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Semi Modular Workhorse Centerpiece -- ARP 2600?
Old 16th January 2020
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Semi Modular Workhorse Centerpiece -- ARP 2600?

Where to start. I'm mostly an ambient and drone producer/composer. I do a lot of generative work (long looping tape delays, quantized sample & hold random chord generation, etc). My primary instruments are Eurorack, MS-20 mini and Ableton. I have a number of semi modular synthesizers (the afore mentioned MS-20 mini, a Minibrute, a Microbrute, a Werkstatt) and a bunch of Moogerfoogers. I like to use these as a giant modular system.

Going forward, I'm looking to move away from some of these standalone synths and move towards a more complete, holistic Eurorack-Ableton setup. But I realize what I really want in addition to that is a single, master, holy grail centerpiece semi-modular. For a couple of years, I've been eyeing the Oberheim Two Voice Pro, but it's now out of production and second-hand prices seem to be skyrocketing. Either way, it's hard to get a hold of. With Korg announcing the ARP 2600, I'm very much leaning towards it. But I have questions.

The price aside, is it worth it? It feels like its the kind of thing where I won't regret it. Is that true? I love how modular it can be: it has distinct sections that can be broken out and used as utilities with my Eurorack (something I think it beats the Two Voice Pro in, change my mind). It's got super classic voicing and sounds and a look that can't be beat. I love the gravitas it has. That's a big thing for me: it just looks the part. I love the verticality (another thing it has over the TVP): it screams "play with me, touch me, use me."

Is there another option for me? Something that checks off at least most of these boxes:

- semi-modular
- v/oct, not hz/v
- vertical
- has a keyboard
- has breakout modules to be used as utilities with other instruments
- has some sort of sequencer or arpeggiator
- has some ability to control VCOs independently of keyboard or built-in sequencer (ie, I can CV the VCO from an external sequencer AND route the output of that VCO to my Eurorack, completely bypassing the internal wiring of the synth)
- has built-in analog effects
- sounds amazing

Any ideas?
Old 16th January 2020
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I think they've already all been sold.
It wouldn't be my first choice for ambient, but it is great for audio processing and fx. In the 90's I used mine at the centre of a Eurorack system, but I was mostly making melodic music.
The spring reverb is great, as is the audio input.
Old 16th January 2020
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Maybe a Telemark? My first thought when it comes to getting a centerpiece that you can part out is the Neutron, tbh.
Old 16th January 2020
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Maybe a Telemark? My first thought when it comes to getting a centerpiece that you can part out is the Neutron, tbh.
Old 17th January 2020
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Aion Modular Model 15, or an AJH MiniMod with some (all) of the expansion modules. MakeNoise shared system seems like it's born for droney ****. Buchla Music Easel. These are all kinda around that same price point give or take 1K
Old 17th January 2020
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Yeah, I would go with a Buchla Easel or the new 208 Command module.
Or on the cheaper end a Neutron.
Old 17th January 2020
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Don’t worry about 2600 sold out, I think Korg will make more and even if they don’t I’d bet my house they are going to make a smaller version the clue is in the name “FS” why call it that if you have no other sizes in your range.
Old 17th January 2020
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Originally Posted by cane creek View Post
Don’t worry about 2600 sold out, I think Korg will make more and even if they don’t I’d bet my house they are going to make a smaller version the clue is in the name “FS” why call it that if you have no other sizes in your range.
That and it's on Behringer's list, so it'll come out eventually.
Old 17th January 2020
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Oberheim TVS Pro or MFB Dominion 1, the latter is my choice as a control center for modular and it works great. But frankly if you have a decent midi to cv converter then you can use just about any keyboard if all you want is to play scales with your modular. The 2600 looks fun, did they make it duophonic?
Old 17th January 2020
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OB Two Voice is fairly raw and plain analogue, like the 2600. Not my go to for ambient or esoteric.
Old 20th January 2020
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The 208c is definitely pretty cool:

Old 22nd January 2020
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Moog GM / Matriarch?
Old 23rd January 2020
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If you want to go modular, why not just go full modular? If you break down the 2600 into its basic components you can use that as a jumping off point to designing your modular. Honestly, once you go fully modular, semi-modulars seem like a bit of a half-step/compromise.
Old 3 weeks ago
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This is what I use...

Oberheim TVS Pro
Moog Voyager XL
Old 2 weeks ago
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i would sell all other stuff than the eurorack and just get good modules. its gonna sound better with modules than standalone synths. and you can get just what you want.
Old 2 weeks ago
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Personally, I'm leaning towards the Matriarch. It just seems a nice fit with my modular rig.
Certainly there will be some redundancy going on with semi to fully modular. But each
should provide much functionality to the other. The Moog is basically a modular rig with
a built in fatar keybed, so it's not really a far stretch from what I already have. Definitely,
having an all in one unit appeals to me, as I often find it tedious to have to bounce around
my entire modular rig to create complete signal path for each oscillator (E.g. vca, env, trigger etc).
That's awesome to be able to do that, but needing to do it every single time, for even simple
voices is a bit tiresome. Having something like the Matriarch with everything already in place
and only needing adjustment seems pretty damn handy to me. And it can do all that while
sounding great in its own rite. I plan to acquire one or two complete synth voice modules
as well to extend availability of that kind of functionality even further.

Anyway, I see it as a solid foundation to build upon with all the cool unique and interesting eurorack devices
that I may procure. It often seems like a waste to use those for much of the simpler stuff anyway.

It would leave some modern fixed arch synth "itches" unscratched for me, like preset recall, polyphony
etc. I suppose I will still want something else down the road.
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