks per cable. Electro Sonic carries the HD50 scis connector (about 10 - 15 bucks) one needs to put on the end of the cable when you cut it. The HD50 connector is one that you don't need to solder, it has push on lugs for the wire, you don't even need to strip the wire.

The pins are as follows. I will put the HD50 pin first then the DB60 pin it goes to. n/c means not connected.

1 to 16, 2 to 17, 3 to 14, 4 to 12, 5 to 10, 6 to 8, 7 to 6, 8 to 4, 9 to 2, 10 n/c, 11 to 30, 12 n/c, 13 to 29, 14 n/c, 15 n/c, 16 to 60, 17 to 58, 18 to 56, 19 to 54, 20 to 52, 21 to 50, 22 to 48, 23 to 46, 24 to 20, 25 to 26, 26 to 15, 27 to 44, 28 to 13, 29 to 11, 30 to 9, 31 to 7, 32 to 5, 33 to 3, 34 to 1, 35 n/c, 36 to 31, 37 n/c, 38 to 32, 39 n/c, 40 n/c, 41 to 59, 42 to 57, 43 to 55, 44 to 53, 45 to 51, 46 to 49, 47 to 47, 48 to 45, 49 to 41, 50 to 35.
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Shorty,

Pin configuration is usually printed in small numbers beside the pins themselves. If you look at the connector end, looking at the pins, you should see a number beside the first pin and the last pin on each row of pins.

In the case of the HD50, pin 1 is top row right hand side, pin 25 is top row left hand side. This row is pins 1 - 25.

The second row is pin 26 bottom left hand side, and pin 50 is bottow right hand side. This row is pins 26-50.

As for the DB60, same thing, looking at the pins, pin 1 is top left hand side, pin 15 is top right hand side, this being pins 1-15.

The second row, pin 16 is right hand side, pin 30 is left hand side. This row is pins 16-30.

The third row, pin 31 is left hand side, pin 45 is right hand side. This row is pins 31-45.

The fourth row, pin 46 is right hand side, and pin 60 is left hand side. This row is pins 46-60.

Please note that I am calling the top of the connector the long side of the D.

It doesn't really matter which type of cable you get, you are only going to use one end, you will just have to do some continuity testing with a multi-meter to find out which wire goes to which pin. This is something you should do anyway because when cables are made, the manufacture might have used different colors of inner wires on that run of cables.

Don't worry about destroying the cable end of the DB60, if you are careful, you can peel away the molding and just use the pins and pin chassis, then you just get a house for an DB15 or DB9 connector. They work just fine.

Here is the pin out for the Y cable.

Stating with the Female DB60 that would go to unit 1. The second number is the male DB60 that would go to the core card. You can just put a HD50 connector in the place of the female DB60, but you will have to figure out that pin configuration from the previous pinout I posted before.

I will put the female DB60 pin number first followed be the male DB60. I will do the unit 1 female, and then I will do the unit 2 female. nc means not connected.

Female A.

1 to 1, 2 to 2, 3 to 3, 4 to 4, 5 to 5, 6 to 6, 7 nc, 8 nc, 9 to 9, 10 to 10, 11 nc, 12 nc, 13 to 13, 14 to 14, 15 to 15, 16 to 16, 17 to 17, 18 nc, 19 nc, 20 to 20, 21 nc, 22 nc, 23 nc, 24 nc, 25 cn, 26 to 26, 27 nc, 28 nc, 29 nc, 30 to 30, 31 to 31, 32 nc, 33 nc, 34 nc, 35 to 35, 36 nc, 37 nc, 38 nc, 39 nc, 40 nc, 41 to 41, 42 nc, 43 nc, 44 to 44, 45 to 45, 46 to 46, 47 nc, 48, nc, 49 to 49, 50 to 50, 51 nc, 52 nc, 53 to 53, 54 to 54, 55 to 55, 56 to 56, 57 to 57, 58 to 58, 59 to 59, 60 to 60.

Female B.

