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Old 21st December 2016
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My mac pro is deceased.....need help moving forward!!!

sup sluts.....so.....the day i swore would never happen finally happened.....my mac pro is now dead.

mind you it was an older computer, i bought it in like 07, 08......i was running snow leopard an running PT 9.......why didn't i change it? Idk, i'm one of those "if it ain't broke don't fix it" kinds.......I upgraded my OS awhile back and it was a huge pain in the arse having to then upgrade my protools, Maschine software, plug ins, etc......so i decided to just rock with it as is........

although i've now lost a lot of photos and other priceless things on my main hard drive (having complications with time machine backup) thank god i still have my music backed up on an external.....

According to the 3rd party diagnosis my hard drive is shot and I need to buy a new Mac......my question is, considering what I was running, what would be the best computer to buy?? Specifically, I need to know the minimum requirements for Ram, Hard drive an all the specs to be able to run protools without any problems.....

Also, if i upgraded to the latest version of protools, I wouldn't have any problems opening up my older protools 9 sessions correct??

thanks and happy holidays to all...!
Old 21st December 2016
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Two problems with going from PT9 to PT12 (latest version) RTAS plug-ins and sessions not saved in a way that is readable. If your plug-ins have both AAX and RTAS versions without having to pay an upgrade price, you should be fine. However, that was a bit of a problem for me going from 10 to 11.

The compatibility may not be a problem if you stick with a Mac, but if you switch to a PC and didn't save with compatibility enabled, you will have a problem opening the projects. The audio files are still there, but you will basically have to drag and drop them into the new session. And hopefully they line up. But you won't have the plug-in setups or anything.

But other than that, PT12 is pretty good and with the newer computers? I hardly ever have a freeze/crash anymore. You may want to think about getting a refurbished Mac that will allow you to run 9, but really, PT 12 opens my old PT6 projects that were properly saved without a problem. It just disables the plug-ins I no longer have.
Old 21st December 2016
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If only the system drive is shot, why not just replace it? An SSD would be great in that machine, and since its older you can get by with something less cutting edge. Sandisk Ultra II, Crucial MX300, Mushkin Reactor are all great options and 512GB - 1TB are affordable in these models.
Old 21st December 2016
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I agree with Valis, a new drive should be able to keep you going.
Aside from that, if you really want those pictures back, you can send the drive to a specialist (there are hundreds of them in all price ranges) to get data restored to another drive. Only the physically damaged sectors may not be repairable, the rest usually is.

Also, when buying PT12, you also get a license for 10 & 11, so with v10 you can open your PT9 sessions with RTAS without issues. You can install PT10 next to PT12, at least on Windows but I'm sure that works on OSX as well (depending on PT version OS support).
Old 21st December 2016
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I agree with Valis, a new drive should be able to keep you going.
Aside from that, if you really want those pictures back, you can send the drive to a specialist (there are hundreds of them in all price ranges) to get data restored to another drive. Only the physically damaged sectors may not be repairable, the rest usually is.

Also, when buying PT12, you also get a license for 10 & 11, so with v10 you can open your PT9 sessions with RTAS without issues. You can install PT10 next to PT12, at least on Windows but I'm sure that works on OSX as well (depending on PT version OS support).
This is true, as long as you stay with a Mac. The Mac to Windows has given me problems going from PT8 to PT 10/12. When saving on the older PT versions you have to check enforce Mac/PC compatibility or it is not readable.

But really Valis and DAWPlus are right. If everything else works, a new drive should be all you need.
Old 21st December 2016
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Your right, i think for now a refurbished mac would be best so i can run PT 9.....that way i can go through my sessions and bounce the tracks with plug ins before actually upgrading to PT 12 and all that. - As far as those drives, how much do those run and wheres the best place to get one?? Can you drop some links?? really appreciate the help, thank you again.....!
Old 21st December 2016
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Also, when buying PT12, you also get a license for 10 & 11, so with v10 you can open your PT9 sessions with RTAS without issues. You can install PT10 next to PT12, at least on Windows but I'm sure that works on OSX as well (depending on PT version OS support).
Very good point there.

My advice is that once you get "back on your feet", start the process of migrating forward thru the version... at least get to 10, then move up to 12.

Keep in mind the OS/other dependabilities.

I know it may be difficult to stay current, but it easier if you move forward incrementally.

Things are moving so fast with computers and software -- you cannot afford to fall behind anymore -- but it does make sense to let others jump on the bandwagon first, and wait for the helpful blog articles to roll in on the Internet!
Old 21st December 2016
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As far as those drives, how much do those run and wheres the best place to get one?? Can you drop some links?? really appreciate the help, thank you again.....!
If you find selecting and installing an appropriate drive difficult, I'd suggest taking your machine to a regular computer repair shop. They should be able to help you.
Old 21st December 2016
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Hackintosh? I have one built off an Asus MB and i7-3930K. You'll have to spend some time making it work though.
Old 22nd December 2016
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Your right, i think for now a refurbished mac would be best so i can run PT 9.....that way i can go through my sessions and bounce the tracks with plug ins before actually upgrading to PT 12 and all that. - As far as those drives, how much do those run and wheres the best place to get one?? Can you drop some links?? really appreciate the help, thank you again.....!
I buy a lot of my hard drives from Amazon. Check the reviews first. YouTube should have videos on how to do it. Just search for your model and changing hard drive. I know it can't be too hard because people have been changing drives on macs for years - at least until now.

I change mine every so often but I have an HP so it will be different.
Old 22nd December 2016
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Hackintosh? I have one built off an Asus MB and i7-3930K. You'll have to spend some time making it work though.
With all respect, OP doesn't seem to know where to buy HDDs/SSDs, so I am pretty sure building a hackintosh is the last thing he should try. A new drive should do the trick if only the HDD is dead, if the Mac itself is irrepairable, a refurb MacPro tower is probably the best thing in his situation.
Old 22nd December 2016
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And, if a refurb Mac Pro is the best choice for the OP, I'd recommend:

Buy & Sell Refurbished & Used Mac Products | mac of all trades

They offer warranties, and good options.
Old 22nd December 2016
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According to the 3rd party diagnosis my hard drive is shot and I need to buy a new Mac......
As said by others here : pop in a new HD and keep it going.

Here at the studio we still have a first gen Mac Pro Quad 3GHz with Snow Leopard for backup/tracking/editing duties, 4 years ago the main drive broke, and a Mac repair guy told us to, of course, buy a new Mac Pro.

An independent Apple specialist whom we tasked to recover the data off the drive told me literally : Macpros are like tractors : one component breaks, you just replace it and it'll work for much longer than Apple'd want.

Replace your HD with an SSD, and it's almost a new computer.
Replace your recording/mix drive with a 10000rpm drive and enjoy an even faster ride.

If you're happy with Snow Lep - imho to this day the most stable, glitch free OS X -and don't need more processing power, newer software, you might still squeeze some mileage out of the beast this way.
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