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Old 22nd October 2020 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by stixstudios View Post
Thanks for the info Kire.

What year Mac are you using?
Late reply sorry, I'm using a MacBook Pro 2016.

To be fair, I get like one kernel panic every week or so, I couple this to the Yamaha firewire driver (see below), is anyone else experiencing this?


Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI(5.6)[9F35B1B2-293B-364F-9C50-9920C2E8B796]@0xffffff7f8653b000->0xffffff7f8655ffff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[1325E2A1-1CC0-36E0-8556-51247DD2CCC7]@0xffffff7f85895000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily(4.7.3)[6C5BB689-FDCE-3F81-8585-459369DF8A3B]@0xffffff7f85eec000
jp.co.yamaha.driver.YamahaFWAudioDriver(1.4.3)[818862C9-15C9-043B-3BF5-AC4D034F6ED6]@0xffffff7f89d4c000->0xffffff7f89d82fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily(206.5)[DC4BEB54-0CD5-3009-8D50-B2AC99A47C4A]@0xffffff7f85b7f000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily(4.7.3)[6C5BB689-FDCE-3F81-8585-459369DF8A3B]@0xffffff7f85eec000
Old 23rd October 2020 | Show parent
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I’d still have mine if the digital conversion card was upgradeable.

I’d still have mine if the digital conversion card was upgradeable.
Old 23rd October 2020
  #4593
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Hi!

with a brand new MacBook on my hands, I finally have bought a Steinberg UR44C as replacement for my N12. I still have to decide wether I will totally abandon my N12 (feels painful) or use the UR44C as an interface between N12 and my MacBook. It will arrive tomorrow, and I'm wondering a few things:

1) can de DAW control section be used on new macOS Catalina? with the hardware MIDI cables maybe? in other words: Could it work without the 32bit driver?

2) how do the pre-amps of the N12 (older) compare to the (cheaper?) pre-amps of the UR44c? Does anyone know?

thanks (btw: never experienced any kernel panics on my MacBook 2014)
Old 24th October 2020 | Show parent
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Originally Posted by MaartenWLierop View Post
Hi!

with a brand new MacBook on my hands, I finally have bought a Steinberg UR44C as replacement for my N12. I still have to decide wether I will totally abandon my N12 (feels painful) or use the UR44C as an interface between N12 and my MacBook. It will arrive tomorrow, and I'm wondering a few things:

1) can de DAW control section be used on new macOS Catalina? with the hardware MIDI cables maybe? in other words: Could it work without the 32bit driver?

2) how do the pre-amps of the N12 (older) compare to the (cheaper?) pre-amps of the UR44c? Does anyone know?

thanks (btw: never experienced any kernel panics on my MacBook 2014)
I went through this last year, although I was already using the UR44 as a sort of mobile unit. I had upgraded to a new PC and bought the same brand firewire card (just PCIe instead of PCI) and could not get it to work without major problems so I'm not running my n12 now....very unfortunate.

The preamps in the UR44 were born out of the N Series....I do not know if they share the exact same circuitry but they sound very close to me. What is different is the DAC, and the n12 has a better DAC to my ears....which is of course subjective. The n12 DAC has a dynamic range of 114db, and I believe the UR44 is around 105db. Of course there is more to it than just dynamic range but I clearly recall a difference in sound. Not a huge difference but it was there. But the UR44 is a fine interface, especially for the price.

Sorry, can't help with any MAC questions, but you will for sure miss the n12. Absolute awesome piece of gear.
Old 2nd November 2020
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A friend of mine just bought a N12 for recording drums. Has anybody recorded drums with N12?

For which drum element would you bypass the internal preamps and use some external preamp? Would a stereo neve clone add something to the overheads?
Old 5 days ago | Show parent
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I have the N12 for years and also a brandnew UR816C(for external hardware connectioons), and I use both, the N12 for recordings mostly and it still sounds fantastic, to my ears just a bit better than the pre's from the UR816C.
ALl running just fine on latest W10 + Cubase 11.

Maybe a tip for users who have dropouts:
a few yeras back I bought a second videocard in my PC for a third screen. I bought a NVidia card and after that I had lots of Audio troubles. I swopped it for a chaep and simple Raedon card and everything went back to running smooth again.

And also this: Always fire up the N12 first before the PC. In the past I never had problems with turning on the N12 after the PC but since Windows10 this is the best and trouble-free way to run realtime audio with the N12.
When I do it the other way around I get dropouts. Maybe something to do with the wordclock in Windows.
Old 5 days ago | Show parent
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Originally Posted by stixstudios View Post
So the n12 has 6 outs.

These are derived from the 5.1 surround outs. Is this true?

So the only way to "insert" some hardware into the chain, meaning to go out from my DAW to 2 channels, for instance (C) LS/RS then through my hardware effects then back into, lets say channels 9/10 and record that.

Initially I thought that I could come out through the Aux, but this doesn't work.

OR have I missed something obvious?

Cheers.
The only two outputs besides the mains are the AUX L+R that you can choose from in your DAW(in my case Cubase). I do this all the time to go to external hardware. The Monitor-outputs you mention are just hardware and not seen as supported outputports in the DAW.
From the AUX out you can go back from the hardware into any inputs channels.
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