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Old 20th July 2005
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SPYWARE THAT ****S UP YOUR PROJECT!

Ok, not so long ago, I had a pop at the good people of Steinberg because cubase corrupted a project of mine. I tried opening the cpr file, but to no avail. My cubase just kept on crashing every 10 mins...it was very stressful.

Anyway, I did virus scans, defrags..etc...but nothing worked. Anyway, I came arcorss a norton antivirus tool for killing spyware. It was a '180search' destroyer.
I downloaded the tool and it found 180Search was on my bloody PC. It killed it!

Now my computer runs so nicely with cubase...no **** ups. And to top it off, my corrupted cpr files now works!

Basically, if you have any problems with cubase, then its probably 180Search or some other spyware. You cant delete 180 search manually...well...its very hard. It re-installs itself. So heres a link. I suggest you all download it to be on the safe side.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...180search.html

By the way, I dont think firewalls can protects you against spyware..because its not strictly a virus...but, its just as harmful.
Old 20th July 2005
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Lesson hopefully learned? Don't hook up a PC that you use for audio to the internet.
Old 20th July 2005
  #3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Offender
By the way, I dont think firewalls can protects you against spyware..because its not strictly a virus...but, its just as harmful.
True, but firewalls won't protect you against virii either. If you (or your browser, or any other software you have installed) knowingly, unknowingly or unwittingly downloads and executes spyware/adware/malware/virii/whatever, a firewall won't stop you from doing so. Best advice for any machines on the net - keep backups current and keep a current and clean image so you won't have to spend time doing damage control or wiping/reinstalling/reconfiguring. And as mentioned, keep mission-critical machines off the net.

Last edited by dingo; 20th July 2005 at 03:58 PM.. Reason: Mercury ascending ****s up my communication
Old 20th July 2005
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UNBELIEVABLE!!!

And you cursed at me and called me names when I pointed out the fault might be your own!!! Holy Cow!!!

Well... at the very least I will give you props for coming back here and admitting it was your own ignorance that caused the problem.

As a DAW builder, I can assure that these two things are performance killers and the KISS of death for DAW's.

Antivirus Programs: Because they take up a lot of behind the scene resources.

Internet Connections: Because it's unwise to run the Antivirus... and it's CRAZY to get online unprotected.... and.... because it's a FREAKING DAW for God's sake!! Buy a cheap e-machine on ebay for $250 to get online with. Would you surf the Internet on your Radar or Console?? Use the tools for what they are meant for!! Why would you risk all your creativity??

This knowledge has long been available online AND from Steinberg themselves!! If you weren't sure... all ya had to do was ask.

Now all you need to do is go back and change the title of your previous thread....and add a BIG Apology to Steinberg for all the names you called them. Don't ya think?????

That's my 2 cents.

p.s. cut back on the porn sites too dude... those are the WORST for spyware....
Old 21st July 2005
  #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crypticglobe
UNBELIEVABLE!!!

And you cursed at me and called me names when I pointed out the fault might be your own!!! Holy Cow!!!

Well... at the very least I will give you props for coming back here and admitting it was your own ignorance that caused the problem.

As a DAW builder, I can assure that these two things are performance killers and the KISS of death for DAW's.

Antivirus Programs: Because they take up a lot of behind the scene resources.

Internet Connections: Because it's unwise to run the Antivirus... and it's CRAZY to get online unprotected.... and.... because it's a FREAKING DAW for God's sake!! Buy a cheap e-machine on ebay for $250 to get online with. Would you surf the Internet on your Radar or Console?? Use the tools for what they are meant for!! Why would you risk all your creativity??

This knowledge has long been available online AND from Steinberg themselves!! If you weren't sure... all ya had to do was ask.

Now all you need to do is go back and change the title of your previous thread....and add a BIG Apology to Steinberg for all the names you called them. Don't ya think?????

That's my 2 cents.

p.s. cut back on the porn sites too dude... those are the WORST for spyware....
heh thumbsup
Old 21st July 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Telecastr
Lesson hopefully learned? Don't hook up a PC that you use for audio to the internet.
Never again! It was HELL!! ... for years.
( I wouldn´t believe internet on a DAW to be really that malicious. Until I find out much too late. That was a lecture of the very hard way.)

It´s over since a while, but what I want to say is: Don´t do that to yourself. Use separate computers.

Ruphus
Old 21st July 2005
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Keep DAWs off the Internet!

I only use seperate Internet computers. If I MUST connect to the net for some odd reason, I preinstall a program called ZONE ALARM, from a disc I burned of it. I then start Zone Alarm before connecting to the Internet. It stops all incoming and outgoing traffic, unless I expressly permit and specify it.

