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Reaper sounds better than Foobar?! Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 19th October 2015
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Reaper sounds better than Foobar?!

Hey all,

I could be completely imagining this, but I could swear there is a considerable difference between playing a Flac file in Reaper, and playing the same file in Foobar. Cant really think of a way of testing this, I don't think bouncing will have the same effect, and I doubt two RTA recordings would null but still, there's a definite difference.

Is this possible?

Peace
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Old 19th October 2015
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Probably not. There is probably a null test that can prove (don't know how though) or maybe a volume difference. That plays tricks with peoples heads more than anything else.

EDIT, I like your avatar
Old 20th October 2015
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Hey Wizard,
most likely it won't sound different under same conditions.
Difference is, Reaper most probably access your interface directly via ASIO (completely bypassing windows audio stack.. mixing, resampling - running at native sample rate, no possible enhancements etc.), while Foobar with its default settings use Windows Direct Sound..

To have fair comparison, I would recommend to install ASIO output plugin to your Foobar2000..
https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_out_asio
and set it same way as in Reaper

Sometimes, this isn't really viable option, because each application, which uses ASIO driver have exclusive access to interface and unless its driver supports true multiclient access (for instance RME).. You can't play in Foobar while your driver is still accessed by DAW.
To overcome this, either check option in Reaper preferences / Audio / Close audio device when stopped and application is inactive (that way, when you minimize Reaper to taskbar, it will release ASIO driver) or ditch external player completely and preview your files (assuming, you want to listen mainly to your exported files) directly in Reaper's Media Explorer, which is quite handy for such tasks.

Michal
Old 20th October 2015
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Originally Posted by msmucr View Post
Hey Wizard,
most likely it won't sound different under same conditions.
Difference is, Reaper most probably access your interface directly via ASIO (completely bypassing windows audio stack.. mixing, resampling - running at native sample rate, no possible enhancements etc.), while Foobar with its default settings use Windows Direct Sound..

To have fair comparison, I would recommend to install ASIO output plugin to your Foobar2000..
https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_out_asio
and set it same way as in Reaper

Sometimes, this isn't really viable option, because each application, which uses ASIO driver have exclusive access to interface and unless its driver supports true multiclient access (for instance RME).. You can't play in Foobar while your driver is still accessed by DAW.
To overcome this, either check option in Reaper preferences / Audio / Close audio device when stopped and application is inactive (that way, when you minimize Reaper to taskbar, it will release ASIO driver) or ditch external player completely and preview your files (assuming, you want to listen mainly to your exported files) directly in Reaper's Media Explorer, which is quite handy for such tasks.

Michal
Didn't think of that! I run foobar with ASIO drivers on my studio laptop but not this one. I'll try that and see if I can spot a difference.
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