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How these midi usb controllers work with midi out? Rackmount Synthesizers
Old 2nd July 2016
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How these midi usb controllers work with midi out?

Hey guys, maybe a dumb question...

I'm looking to get a new midi controller and was looking at the new Alesis VI...it has usb out for midi but then a 5-pin midi out...So my question is...Can I send midi out from my DAW that would come out of the 5 pin midi out on the Alesis? Like, I have a matrix 1000, and have Obie Editor, so I need to be able to play and record the midi from the Alesis, and then play back that info out of my DAW back into the Matrix 1000, and use the Obie Editor which will send midi info out of my computer, and into the Matrix 1000. I'm a little confused if this is possible through a keyboard (Alesis) or do I need a dedicated midi box? Thanks again...

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Old 2nd July 2016
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To get midi from computer to Oberheim you will need a separate midi interface.

The midi and usb on the controller keyboard will be output (from keyboard - to computer) only.
Old 2nd July 2016
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To get midi from computer to Oberheim you will need a separate midi interface.

The midi and usb on the controller keyboard will be output (from keyboard - to computer) only.
Yea but the Alesis has a separate 5-pin midi out to control other keyboards, in addition to a usb midi out that you connect directly to the computer.
Old 2nd July 2016
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Exactly....these are both outputs.

There is no midi in so there's no way to get midi in to the Alesis let alone pass it through to the Oberheim.
Old 2nd July 2016
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Exactly....these are both outputs.

There is no midi in so there's no way to get midi in to the Alesis let alone pass it through to the Oberheim.
Yea....? But normally I have my keyboard controller into midi interface then out of my Daw/ midi out into the matrix ...the Alesis doesn't act like a midi interface? When I do it this way there's no midi going ini my keyboard controller either.
Old 3rd July 2016
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No the Alesis doesn't act like an interface.
Old 3rd July 2016
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the midi output on the Alesis should show up as midi output in DAW ... then it is just midi to use after that ..
Old 3rd July 2016
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the midi output on the Alesis should show up as midi output in DAW ... then it is just midi to use after that ..
So is stella645 wrong then? I'm confused
Old 3rd July 2016
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that is not what i said ... i said "Should Show up" ... but no worries ...

from the Alesis VI user guide .. by this the OP should be good to go ..

If an external device is connected to the MIDI Out, your computer can send MIDI messages via USB to the VI49, which will then send the message to the external device

http://5a18fcdc5c8aa2617926-54d68a14...Guide-v1.0.pdf






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So is stella645 wrong then? I'm confused
Old 3rd July 2016
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that is not what i said ... i said "Should Show up" ... but no worries ...

from the Alesis VI user guide .. by this the OP should be good to go ..

If an external device is connected to the MIDI Out, your computer can send MIDI messages via USB to the VI49, which will then send the message to the external device

http://5a18fcdc5c8aa2617926-54d68a14...Guide-v1.0.pdf
No way! Thanks a bunch I did look through the manual but it was like five pages...maybe it was the quick start manual?
Old 3rd July 2016
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page 5 near the End ... it is under the USB part ... hope it helps a little .. cheers john


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No way! Thanks a bunch I did look through the manual but it was like five pages...maybe it was the quick start manual?
Old 3rd July 2016
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page 5 near the End ... it is under the USB part ... hope it helps a little .. cheers john
Yup thanks it's the exact answer...I figured it acted like an interface in a way by sending midi out from the DAW through the keyboard and out through the midi out...but the other guy who posted made me doubt
Old 3rd July 2016
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I do apologise....I read the product page but not the manual and there was no mention of 2 way connection over USB and they were described as outs.

Would have thought they would have been using this as a selling point rather than hiding it in the manual.
Old 4th July 2016
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I do apologise....I read the product page but not the manual and there was no mention of 2 way connection over USB and they were described as outs.

Would have thought they would have been using this as a selling point rather than hiding it in the manual.
I know! I believed you because I didn't read it anywhere either, but I'm glad we're both wrong.
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