1 to 39, 2 to 22, 3 to 34, 4 to 27, 5 to 33, 6 to 28, 7 nc, 8 nc, 9 to 7, 10 to 8, 11 nc, 12 nc, 13 to 13, 14 to 14, 15 to 42, 16 to 19, 17 to 17, 18 nc, 19 nc, 20 to 24, 21 nc, 22 nc, 23 nc, 24 nc, 25 nc, 26 to 25, 27 nc, 28 nc, 29 nc, 30 to 11, 31 to 12, 32 nc, 33 nc, 34 nc, 35 to 36, 36 nc, 37 nc, 38 nc, 39 nc, 40 nc, 41 to 37, 42 nc, 43 nc, 44 to 44, 45 to 47, 46 to 48, 47 nc, 48 nc, 49 to 51, 50 to 52, 51 nc, 52 nc, 53 to 38, 54 to 23, 55 to 43, 56 to 18, 57 to 52, 58 to 29, 59 to 40, 60 to 21.

Yes some of the pins a doubled up.

To make things easier, I suggest that you take these pin outs, and put them on a chart.
Old 5th June 2010
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Has anyone tried to make their own TDM digilink cables according to this pinout chart?
Old 11th June 2011
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I am trying to.. I'm not 100% certain that his description of the HD50 cable is correct though - my HD50 connector says pin 1 is on the opposite side to what he describes (top left). Can anyone verify?
Old 22nd November 2011
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db60 - cisco

...so does anyone know if one of the Cisco DB60 to DB60 crossover cables will work from a Mix Card to a 1622 I/O ??? There are a handful of those cheap on the used market - without cables...

cheers
Old 21st January 2012
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Digidesign Mix farm card to 882 I/O box cable

Hi
Some absolute wotter has stolen my cable-and I'm a bit confused by all these posts-is there a non-Digidesign cable I can buy to replace it please, as the digi ones are ridiculously expensive?

Regards all

Old 15th February 2012
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I just ordered the requisite cables to build this Y Cable. Hope to be on it next week!
Old 12th March 2012
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Hi all,

Based on this posting, which in turn is based on a DUC posting, I've come up with this pinout diagram for an HD legacy port to dual HD50 Mix port Y cable, also known as a holy grail cable.

Is there any way to verify this as accurate, without just doing it, and hoping?

I already have a DB60 cable and an HD50 cable I was going to hack apart to make this, but first I was hoping to see if anyone sees any problems with my diagram, or the data I'm basing it on. Probably going to splice in, then heatshrink and not actually mess with any of the connectors.

Thanks for the help!

Last edited by electrorocket; 11th April 2012 at 02:53 AM.. Reason: Clarity, accuracy.
Old 11th April 2012
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Is there anybody out there?
Old 15th November 2012
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I made a mistake transcribing your pinouts to that google doc that I fixed. Pin 49 of the DB60 goes to 46a, not 36a. Still haven't built it yet. Getting close! Can anyone verify this data? I'm not sure where rafafredd is getting some of it, especially about the second HD50 connector. I don't see that it correlates to the DUC info. Thanks!
Old 15th November 2012
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hey electro, looks like you move at about the same pace I do! I had bout a Cisco crossover cable in hopes of using it for a 1622 or to make up a cable... looks like that post was a year ago...

Think I tried with a 1622 at the beginning of the summer to no avail. Finally got around to trying to merge that 60 pin cable with a 50 pin scsi... well opened it up to find it only partially populated... maybe 25 wires in that Cisco cable...

Did you happen to find a source of DB60 cables that included 60 wires?

If a had a couple of those, I'd take the time to verify the pinouts on my existing cables... but as it is I'm not going to make the time... (already spent $8 on a cable and a whole bunch of wishful thinking...)
Old 7th March 2013
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I've been actually using a bundle of IDE cable in heat-shrink. Haven't finished putting it together. The DB60 connector has little room to play with! The HD50-HD50 SCSI cable is fully populated, so I just split the jacket around the middle, and will splice in as needed. Just got a really tiny soldering tip, so I'm about to brave it soon, after I re-check the available pin-outs to my diagram.

PS, try to get one of the cisco cables with the medal hoods. They are much easier to work with than the other ones I tried. I saw a guy on ebay with a bunch of them for $10.

PPS, make sure to use heatshrink, or you might short!
Old 20th December 2016
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Bump! How about diying digilink mini cable? They read this thread and created the digilink mini

We need some updates
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