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Emulating(ish) NS10/MixCubes via EQ... Equalizer Plugins
Old 30th November 2016
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Emulating(ish) NS10/MixCubes via EQ...

It would be incredibly handy (and cheaper) to be able to toggle an EQ on/off to 'see' the mix in a different light, rather than adding physical hardware.

I'm running PMC TwoTwo 8s, PMC Sub 2 and Sonarworks Reference 3 (treated room), and have been considering grabbing some MixCubes or even NS10s for A/B mixing, specifically for the midrange.

How viable is it to emulate—as such—these kinds of speakers via a custom EQ (DMG Equilibrium)?

If it is possible—albeit even roughly—assuming you have a flat EQ (for arguments sake, not empirically), where would you boost, cut and pass?
Old 30th November 2016
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There's actually a built-in simulation of the NS-10 in Sonarworks. This is a much more precise simulation than what you might achieve with a standard EQ like Equilibrium. Having never used NS-10s, I can't really say how well this approximates the feel of mixing with them (there's more to studio monitors than frequency response). As an occasional reference, it's probably fine.
Old 30th November 2016
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There's actually a built-in simulation of the NS-10 in Sonarworks. This is a much more precise simulation than what you might achieve with a standard EQ like Equilibrium. Having never used NS-10s, I can't really say how well this approximates the feel of mixing with them (there's more to studio monitors than frequency response). As an occasional reference, it's probably fine.
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Old 1st December 2016
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Looks neat, will demo it - thanks!
Old 1st December 2016
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Barefoot also emulates NS10's, as well as Avantones I believe. Not sure how accurate it is.
Old 1st December 2016
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Part of what makes the NS10s and mixcubes work so well and translate is their fast time domain.
Old 1st December 2016
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Part of what makes the NS10s and mixcubes work so well and translate is their fast time domain.
Tempted to still grab a mixcube for mono testing.
Old 1st December 2016
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Tempted to still grab a mixcube for mono testing.
Do it, they're not only great for testing but actually mixing on.
Old 1st December 2016
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Do it, they're not only great for testing but actually mixing on.
I meant mixing too :-) Will probably pull the trigger today!

Might grab two though, stereo mixing with them could be useful.
Old 1st December 2016
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NS10's and cubes from whatever manufacturer are completely different beasts and useful for entirely different reasons and tasks.

The cubes largely depend on not having a crossover in the mids you are trying to balance, which makes them great for that task, translating to pretty much everything. Also not something you can emulate with eq........
Old 1st December 2016
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I'll second Karloff70, it's kind of impossible to emulate with eq - the transient response is just not there. All you get with EQ is the bandwidth limitation and that's just part of the picture.

Having said that, Audified's plug-in gets pretty close. I find useful to check compatibility on mobile phones and TVs.
Old 5th December 2016
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Get the speakers as has been said. The plugins will in one sense bring you farther away from the value of the NS10s as they will pull you farther away, if anything, from the transient accuracy of those units which is a big part of their appeal.
Old 5th December 2016
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