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Old 27th August 2008
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I posted an idea on the UA forum about 5 years ago (I swear I thought I was the first guy to suggest it over there).

I wanted UA to bring out full channel strips of API, Neve and SSL (or Harrison), perhaps even Helios.

Well we aren't far off that. Just add auxes, pan, level and auto to the Neve and Helios stuff and then try and do something else, if not API maybe Sphere.

Anyway I'd love to see a DAW company allow a plugin mixer. Like soundscape. No nuendo mixer as standard, build your own block by block.

You could configure the channels the way you want them, modelled line amps and channel dynamics, eqs, number of auxes etc.

They would feed a DSP summing platform that allowed some frequency specific blend of channels (crosstalk) and noise. We're aren't far off that idea what with the Waves JJP stuff offering mains hum etc.

You could have a button to turn this on or off.

The mix amps would be modelled for frequency response and distortion and their associated non-linearities, stereo width etc. You could use 8 Neve channels with Harrison style summing whatever.

You build your mixer the way you want. That would be very interesting to see... I predict 2 more years until that is it.

Anyway I'm all over a UAD-2 Quad, 12 x the power is perfect to me!

I hope they do the Harrison sub-harmonic synth and an IBP!
Great thoughts. Check out Metric Halo though, and their new 2D card/ software. Some say that somehow their "firewire summing" does make things sound more pleasant and wider, just by using it. This has been the case since the MIO mixer utility was released several years ago for free as a routing matrix between your DAW and the interface. . Also, the new "character" plugin can be assigned in a multitude of configurations/ busses, etc, and has several flavors included. User reviews here on GS have been pretty incredible.

Granted, it's part of the interface.
Old 27th August 2008
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not much--but something else I received was that there is a problem with the apple motherboards and the uad-2 quads. something like it is only able to use 90% of the 100% potential.
Ugh... I really hope that one's not true. The one thing I had hoped they got worked out..
Old 27th August 2008
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- counting LED's, I get:

UAD-1 - 7
Solo - 20 (2.86X)
Duo - 40 (5.71X)
Quad - 80 (11.43X)

FWIW...
Correct.
Old 27th August 2008
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Ugh... I really hope that one's not true. The one thing I had hoped they got worked out..
im not sure if its 100% trues its just what my source who has 'connections' at UA is telling me -- but hes been 100% correct so far. -it could have been fixed before its release, however.
Old 27th August 2008
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Thumbs up

okay, I've been on UAD fence for the last 7 years...I'm ready now.. Because, they (Universal Audio) has "finally" delivered the Power needed for they stellar plugins.

Good Job Guys...
Old 27th August 2008
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okay, I've been on UAD fence for the last 7 years...I'm ready now.. Because, they (Universal Audio) has "finally" delivered the Power needed for they stellar plugins.

Good Job Guys...
you dont know that! for all we know, the original set of plugs, rewritten for uad-2, could take 3x or more dsp as there uad-1 counterparts -- hence the "more tone" on the uad-2 page -- who knows?!?
Old 27th August 2008
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you dont know that! for all we know, the original set of plugs, rewritten for uad-2, could take 3x or more dsp as there uad-1 counterparts -- hence the "more tone" on the uad-2 page -- who knows?!?
I for one hope so.

Again, I want them to be "XE" versions that allow the running of the 100% identical old versions for recall and DSP savings.

The "SE" versions can be put out to pasture.
Old 27th August 2008
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I'm gonna buy up a bunch of UAD-1's on ebay! My 6 year-old card is still kickin'.


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Old 27th August 2008
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I for one hope so.

Again, I want them to be "XE" versions that allow the running of the 100% identical old versions for recall and DSP savings.

The "SE" versions can be put out to pasture.
As stated in one of my deleted post, I totally agree with you on both parts.
Old 27th August 2008
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Great thoughts. Check out Metric Halo though, and their new 2D card/ software. Some say that somehow their "firewire summing" does make things sound more pleasant and wider, just by using it. This has been the case since the MIO mixer utility was released several years ago for free as a routing matrix between your DAW and the interface. . Also, the new "character" plugin can be assigned in a multitude of configurations/ busses, etc, and has several flavors included. User reviews here on GS have been pretty incredible.

Granted, it's part of the interface.
Well, the image UA is giving us now is the UAD plug lineup "mounted" in what resembles a harrison console, so....
Old 27th August 2008
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Can anyone see if there are ports out the back of the computer on the new cards?

Universal Audio | UAD-2
Old 27th August 2008
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Can anyone see if there are ports out the back of the computer on the new cards?

Universal Audio | UAD-2
nope, the resolution detailing is nowhere near high enough
Old 27th August 2008
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Jesus you guys really counted the LEDs? Argh my eyes...

Anyway, I don't see why the LED represent the actual power of UAD-2 althought the number seems to be realistic.

I'm also expecting something like 40x power mainly because of taking zero latency into account the actual plugin count will shrunk. If they offer something like 12x the power of UAD-1 with zero latency, I'm sold.
Old 27th August 2008
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Jesus you guys really counted the LEDs? Argh my eyes...
If they offer something like 12x the power of UAD-1 with zero latency, I'm sold.
AFAIK it's physically impossible to have uad with zero latency. The audio has to travel over the pci buss which takes time...in any situation.

