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Old 6th November 2018
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What I really would like to see is a cheap eurorack implementation of 4-voice polyphony. (Hi folks, first post here!)
Old 16th November 2018
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then the mSSP is maybe something to consider
What is the mSSP (micro-SSP)? - mSSP Kickstarter - Percussa Forum
Old 26th November 2018
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@ Uli Behringer :I want them ALL yesterday. Straight after I buy the Moog, Neutron and Sequential. And the Korg Arp.

First, I kiss your Lotus Feet for asking us what we want and for giving us what we want inexpensively.

Your vision of offering something that people could collect payday by payday is fantastic.

I'm not terribly interested in the gear of the past, apart from a Eurorack OB-X copy. Why should we presume that the designers of the 1960's and '70's were the only ones who could create great analogue synths, as if they were Ancient Egyptians cutting stone with incomprehensible accuracy and grace? Those people were making synths for the music of their time. People have been there. I want instruments for the music of our time, made with all the knowledge we have gained since.

Let's proceed logically.

Firstly we need modular cases. They should be light, aluminum, be able to accommodate about 5 kg of instruments each, be connectedly and securely stackable, have identical optional internal power supplies in grades of 4,6, or 8. They should have robust handles. For those who are building home systems, the handles should be easily removable - perhaps recessed for stacking - and the panels should be designed in such a way that 3rd-party modders can easily slide in wooden or 3D-printed sides, Behringer supplying cheap but handsome plastic panel inserts. Behringer is a nice name for music gear, how did you come up with it?

Then we need an additive module like the one below, a subtractive module, an FM module - we don't have to be analogue fanatics - a granular module, a small noise add-on, a drone module, an ambient module with wind, crickets, thunder, toads, all that XOXOS stuff, and a wavetabler and sampler. That's 10 Source modules unless we want to get into phase distortion or something. Some of those could be quite small. Next we get a filter module, and here we can turn to the classic Moog, a sequencer and arpeggiator, and finally a sophisticated envelope module with midi controller and an FX unit. The LFOs would be achieved through octave settings on each module. For those who like rhythmical bangs we could add a small and a large rhythmical bang module for, after all, we do not want such folk to be reduced to crashing dustbin lids together as in the past. That's 15 or so altogether taking up 3 or 5 cases.

Each module should have an easily-removable front panel and knobs so that people can mod them.

That should add up to about $1000 roughly altogether and it would be able to do almost anything. It should be simple and intuitive because what actually keeps people away from Eurorack is the incomprehensible boxes.

By the time people have worked through that, they will know what they are doing and whether they need or want to add exotica.

If you want to build up the line in future you can add 'Lifestyle' modules - Goth, Sci-Fi, Metal, Industrial, Dance, Cringe-inducing pop, all those. Starters with everything on, but a direction.

Thanks
Tom Kent/My Melbourne Down.
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Old 3rd December 2018
  #694
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Hi Uli, I'm beyond excited about these proposed modules ! Please add some cv to the mixer levels and pans ! Please don't be put off by people who don't want to actually make any music and regard "subtractive synthesis" as a bad thing. I'll buy all the modules at €99 each, in fact I'll buy several vcos and any variations of the filters you produce
Old 23rd December 2018
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How about modules that are digital like mutable instruments? Or modules based on west coast synthesis like Buchla, or Make Noise.
Old 24th December 2018
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A Behringer 2-Voice in Eurorack format?

This is pure speculation but what would you think of a clone of the Oberheim 2-Voice? It's one of my favourite synth and it's got such a big and warm sound, but unfortunately it's completely out of reach for me - not to mention the 8-Voice..!

If enough of us were interested and asked Behringer, perhaps he'd make it happen?

I've made a mockup of what it could look like. Imagine this one polychained for those truly massive 8-Voice sounds!

Behringer Eurorack Modular-artboard-1-2-voice.jpg

Wishing you a happy and off-white Christmas!
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Old 25th December 2018
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What happened to the Behringer System-100?
Uli, give us an update!
Old 25th December 2018
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What happened to the Behringer System-100?
Uli, give us an update!
I had a custom case made just for them, but I may have to fill them with Roland 500 modules instead.
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Old 26th December 2018
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I would love to see Tom Oberheim stayed in bussiness .
Old 28th December 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinakroon View Post
This is pure speculation but what would you think of a clone of the Oberheim 2-Voice? It's one of my favourite synth and it's got such a big and warm sound, but unfortunately it's completely out of reach for me - not to mention the 8-Voice..!

If enough of us were interested and asked Behringer, perhaps he'd make it happen?

I've made a mockup of what it could look like. Imagine this one polychained for those truly massive 8-Voice sounds!



