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iMac & External hard disk / NAS?
Old 1 week ago
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iMac & External hard disk / NAS?

Hello everybody,

I have 2 questions:

1) I want to buy an iMac 2017, but can decide between 2 models.

FIRST:
4.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 4.5GHz
16GB 2400MHz DDR4
256GB SSD
Radeon Pro 575 with 4GB video memory

SECOND:
4.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 4.5GHz
32GB 2400MHz DDR4
512GB SSD
Radeon Pro 580 with 8GB video memory

Which one you guys think is the best for me?
I produce EDM music and use plugins like Nexus, Sylenth, iZotope, Neutron, ...
My main DAW is Logic X.

2) I read that it's important to move my samples, VST's and recordings to an external hard drive.

I can't decide what's the best choice:

1) Buy a NAS with 2 slots with 2TB hard disks.
MAIN: DAW & old projects
FIRST HDD: Samples/vst's (It's okay I use this together?)
SECOND HDD: recordings

2) Buy 2 external SSD drives that I connect directly to my computer.

I really like to buy a NAS but don't know if it's gonna work "fast enough"?

Thanks before!
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Originally Posted by Show View Post
Hello everybody,

I have 2 questions:

1) I want to buy an iMac 2017, but can decide between 2 models.

Which one you guys think is the best for me?
I produce EDM music and use plugins like Nexus, Sylenth, iZotope, Neutron, ...
My main DAW is Logic X.

2) I read that it's important to move my samples, VST's and recordings to an external hard drive.

I can't decide what's the best choice:

1) Buy a NAS with 2 slots with 2TB hard disks.
MAIN: DAW & old projects
FIRST HDD: Samples/vst's (It's okay I use this together?)
SECOND HDD: recordings

2) Buy 2 external SSD drives that I connect directly to my computer.

I really like to buy a NAS but don't know if it's gonna work "fast enough"?

Thanks before!
My suggestions...
If you have the $$$ get the machine with the most powerful processor, then upgrade storage and RAM yourself for less $$$ than what Apple charges (assuming you're comfortable with doing the upgrades). The only caveat there being the ease of upgrading the SSD... I'm not too familiar with newer imacs enough to know what that takes. I will say that 256GB is laughable though. I'm not even sure how they can sell a machine with that little storage. The OS alone will probably be over 100GB once you get all of your stuff installed (without sound libraries).

Second, NAS performance depends on which RAID type you set the drives up as, the speed of the drives themselves, and what kind of connection you have going to/from it.

I have a Qnap NAS that I use for video editing at work that has no trouble keeping up with 4k (but it's also on a 10GB network connection)... so audio would not be an issue in any way. I also use a Synology for general file storage. This would probably work fine too for audio in the right configuration.

However, a good NAS is not cheap... and you don't want to skimp on the drives you're using either. If you have the $$$ and are willing to spend, there's no real downside (and you can even create some redundancy for file back up).

There's nothing wrong with tethering a couple external drives off of a thunderbolt connection either. That's actually what I typically do with my audio production work (sound libraries on 1 drive, and save files/work from the other).
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Thanks for the answer!

You have some recommendation for hard drives?
Which are good for audio and reliable? (because they are always on)
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Thanks for the answer!

You have some recommendation for hard drives?
Which are good for audio and reliable? (because they are always on)
I always go with Western Digital Black drives. 5 year warranty. I had one crash at about 4 years and 8 months and they shipped me a replacement in about a week. Make sure you have a backup solution as well. Drives crash.

I'd also suggest an SSD for storing sample libraries.
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I think the fastest and best way is to buy 1 or 2 Thunderbolt SSD hard drives.
But can't decide which setup/structure is the best:

First
Internal: OS, DAW, VSTs
Ext. SSD: Samples, Recording

Second
Internal: OS, DAW
Ext. SSD 1: VSTs & Samples
Ext. SSD 2: Recording

Is setup 2 overkill or is it really a big difference?
Do you have another recommendation about the structure?
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I think the fastest and best way is to buy 1 or 2 Thunderbolt SSD hard drives.
But can't decide which setup/structure is the best:

First
Internal: OS, DAW, VSTs
Ext. SSD: Samples, Recording

Second
Internal: OS, DAW
Ext. SSD 1: VSTs & Samples
Ext. SSD 2: Recording

Is setup 2 overkill or is it really a big difference?
Do you have another recommendation about the structure?
The VST's should still reside on the OS drive. It's only the sample libraries that should be moved to an external. If the VST doesn't use samples it relies on CPU instead of drive speed anyway.

I'd like to see the difference between having the samples and audio on the same SSD vs having a drive dedicated to each. I imagine they would perform similarly.
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Thanks for the answer!

Maybe somebody can give an answer on the last question?
Old 3 days ago
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Also interested in this. Is NAS the only option to have an external enclosure that has multiple drives and have the drives all seen as individual drives in OSX?
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Also interested in this. Is NAS the only option to have an external enclosure that has multiple drives and have the drives all seen as individual drives in OSX?
There are many USB, TB, and Firewire enclosures that allow multiple drives to be installed and seen as individual drives. A NAS system isn't necessary if you only need to mount the drives on one computer. It's more for storage that is to be shared over a network.
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