plug-in to simulate vari-speed tracking?
Old 19th December 2007
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plug-in to simulate vari-speed tracking?

is there any "real-time" plug-in that simulates vari-speed recording where you can mess with audio formants, so it sounds like you recorded something at a slower speed than playback speed, ie: those old beatles recording tricks.... thanks
Old 19th December 2007
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what software?

Both PT 7.4 and Ableton can do this as a matter of course...pitch 'n' time and wave mechanics Speed (possibly there's a soundtoys plugin too?) are "plugins" that can do it.
Old 19th December 2007
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well, i'm not looking just to pitch audio up or down, but to keep it in the same key and make it sound like it had been recorded faster (or slower) then played back at normal tempo of the song....
Old 19th December 2007
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You need to change the samplerate

I no that the RME Fireface can do this which will make it act like varispeed
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pro tools has this built in
Old 19th December 2007
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You need to change the samplerate

I no that the RME Fireface can do this which will make it act like varispeed
...which will change the speed as well, and most likely sound awful.

Sounds like melodyne's your best bet - you should be able to adjust the formant to get the sound you're after.
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Reaper does this as well.


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...which will change the speed as well, and most likely sound awful.

Sounds like melodyne's your best bet - you should be able to adjust the formant to get the sound you're after.

I always thought changing the samplerate sounded great I know its something Mwagner does for drums.
Old 19th December 2007
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well, i'm not looking just to pitch audio up or down, but to keep it in the same key and make it sound like it had been recorded faster (or slower) then played back at normal tempo of the song....
A lot of vocally oriented pitch shifting software has various formant shifting tools. It may take some tinkering to get what you want but I imagine this might be the most fertile row to how...
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...which will change the speed as well,
Isn't that the point of varispeed? It's how a tape machine works. You change the speed and the pitch changes along with it.

In Ableton Live you can turn warping on for all of your tracks, change the warp mode to "repitch" and then if you mess with the main tempo the pitch of all of your tracks will change along with the speed, just like tape. This is basically the same thing as changing the sample rate.
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Oh sorry, I guess I misinterpreted the original poster's intention. It sounds like formant shifting is what he wants.
Old 19th December 2007
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reap will do both varispeed and formant shifting.
Old 20th December 2007
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Thats what varispeed is meant to do.
Now try rereading the 3rd post (or indeed, some of the other posts halfwat down), and you'll see why I've been giving the comments I have. I do understand what varispeed does - I have used a tape machine before.
Old 20th December 2007
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so, what then are the best sounding formant shifting plug-ins in your opinion (everybody)? melodyne? i'd like to record acoustic guitars then formant-convert them to mandolins, records drums then formant convert them to monstrous thundering herds of wolly mammoths and formant convert vocals up to some prince black album-era female sounding vocals, etc..... thanks!
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