Wishing you a happy and off-white Christmas!
Nice mockups, but imo a 2 two voice in this form does not make much sense.

I own a Oberheim 2 voice and for modular uses i often wish them to be more seperated.

So my choice would be a proper CV SEM. And then you connect as many as you like.

But all of that should only happen after Tom Oberheim officially retired from making them himself or gave his permission. There is a line of decency involved that i would not like to see crossed.
Old 28th December 2018
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Nice mockups, but imo a 2 two voice in this form does not make much sense.

But all of that should only happen after Tom Oberheim officially retired from making them himself or gave his permission. There is a line of decency involved that i would not like to see crossed.
I agree
Old 29th December 2018
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I would love to see Tom Oberheim stayed in bussiness .
Yes, that sure would be great. But I doubt that the potential presence of inexpensive SEM clones would seriously threaten his sales of handcrafted signature collectors items. If you can afford one of those instruments you'd get one - just for the history of it if nothing else. (That's presuming he'd start making them again, as they're currently unavailable.)

On the flip side, I can't really see a whole lot of people getting eight of those SEMs (at €1500 a piece) to build a modern 8-Voice. An affordable 2-Voice clone could allow regular musicians to get hold of their very own 8-voice system.
Old 29th December 2018
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Originally Posted by Coorec View Post
Nice mockups, but imo a 2 two voice in this form does not make much sense.

I own a Oberheim 2 voice and for modular uses i often wish them to be more seperated.

So my choice would be a proper CV SEM. And then you connect as many as you like.
Thank you!

How do you mean more separated? You mean more CV in/outs? Or physically separated to different sides of a rack?

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But all of that should only happen after Tom Oberheim officially retired from making them himself or gave his permission. There is a line of decency involved that i would not like to see crossed.
I wasn't aware of him still making them. I couldn't find anyone who sells any of his SEMs, and his own website doesn't mention them at all.
Old 29th December 2018
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A few or so months ago Uli and I briefly discussed whether or not Behringer might carry on the production of SEMs after Tom no longer does (whenever that happens), and Uli mentioned that someone from B had already reached out to Tom but (at the time of our conversation) there was no news on that front. I don't recall whether a conversation with Tom actually happened or not, but they had tried - and nothing came from it.
Old 2nd January 2019
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How do you mean more separated? You mean more CV in/outs? Or physically separated to different sides of a rack?
The 2 voice is made from 4 different components.

1x keyboard (incl. the controllerbox)
1x Midi/CV interface
1x 2 track sequencer/Sample and Hold
2x SEM

The first 3 things are basically hardwired to the SEMs. So you cant really use either of them as independant modules.

For example. If i use a track of the sequencer to run a Model D, i lose a whole SEM with it, because the hardwired connection will trigger it to play the same line the model D is playing.

There are work arounds for many situations, and it is absolutely no problem for a synth concept like the 2-voice. But for modular use one would wish them to be more seperated or seperable to begin with.
Old 3rd January 2019
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Quote:
The 2 voice is made from 4 different components.

1x keyboard (incl. the controllerbox)
1x Midi/CV interface
1x 2 track sequencer/Sample and Hold
2x SEM


I know what you meant, but I laughed.
Old 3rd January 2019
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Originally Posted by Coorec View Post
The 2 voice is made from 4 different components.

1x keyboard (incl. the controllerbox)
1x Midi/CV interface
1x 2 track sequencer/Sample and Hold
2x SEM

The first 3 things are basically hardwired to the SEMs. So you cant really use either of them as independant modules.

For example. If i use a track of the sequencer to run a Model D, i lose a whole SEM with it, because the hardwired connection will trigger it to play the same line the model D is playing.

There are work arounds for many situations, and it is absolutely no problem for a synth concept like the 2-voice. But for modular use one would wish them to be more seperated or seperable to begin with.
Yes, I see your point. Let's hope any clones would have lots of CV in/outs to allow connecting to existing systems.
Old 3rd January 2019
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I know what you meant, but I laughed.
Yea, the SEM is only 1 different component, albeit available 2 times.
Probably a bit too much german clerk mindset for a creative board like ours here
Old 5th January 2019
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We have now completed the prototype of the first Module, the 110 VCO, VCF, VCA and there are 5 more in the immediate pipeline.

We're currently doing the testing and will hopefully be able to release them for production soon.

We're planning to launch close to 40 modules over the next 2 years at a suggested retail price between US$ 49 and 99 each.

Wouldn't it be great to see lots of people get into Eurorack and enjoy modular synthesis?

Fun stuff!