Best thing, ZA is free :-)
Old 21st July 2005
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Assuming you have reasons for ****ting in your own nest by connecting internet to your livelihood, LOL use firefox..it cant execute any activex. and use webmail not outlook.
Old 21st July 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larrchild
Assuming you have reasons for ****ting in your own nest by connecting internet to your livelihood, LOL use firefox..it cant execute any activex. and use webmail not outlook.


agreed, which is the other thing I do besides putting in Zone Alarm, is delete IE from the Windows Programs file, then install my burned discs of Firefox and Thunderbird---but be sure to have the latest security updates for firefox on your disc! (Firefox has had some intruders lately :-)


best of worlds is just have a seperate computer(s) for the internet
Old 21st July 2005
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Be careful with ZONE ALARM.... If you ever uninstall it....you have the potential of loosing your internet connection. I just went through 2 weeks of *ell trying to get back online with my home PC. I called all kinds of support and no-one was able to get me back online.

Had to do a disk wipe and start all over. Runs like a new one now! Installed Norton Anti Virus this time.

Agreed on the studio computer with no internet connection.
Not ever going there! tutt
Old 21st July 2005
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Idealy, yeh, the studio computer wouldn't connect to the internet. But reality of O/S updates, plugin updates, online authorisation, MP3 uploads, looking up lyrics ect ect means that it is harder and harder not to have the box plugged in.

There are many things to do to make it safer:

1) use an internet gateway with built in firewall
2) use a software firewall on your computer (Zone Alarm and Norton are crap, use Sygate Personal Free
3) use antivirus (again, Norton is bloatware crap, use AVG Free )
4) Don't be a divy visiting pr0n sites ect - keep to safe known sites
5) Don't let anyone else surf (unplug the connection physicaly if need be)
6) Don't use IE, use Firefox

I can't beleive Zone Alarm messed up your computer so bad you had to reinstall the O/S!! You still running Windoze 95 or something?!?? heh
Old 22nd July 2005
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Hmmm...I've been using a Mac for audio for over 15 years. It's been connected to the internet since the internet was invented (almost).

Never had a virus. Ever.
Old 22nd July 2005
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Me to w/ the Mac, but only 3 years....

sdf
Old 22nd July 2005
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Well a mac is a good choise if you want to play safe.

Personaly, I have rooms full of PC's, Linux servers, and Macs all connected to the net, and (touch wood) have never once got ****ed up with viruses ect in years.

On PC's, a lot of it is educating the users not to click on everything, and not to install toolbars or 'search helpers'. Running Ad-Aware and Spybot every month on each users machine, and showing them how much crap they have picked up (where did this XXXPr0N-Dial come from?!?!?) usualy gets people to moderate their online bevaviour, and the odd lecture about not opening atachments and watching for 'social engineering.' always helps.
Old 22nd July 2005
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That's the main reason why I have my DAW on a Mac.
Old 25th July 2005
  #16
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I made the switch to Firefox...

...and it's been great, except I have to keep IE for the sites that only let you use IE. iLok is one. PSP, I think...or one of the other big plug sites...is another. Yeah, not much worry with Mac, but I'm on Window nowadays.
Old 25th July 2005
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well..... you did use NORTON - it's utter & total pants

also, dump any ****ty adsl USB modems given to you by your IP connection company and fork out for a proper router (they are faster too)

if u use a router you arent required to install any silly s/w from your Ip designed for UIM's
Old 26th July 2005
  #18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Telecastr
Lesson hopefully learned? Don't hook up a PC that you use for audio to the internet.
Yah... and don't drive over 65 on the freeway...

Two or three times, since I built my first 8 channel hard-drive based system in 1996, I've embarked on this noble quest, even going so far as to build a little 'throwaway' for surfing.

Maybe others have the discipline for this kind of thing but I don't. Now, it should be noted I no longer run take any outside clients (although I used to have a 16 channel project studio) and my old studio was pretty casual, anyhow.


You're absolutely correct, though, that it is the best way to go and I, too, advise it, when possible. But have you tried to run and maintain a machine that's not online, these days?


I've had either a DSL or cable always-on since 2000, I don't run background anti-virus programs or anti-adware programs (although I do scan somewhat frequently using the excellent Trend Micro Housecall free online virus scan and occasionally use Spybot in non-resident mode (and used it to modify some settins in IE to make it a tad less susceptible to intrusionware). And, yeah, after using Firefox and Mozilla for about a year I went back to IE. But I regularly use all three, since I need to check my dayjob work as a web/database guy. IE is my fave, all round, but it is less secure, practically speaking.

Through the exercise of moderate diligence (and perhaps some luck?), I haven't got a virus or worm since 1996, when a driver floppy in a package that had been opened and returned infected my machine with an old fashioned boot sector virus. (Old-fashioned, non-destructive, but virulent... by the time I caught it -- in those days of floppies -- it had infected scores of disks. Happily, I caught it before I got my first CD-burner later that year or I might still have copies of the virus around...
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