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Replacing Maths - Marbles, Tempi or Planar2? Modular Synthesizers
Old 12th March 2019
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Replacing Maths - Marbles, Tempi or Planar2?

Hello all, longtime lurker here and I would appreciate some expertise please.

I have a full 2 x 84HP rack that currently includes Maths which I want to replace.

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/rack...rid_761710.jpg


I want to make the rack more performance oriented. I use both a Synthstrom Deluge and a Minibrute2S for sequencing and extra CV. My music set begins in ambient mode and warms up to more rhythmic lounge, jazz house grooves as the night wears on. Hence I gravitate from the Modular to the Deluge which can then drive the modular harder!!
I don't consider Maths the right tool for performance as it requires too much pre-meditation to get the most out of patches. I mainly use it as a simple LFO. I need something more immediate and useful.

Also it will help if the new module drives the BitBox which has plenty of samples and CV inputs.

So I have been looking at adding more clocks and random CV. My current three faves are Tempi, Marbles and Planar2. All are tweakable with the Planar being most expressive. But I like that Marbles can also add some extra melody. Preferences or any others I should look at?

All responses appreciated :-)

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Old 12th March 2019
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What about a Bastl CV Trinity? It's six function generators that work as either synced LFO's, envelopes, or knob movement recorders.
Old 13th March 2019
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What about a Bastl CV Trinity? It's six function generators that work as either synced LFO's, envelopes, or knob movement recorders.
Thx Derp. Yep that's one I'd forgotten about. So I hit the Ewetoobs today. It's a complex beast. I'll have to RTFM to understand how easy it works live :-)
Old 15th March 2019
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What about a Bastl CV Trinity? It's six function generators that work as either synced LFO's, envelopes, or knob movement recorders.
I got interested in this myself (mostly for LFO duties) but on a quick look it seems to be digital: grungy and people are doing anti-aliasing mods. Doesn't seem to be my thing. I knew this was too good to be true. Or maybe I'm judging it too quickly.

The 4ms pingable LFO seems pretty good though.

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Old 15th March 2019
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To each their own. The Trinity is digital, but I like it.
Old 15th March 2019
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I'm no purist and digital voltage generation is fine by me. Now if I can maintain the voice I am modulating/triggering as analogue then that is preferred. Cause that's the bit I hear :-)

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The 4ms pingable LFO seems pretty good though.
And yes I like the 4MS pingable LFO too.
Old 16th March 2019
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To each their own. The Trinity is digital, but I like it.
Yeah - and I admit being quite picky and maybe even prejudiced in this regard. I do like digital oscs and efx, but not modulation.

I'm also looking into the option of three or four Ladik LFO type modules instead of a bigger all in one. For 4 Ladik modules the price and HP is not much more than, say a (digital) Batumi, but very versatile.
Old 18th March 2019
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Yep I have Ladik LFOs on the list. Best value for money by far :-)
Old 19th March 2019
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What about a Bastl CV Trinity? It's six function generators that work as either synced LFO's, envelopes, or knob movement recorders.
I like this one. Powerful and flexible. And the demo video is amusing.
Old 24th March 2019
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Yes I like it too. Should buy it just to support the video-making :-)
Old 2nd April 2019
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And the winners...?

Well after going around in a few samples I realised that all those previous options were clock/cv related that still required another voice or I would have to free up an existing.
So I thought what can mangle and chop some audio all in one unit? And I ended up with the Nebulae V2 from Qu-Bit. Morphagene looked good but was more expensive and too big for my saturated rack. I have also had to add a 2HP random voltage generator to get some rhythm into it but I mainly just use it freestyle.

And it works!! I am building "Nebulae Breaks" into the set.

For example Plaits has two outputs so I take the main out as usual and then take the aux output to Nebulae and either play it live or record and loop.

So lots of hands on variation :-) Happy!!
Old 2nd April 2019
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Well after going around in a few samples I realised that all those previous options were clock/cv related that still required another voice or I would have to free up an existing.
So I thought what can mangle and chop some audio all in one unit? And I ended up with the Nebulae V2 from Qu-Bit. Morphagene looked good but was more expensive and too big for my saturated rack. I have also had to add a 2HP random voltage generator to get some rhythm into it but I mainly just use it freestyle.

And it works!! I am building "Nebulae Breaks" into the set.

For example Plaits has two outputs so I take the main out as usual and then take the aux output to Nebulae and either play it live or record and loop.

So lots of hands on variation :-) Happy!!
Congrats! I'm interested in the Nebulae too, because I love the Clouds and would like to have different falvours of that type of thing. How is the sound quality? Clouds sounds very 'digital' but mostly in a good way.
Old 3rd April 2019
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Congrats! I'm interested in the Nebulae too, because I love the Clouds and would like to have different falvours of that type of thing. How is the sound quality? Clouds sounds very 'digital' but mostly in a good way.
Ta :-) Sound quality on samples is superb as expected. The recorded sample/loop is a bit hard to control volume wise so I intend to route it through an attenuator.

One annoying aspect is not being able to punch in or out. It's always on! So if I want a quick mute I need two hands on the VCA. I might need DivKid's Mute :-)
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