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MOTU MIDI Timepiece Install/OSX - HELP!
Old 1 week ago
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MOTU MIDI Timepiece Install/OSX - HELP!

Sigh. I miss OS9. The more OSX approaches iOS, the more I hate it.

Okay, here's the situation. I got a new Mac Pro 2010 12 core to run Logic and Reaper, running latest OS and Logic. I've connected my MIDI Timepiece AV/USB to it and run the latest Motu MIDI driver installer, restart, and it doesn't show up in the midi section of Audio/MIDI set up inside the Utilities folder. After searching Google for an answer, I discover that I need to put a copy of the driver into the User/Library/Audio/Midi drivers folder, which is hidden of course. Fine, I do that and reboot. Still nothing in the midi setup window. Clockworks can't find it either.

So, exactly how does one install a timepiece in the new OSX?

Any help is more than appreciated, thank you.

Old 1 week ago
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Bumpity.

Anyone? Please? This completely stops me and I've run out of ideas.
Old 1 week ago
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Something is missing from your information.
Download the latest (taking for granted your cheese grater is running an OS compatible with it) Driver from MOTU site. Also, hopefully you're plugged in via the USB on the MTP.
Let the Driver install itself. You don't have to manually be placing it in the folder. Your Library doesn't have to be hidden (there's a terminal command to do it).
It should then show up in the AMS.
Old 1 week ago
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Hah! Okay...long story short, Apple's a butt and just orphaned the midi timepiece.

The Long Story: Finally got it working. Fortunately, my son is a computer geek and can fly the terminal window. Breeding your own tech support = highly recommended. Here's what he found:



Note the part where it says "system policy prevents loading". According to my son, that translates into English as "Well, you didn't pay us money so we're cutting you out of the new system." In other words, probably the best selling midi interface ever doesn't work with the new OS. Luckily, my son knew the code to "F U Apple" and forced the system to recognize the Motu drivers. I've asked him to follow thru with the specific command line instructions for "F U Apple". Stay tuned.
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Are you on High Sierra? If you are, see if the Motu Midi Driver kext can be found in /Library/StagedExtensions and subfolders (like /Library/StagedExtensions/Library/Extensions). If it's there:

- disable SIP - Instructions here - reboot
- delete the .kext from StagedExtensions, reboot
- re-enable SIP
- then re-install the new Motu driver

(Removing files in /Library/StagedExtensions can also be done without disabling SIP, via command line in Recovery, as described here.)



I have a very old Motu Fastlane Midi interface, when I tested High Sierra, it worked without issue. Same driver.

Here's a description from Motu.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by stratology View Post
Are you on High Sierra? If you are, see if the Motu Midi Driver kext can be found in /Library/StagedExtensions and subfolders (like /Library/StagedExtensions/Library/Extensions). If it's there:

- disable SIP - Instructions here - reboot
- delete the .kext from StagedExtensions, reboot
- re-enable SIP
- then re-install the new Motu driver

(Removing files in /Library/StagedExtensions can also be done without disabling SIP, via command line in Recovery, as described here.)



I have a very old Motu Fastlane Midi interface, when I tested High Sierra, it worked without issue. Same driver.

Here's a description from Motu.
Perfect! Yes, that's exactly what happened and how it was fixed. I couldn't find this info by Google and had to call in a Pro. Glad the info is out there. The way I understand it, MOTU has stopped giving Apple money to have their driver given permission by the system to be recognized. Can you spell "Extortion"?

Okay... I'm guessing you can since I just spelled it out

Cheers.

.
Old 1 week ago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilRoy View Post
The way I understand it, MOTU has stopped giving Apple money to have their driver given permission by the system to be recognized.

No, it's just a regular, meaningful security measure that affects every 3rd party that wants to install a driver. During the install process, the user has to give permission in System Prefs > Security. If he/she does not, or misreads the dialog box, the driver does not get permission to run.
So, essentially, the feature protects the computer from malware installs on system level.
Old 1 week ago
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In short:

- Restart Mac OS X and hold command-R (Apple-R)
- Menubar -> Utilities menu -> Terminal
- "csrutil disable" without quotes, press enter afterwards
- Restart again
- ???
- profit
Old 6 days ago
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Originally Posted by stratology View Post
No, it's just a regular, meaningful security measure that affects every 3rd party that wants to install a driver. During the install process, the user has to give permission in System Prefs > Security. If he/she does not, or misreads the dialog box, the driver does not get permission to run.
So, essentially, the feature protects the computer from malware installs on system level.
Travis from MOTU Tech Support here. I just wanted to jump in and say Stratology hit the nail on the head. When installing drivers in versions of macOS later than High Sierra, you must go to Security and Privacy immediately after install and "allow" the extension to load.
This "allow" message will time out after 30mins or so so if this message is no longer there, you can re-trigger it by trashing the .kext from your machine and running the MOTU MIDI installer again.
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Thanks Travis.

Okay, Apple isn't a butt.

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