Uli
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Old 5th January 2019
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Cheers Uli, those are some exciting prices and glad to see so many modules in the pipeline

Don’t forget about the case/PSU/kb37 style requests too
Old 5th January 2019
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I literally can't wait to build my own Vince Clarke/Has Zimmer 100m wall.
Old 5th January 2019
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those knobs look mighty tight together. but I am hopeful... I am looking forward to these modules quite a bit. need some testing?
Old 5th January 2019
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Originally Posted by Uli Behringer View Post
We have now completed the prototype of the first Module, the 110 VCO, VCF, VCA and there are 5 more in the immediate pipeline.

We're currently doing the testing and will hopefully be able to release them for production soon.

We're planning to launch close to 40 modules over the next 2 years at a suggested retail price between US$ 49 and 99 each.

Wouldn't it be great to see lots of people get into Eurorack and enjoy modular synthesis?

Fun stuff!

Uli
I'll be happy to test 'em Uli. Just send me a PM.

Cheers.
Old 5th January 2019
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What about a Behringer-own case and power supply?
Old 5th January 2019
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Behringer System 100 Eurorack

Uli Behringer today shared an update on his company’s plans for a new line of inexpensive Eurorack modules – and they are bigger than what they have previously revealed.

Early in the year, Behringer shared his company’s plans for a line of 13 Eurorack modules, based on classic Roland System 100M designs. Now, Behringer says that they have 8 modules in the works and close to 40 planned:

We have now completed the prototype of the first Module, the 110 VCO, VCF, VCA and there are 5 more in the immediate pipeline.

We’re currently doing the testing and will hopefully be able to release them for production soon.

We’re planning to launch close to 40 modules over the next 2 years at a suggested retail price between US$ 49 and 99 each.

Wouldn’t it be great to see lots of people get into Eurorack and enjoy modular synthesis?

Fun stuff!

Uli

The company has only announced plans for its first 13 modules:

SYSTEM 100 174 PARAMETRIC EQ
SYSTEM 100 173 QUAD SIGNAL GATE/ PATCH BAY
SYSTEM 100 172 PHASE SHIFTER/AUDIO DELAY/GATE DELAY/LFO
SYSTEM 100 165 DUAL PORTAMENTO CONTROLLER
SYSTEM 100 150 RING MOD/NOISE/ S&H/LFO
SYSTEM 100 132 DUAL CV/AUDIO MIXER & CV GENERATOR
SYSTEM 100 131 MIXER/OSCILLATOR/ HEADPHONE AMP
SYSTEM 100 130 DUAL VCA
SYSTEM 100 121 DUAL VCF
SYSTEM 100 112 DUAL VCO
SYSTEM 100 182 ANALOG SEQUENCER
SYSTEM 100 140 DUAL ENVELOPE/LFO
SYSTEM 100 110 VCO/VCF/VCA


Source:
Behringer Plans 40 Eurorack Modules In The Next 2 Years, Priced at $49-99 – Synthtopia
Old 5th January 2019
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40 modules in 2 years is a lot.

I doubt that all of them will be clones so I am eager to see if there will be a few in-house developments and if so what such modules could do.
Old 5th January 2019
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Behringer System 100 – 110 VCO/VCF/VCA
Behringer System 100 – 112 DUAL VCO
Behringer System 100 – 121 DUAL VCF
Behringer System 100 – 130 DUAL VCA
Behringer System 100 – 131 MIXER/OSCILLATOR AMP
Behringer System 100 – 132 DUAL CV/AUDIO MIXER & CV GENERATOR
Behringer System 100 – 140 DUAL ENVELOPE/LFO
Behringer System 100 – 150 RING MOD/NOISE / S&G / LFO
Behringer System 100 – 165 DUAL PORTAMENTO CONTROLLER
Behringer System 100 – 172 PHASE-SHIFTER/ AUDIO DELAY / GATE DELAY / LFO
Behringer System 100 – 173 QUADS SIGNAL GATE / PATCH BAY
Behringer System 100 – 174 PARAMETRIC EQ
Behringer System 100 – 182 ANALOG SEQUENCER

Pictures : Behringer Plans 40 Eurorack Modules In The Next 2 Years, Priced at $49-99 – Synthtopia
Old 5th January 2019
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Other than the RD808, this is the first B I feel I MUST have.
Old 5th January 2019
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The source isn't Synthtopia, the source is in the Eurorack subforum of Gearslutz: Behringer Eurorack Modular
Old 5th January 2019
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40 modules in 2 years is a lot.

I doubt that all of them will be clones so I am eager to see if there will be a few in-house developments and if so what such modules could do.
Beyond remakes, I imagine they'll have their own takes on some basics/bread and butter stuff, and it would make sense for them to port some of their effects. I think these are the things they can do quickly.

Then maybe there's time left for more novel/esoteric modules.
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