But regardless if it features zero latency or not I'm totally psyched about this new card. Imagine having a 8core with 3 uad-2 quad's....Whoooooooo!!!

Cheers!
Old 27th August 2008
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AFAIK it's physically impossible to have uad with zero latency. The audio has to travel over the pci buss which takes time...in any situation.

But regardless if it features zero latency or not I'm totally psyched about this new card. Imagine having a 8core with 3 uad-2 quad's....Whoooooooo!!!

Cheers!
I remember the Powercore has such feature, so not possible with UAD?

Bah...guess I have no fate with UAD then....
Old 27th August 2008
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@pigcat

maybe not ZERO latency but DAMN close! We shall see if the SHARC they are using in there compensates somehow.... I think you will find you will be pleased at least thats what I was told by a UA rep
Old 27th August 2008
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AFAIK it's physically impossible to have uad with zero latency. The audio has to travel over the pci buss which takes time...in any situation.

But regardless if it features zero latency or not I'm totally psyched about this new card. Imagine having a 8core with 3 uad-2 quad's....Whoooooooo!!!

Cheers!
Yeah, yeah, yeah... can´t get zero latency with anything digital... but you can get close enought...
Old 27th August 2008
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Well, the image UA is giving us now is the UAD plug lineup "mounted" in what resembles a harrison console, so....
That's what i thought, but it was more a case of wishful thinking..
What Harrison console does it resemble though?
Old 27th August 2008
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so the solo looks like it will be able to run 3 33609's

when does uad 3 come out? heh

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Old 27th August 2008
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so the solo looks like it will be able to run 3 33609's
when does uad 3 come out?
A single Solo? Why the self imposed limitation? If you are all about instance counts, then get (4) Quads ITB and you can run 50-60 33609's!

Serious power users will be running multiple Quads so lack of DSP should not be an issue.
Old 27th August 2008
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I'm surprised no body has mentioned the fact their add says more tone. I can only assume this means they have improved the quality of their plugs.. Agreed?
No. I took that as it just means you can finally run more of the high-quality plugs instead of the SE "economy" versions.
Old 27th August 2008
  #1162
I am really excited by uad-2 and has been a faithful UA least 10-12years.

So now, I hope that UA release a quad card for laptop users (xpander).

Since PCIe card to your desktop computer that enables the portable Quad xpander in.

I buy directly if so .... hope .. hope

best regards

drumrec.com
Old 27th August 2008
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this is what i heard

solo 2,5 times
duo 5 times
quad 10 times
the power of the original UAD-1

just preordered me a duo flexi for starters
gonna be here next week
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Old 27th August 2008
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this is what i heard

solo 2,5 times
duo 5 times
quad 10 times
the power of the original UAD-1

just preordered me a duo flexi for starters
gonna be here next week
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where?
Old 27th August 2008
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I am really excited by uad-2 and has been a faithful UA least 10-12years.

So now, I hope that UA release a quad card for laptop users (xpander).

Since PCIe card to your desktop computer that enables the portable Quad xpander in.
I'm sure they ll release, if not now then in the next half year for sure. Probably they have other ideas in mind too...
Old 27th August 2008
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That's what i thought, but it was more a case of wishful thinking..
What Harrison console does it resemble though?
Actually, just the leather hand rest resembles Bruce Swedien's 32c, but the rest looks just like a Neve 88 series desk.
Old 27th August 2008
  #1167
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Does UAD-2 work with UAD-1

Has anyone heard if the UAD-2 can reside in a computer with a UAD-1?
Old 27th August 2008
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Has anyone heard if the UAD-2 can reside in a computer with a UAD-1?
Im 99.9% sure that it would be compatible.. As im sure the plugins would be too..

99.9% of software/hardware out there is backwards compatible.. If its NOT (UAD-2) - Thats just like Protools coming out with Hardware/Software that is unable to load old projects...

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Old 27th August 2008
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ExpressCard Port Duplicator Anyone?

Dear fellow slutz,

with the advent of the UAD2 which I will buy for sure (quad), I am stuck in a problem regarding my MBP.

I want to use the new RME MADIface and also the UAD2.

Here's the problem:

Although it's not confirmed yet, I am sure there will be an Xpander version of the UAD2 and it most certainly will be via ExpressCard BUS.

That leaves me stuck for the MADIface as the MBP only has one ExpressCard Slot.

So I was wondering if there is such thing as an ExpressCard Slot hub or duplicator, as otherwise I am thrown into choosing between DSP heaven or Audio interface heaven..

Pretty much the same thing as a Pornstar engaging you saying you have one chance only of either having a blowjob or a good old doggy style but not both so you'd have to chose.. I mean, how much such torture one can handle?

So let's have it if any of you know such expressCard port duplicator (and hoping that such hubbing wont screw with UAD2's or RME's working..)

Thanks in advance
Old 27th August 2008
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plugin count of former UA TDMs :
Universal Audio

seems that a Solo equals a Accel
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