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Old 22nd August 2005
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Hey gang, My wife and I have been running w/o antivirus for a litlle while,. So obviuosly were in the market for an Anit-virus progam. Anyone have any suggestions?
I did a search here but didnt see much, and all the "USER" reviews at zdnet contradict the staff reviews. So I am confused.

I was thinking of going the "all in one" route with Firewall/Aintvirus package. Any suggestions on what to look at? I'd apprecitae it!

Old 23rd August 2005
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Question need info

What OS are you using?
Old 23rd August 2005
It's not for everybody, but I make do with a hardware firewall when I'm at home, ZoneAlarm when I'm in the world, and regular scans with Trend Micro's Housecall free online virus scan.

I haven't had a virus myself since '96 when I installed drivers from a floppy in a package that had been opened and returned. But I used Housecall to clean up my mom's machine when she got a pernicious email worm a couple years ago. It's a bit slow loading over a dial up, but once it's at your end, it works pretty fast.

But, to paraphrase Bob Dylan who sang "to live outside the law, you must be honest" -- to live without virus protection you must be disciplined and a bit vigilant.
Old 23rd August 2005
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but with any A-V u need to upgrade everytime u log onto the net, even if the means everyday. Don't buy the cheapest stuff, it gets hacked heh

They are also custom A-V software buy they cost mmmmmmmmmmmore.

man......if only the anti-virus software companies would stop releasing viruses
Old 23rd August 2005
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Originally Posted by stonewall40
I was thinking of going the "all in one" route with Firewall/Aintvirus package. Any suggestions on what to look at? I'd apprecitae it!
If you're on cable, look into a cable router. Most have a built in firewall, NAT, DHCP.. hey, it's an instant LAN. I would avoid software firewalls (negatives outweigh the positives, IMO), but they can be useful in letting you know when you have trojans, dialers, etc.

As for anti-virus, I prefer to check when needed, rather than always-on, always-vigilant, always conflicting with something and pissing me off. Avoid McAfee and Norton, especially McAfee.
Old 23rd August 2005
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I just started using FXTeleport to bring a subsystem into my DAW, and that really required that I expose the DAW more than I had in the past. Decided, against the weight of past experience, to try installing an antivirus/firewall program. I settled on AVG Antivirus + Firewall -- -- and, 1 week in, I'm really pleased with it. I'm able to run it in the background while doing audio with no discernable extra load, and I haven't had a hiccup from it.

I've never had a problem with a virus, and I've never had antivirus software that wasn't a problem, but so far this thing seems ok. I'm also running spysweeper on my DAW for the first time, and that too seems to be alright.
Old 23rd August 2005
Gear Maniac


Thanks all for the responses! great suggestions.

I forgot that my router has a firewall also. So, my work laptop (XPpro) started to bog down quite a bit, crashed a lot, so then I downloaded Spybot, ran it, and poof my machine back to normal. yay!

Later, I downloaded AVG Anti-virus free version, because I remember liking their firewall package, and low and behold, NO viruses!
I've been running w/o a virus checker since January. I guess it really pays to stick surfing sites you know, keep span to a minimum and not downloading porn.

So, i wonder, if you play it really safe on the internet, I guess you dont need a deticated Antivirus. Just run a free one once in a while? I just feel that sometimes I'm being "irresponisble" not having AV installed all the time.

Side note, the AVG free product seems to be very stable on my machine for the moment. Gotta love free software that works!

Thanks again!
Old 23rd August 2005
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Don't be so sure with AVG

I like AVG a lot, but I would still run the following just to be sure you have no virii, adware and other assoicated nasties.


Spybot Search and Destroy

The above two I have on the computer, but they do not run "automatically".

Symantec remote security check

Trend Micro Housecall

The above two I run remotely every couple of days.

And I love Hijack This

You have to have some knowledge to run Hijack This, but there are some sites that can walk you through it. It is amazing what you can find out about what is running/installed on your machine running Highjack This.

All of the above are what I use for a multi-faceted security approach. If all of the above tell you everything is OK, then it probably is. AVG doesn't catch everything.

But then again, we're not supposed to be connecting our DAW to the Internet...right? heh
Old 24th August 2005
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i havnt had a spyware/virus problem since i ditched internet explorer and UPGRADED to mozilla.

i used to have one computer for both my personal and audio uses. now, i live with my gf and she has the personal computer and mine is in a home studio. woot.
Old 25th August 2005
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Two Firewalls !

My router, BT Voyager 205 has a built-in hardware firewall, which I further enhanced by reprogramming it ! I am now totally stealthed against unsolicited incoming.

I also use Agnitum Outpost software firewall, to control programs calling out.

A good couple of anti-****ware thingys are SpywareBlaster and AdAware Pro.

I use Symantec anti-virus.

Needless to say, this is all on a crash and burn system with ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION to my DAW. I use sneakernet (burning CDs) to transfer data !
Old 27th August 2005
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Just wondering how studios with large client flows deal with loading sessions from cds/dvds. Are they scanned for viruses before the disc gets inserted into the main DAW studio computer?? It would be jacked-up if you opened a DAW session disc that had a virus hidden in the files

Old 27th August 2005
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I also love HiJack This for "Fixing" issues that Norton AV used to let into my system .

Now that I switched to Kaspersky AV Personal 5.0 ($34.95/year), I'm virus free (and Kaspersky found 4 viruses Norton let right on into my system). In all, I run Kaspersky, Spybot S&D (Free), Spyware Blaster (free), the SP2 Firewall (free), and I'm on a NAT router with stateful packet inspection engaged. Not one virus since I ditched Norton's POS excuse for an antivirus program...

Oubound firewall protection is not an issue for me (only acts as a filter for stuff that has already invaded your system), so the SP-2 firewall in conjunction with a NAT/SPI router/gateway is more than enough to protect against port scans and stuff. NTM - the SP-2 firewall is integrated into the OS. I prefer that over installing another software application.

I still run dual boot OS (XP-Pro) for my Tower PC, so I have maximum security for surfing, and maximum power for DAW stuff (I mix on my Tower PC at home, but track to a dedicated Shuttle XPC DAW that is not online and racked in a 12space rack).

I have heard great things about AVG, too...

Mac guys had better start researching this stuff now, as the Oceans of x86 Crackers will have easy access to your lovely OS-X OS w/o having to buy MAC hardware. Not good news, I'm afraid...

Old 27th August 2005
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Originally Posted by nukmusic
Just wondering how studios with large client flows deal with loading sessions from cds/dvds. Are they scanned for viruses before the disc gets inserted into the main DAW studio computer?? It would be jacked-up it you loaded a DAW session disc that had a virus hidden in the files


Most should been on a network/router with onboard firewall/virus scanner so the session is checked as it is uploaded. I would take it a step further and run a virus scan on it before putting it into the session DAW.
Old 27th August 2005
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Another vote for grisoft / AVG anti virus.
Seems to me I also hardly get spyware since I installed AVG 6 months ago.

Compact installation file, very fast updates, daily (sometimes twice) updates (as opposed to always late Norton updates).

Installation takes about 10 minutes, Norton took me 1h40 minutes (last time I installed it). It also removed a virus/spyware threat that was not recognized at all by Norton.
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