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Strictly Digital (No Analog Emulation) Plugins?
Old 18th January 2020
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Strictly Digital (No Analog Emulation) Plugins?

I saw this quote somewhere on this site: "Digital is amazing when it's not trying to be analog."

So I want to know, what VST plugins do you guys use that are strictly digital and push the sound to its best ?
Old 18th January 2020
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Anything Tokyo Dawn Labs.
Old 18th January 2020
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Originally Posted by diemercerx View Post
I saw this quote somewhere on this site: "Digital is amazing when it's not trying to be analog."

So I want to know, what VST plugins do you guys use that are strictly digital and push the sound to its best ?
Most of the algorithmic reverb and multifx plugins are not emulations. Some are just new algorithms others are directly ported from hardware like Lexcion, Eventide.
Old 18th January 2020
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Most of the algorithmic reverb and multifx plugins are not emulations. Some are just new algorithms others are directly ported from hardware like Lexcion, Eventide.
Can u name some that you like?
Old 18th January 2020
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Can u name some that you like?
Eventide are really good. TBH I don't like much else
Old 19th January 2020
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Old 19th January 2020
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Izotope and Fabfilter
Old 19th January 2020
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Anything Tokyo Dawn Labs.
This. And CraveEQ.
Old 19th January 2020
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DMG Audio Equilibrium is an extremely transparent-sounding EQ. The best digital EQ IMO.

DMG Trackcomp - includes (very good) emulations but the default DMG mode is a really good purely digital compressor.

I generally agree with your quote about digital, and apart from a few rare exceptions, I find most analog emulations to be snake oil. They're ruining so many productions and records with rolled off high end, smeared transients and aliasing that people simply aren't hearing for some reason. Digital doesn't have to do any of that.
Old 19th January 2020
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CraveDSP,Unfiltered Audio,Sonoris,TDL,DMG Audio are some of my standout digital doing their own thing plugin companies
Old 19th January 2020
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The ones mentioned... oeksound... valhalla... waves, plugin alliance, etc... the stuff in your daw

There’s no reason any of us couldn’t make a record with the stock plugins in a good modern daw... we’re pretty dang spoiled now, actually
Old 19th January 2020
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oeksound soothe, spiff and gullfoss

I subscribed to this thread cause I love digital processors for this kind of thing - you can't find this in analog

deesser like pro-ds and e2desser which is detecting slew rate instead being just dynamic EQ
Old 19th January 2020
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Leapwing, TDR, Crave DSP, DMG Audio, Airwindows...
Old 20th January 2020
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sonnox
zynaptiq
Old 20th January 2020
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For the purpose of information gathering, i encourage you guys to say why you like the plugins you're mentioning
Old 20th January 2020
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DMG Audio Equilibrium is an extremely transparent-sounding EQ. The best digital EQ IMO.

DMG Trackcomp - includes (very good) emulations but the default DMG mode is a really good purely digital compressor.

I generally agree with your quote about digital, and apart from a few rare exceptions, I find most analog emulations to be snake oil. They're ruining so many productions and records with rolled off high end, smeared transients and aliasing that people simply aren't hearing for some reason. Digital doesn't have to do any of that.
SNAKE OIL?!?!?!

kidding lol.

Personally I just realized that analog emulation is kind of useless except when it comes to color. We're all listening in digital anyway, so why go back?
Old 20th January 2020
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Well, real high-end analog gear sounds amazing and I think way surpasses digital. Combine that gear with top converters and the results are stunning. But, and here's the kicker, plugins often do a poor job at emulating this and you end up with what could be described as clichés of "the analog effect" rather than the big, punchy and, yes, transparent sound that high end analog can give you.

So given that, I often take a "pure digital" approach when it comes to plugins with just the odd bit of saturation etc when needed.
Old 1st March 2020
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There’s no reason any of us couldn’t make a record with the stock plugins in a good modern daw... we’re pretty dang spoiled now, actually
Exactly! ;-)
Old 1st March 2020
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bx_digital V3, even says it in the name!
Old 1st March 2020
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A bit of a wildcard, but I really love Apogee ModComp! Apparently the ”punch” mode is based on the SSL bus but without the noise and saturation part.

Really like it!
Old 2nd March 2020
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SNAKE OIL?!?!?!

kidding lol.

Personally I just realized that analog emulation is kind of useless except when it comes to color. We're all listening in digital anyway, so why go back?
We're not listening in digital , even as the media we peruse is digital. I know that you didn't mean that, but listening in digital isn't plausible. Try "listening to digital audio". To me this assumes the analog part. Listening "in" means to me that somehow the listening is happening in the digital domain. A digital tool can do that, in consuming a digital audio stream. Ears of course cannot.

Colour, yes, but there's also analog type behaviour. There are many bad sides of digital, though they are more or less outweighed by the very strong upsides and can for the most part be avoided. But also analog has upsides and there's nothing wrong trying to emulate these with digital techniques as long as they're not compromising the many upsides of digital audio.

The notion to embrace digital tools being just that is perfectly valid and sound.

As for some tools I feel are "true digital" are the excellent:

TDR Nova
TDR Kotelnikov
Waves C1
Valhalla FreqEcho
Dexed
Melda MSpectralDelay

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