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Old 7th January 2017
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Well, didn't want to let this patch go ... Qu-Bit Chords going into Frames w/ Parasite in euclidean mode, then patched into Clouds with freeze modulated with a 160-1. Modulating Chords with a Disting in the poor man's "PEG", clocked envelope mode.

Fine patch, love chord.
Old 7th January 2017
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Anyone have experience with magpie's mutable panels? I ordered a couple and the first one I tried (Branches) doesn't fit the retail version of the module I have. Guess I didn't think there would be a difference Nor does their website say anything about this. Are these panels not expected to fit the retail modules? I don't want to take apart another module to try another if that's the case.
Are we talking holes completely in the wrong place or just a fraction out ?
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UK dealers are still not stocking Lo-fi junkys
Old 7th January 2017
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If I can build up the courage to attempt an Ornament + Crime build, I could probably free up 24hp more, but we'll see.
SMD however Looks an easy enough build,at least theres no Arm chip which are a nightmare to solder (and program) it uses a Teensy instead which are easy to solder and also easy to program. Ive deliberately left my Loupe in the picture because if your going to get into SMD then you need one as you can easily find faults on solder joints that look ok in a magnifying glass.
On the second picture the chip that goes next to the teensy bottom left looks the most trickiest due to the size of leg spacing so that is the first thing id solder, plenty of flux and the solder will find a way.




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Old 7th January 2017
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You should have a serious look at Cold Mac as well. That is increasingly becoming the secret sauce in my patching-just don't ask me to explain it, because I am still pretty clueless about what it is doing! But I absolutely love patching CV into it and routing the outputs to things like Maths and the Batumi for some real FSU madness.
+1 on the Cold Mac. One of the great things about it is you can modulate audio and CV at the same time. I get so much use out of it.
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SMD however Looks an easy enough build,at least theres no Arm chip which are a nightmare to solder (and program) it uses a Teensy instead which are easy to solder and also easy to program. Ive deliberately left my Loupe in the picture because if your going to get into SMD then you need one as you can easily find faults on solder joints that look ok in a magnifying glass.
On the second picture the chip that goes next to the teensy bottom left looks the most trickiest due to the size of leg spacing so that is the first thing id solder, plenty of flux and the solder will find a way.




Indeed, that doesn't look to bad. Is it all 0805? And a loupe or some sort of magnifying contraption helps a ton with smd. I wear one of those visors that makes me look scary ridiculous and my dog freaks out.
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Sloths.....

I have a triple Sloth PCB ordered with the Korb PCB's in the February PCB run

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Indeed, that doesn't look to bad. Is it all 0805?
Yes 0805
Old 7th January 2017
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First of all thanks for your previous advice on some modules I should get to start doing self generating patches. I've taken this on board and I'm starting to shift my thinking from East Coast to West Coast synthesis methodology and been reading up on this.

I have a subtractive synthesis set up but what kind of modules do I need to supplement this and a couple I can get started with? I know there are plenty of varied and specialised modules but what are the essentials: a Low pass gate filter, AD / AR envelopes, a sequencer, clock divider, Waveshaper, Random Voltage Generators, Pitch Quantisers, Sequential Switches, Logic Modules? I thought I would start with a clock divider and LPG - what are the advantages of getting say an Optomix or Streams over a standard Doepfer one or am I okay just starting with basic modules which I think would give me a good (and cheap) appreciation of what they do. Doepfer, Ladik and Erica offer inexpensive options over MakeNoise, Intellijel, Mutable etc. I really need to be firmer on my GAS and have a planned schedule of just buying one module a month!

I found these articles interesting and useful.

https://reverb.com/uk/news/the-basic...oast-synthesis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvrxQbh6vAg

The genius of Don Buchla,*by the synth disciples he inspired

My rack so far (PS. I've loaded MI alternative firmware so have these to play with)
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/rack...rid_354272.jpg

I've been noodling with my new Theta module and it sounds really smooth, so much nicer and less harsh sounding than Maths which really surprised me.
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After checking i realised it was only the Panel i had ordered and its plastic

So I've ordered the triple sloth PCB/Aluminium panel from your link, thanks for pointing it out.
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Are we talking holes completely in the wrong place or just a fraction out ?
here's the back of the two panels. The stock panel has those 2 notches cut out. On the magpie panel, the indicator lights don't seem to clear the hole in the panel without those notches
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anyone else having issues with muff's? either can't log in or logs me out anytime I click on something.
site still isn't working for me, is anyone else having this issue or is it something with my login?
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site still isn't working for me, is anyone else having this issue or is it something with my login?
It seems to be working fine for me.
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It seems to be working fine for me.
thanks, issue seems to be confined to my home network. just started last night across all devices on my network. works fine over my cell network, so no idea what is happening. nothing has changed on my end and no other site is giving me any issues..
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First of all thanks for your previous advice on some modules I should get to start doing self generating patches. I've taken this on board and I'm starting to shift my thinking from East Coast to West Coast synthesis methodology and been reading up on this.

I have a subtractive synthesis set up but what kind of modules do I need to supplement this and a couple I can get started with? I know there are plenty of varied and specialised modules but what are the essentials: a Low pass gate filter, AD / AR envelopes, a sequencer, clock divider, Waveshaper, Random Voltage Generators, Pitch Quantisers, Sequential Switches, Logic Modules? I thought I would start with a clock divider and LPG - what are the advantages of getting say an Optomix or Streams over a standard Doepfer one or am I okay just starting with basic modules which I think would give me a good (and cheap) appreciation of what they do. Doepfer, Ladik and Erica offer inexpensive options over MakeNoise, Intellijel, Mutable etc. I really need to be firmer on my GAS and have a planned schedule of just buying one module a month!

I found these articles interesting and useful.

https://reverb.com/uk/news/the-basic...oast-synthesis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvrxQbh6vAg

The genius of Don Buchla,*by the synth disciples he inspired

My rack so far (PS. I've loaded MI alternative firmware so have these to play with)
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/rack...rid_354272.jpg
I'm going to say it again, if you can handle working with modules with menu's, I'd get a Disting for that rig. It has sooo many different functions to play with. If you find that it does something that you keep going back to, then consider getting a dedicated module that does that function.

Asides from the Disting, you might want to look into a clock division module. Either something simple like the Deopfer 160 series, or if you can live without a reset, a Tempi. Personally, I *HAVE* to have a reset so that turned my off on the Tempi. Pamela's Workout is also an option, but there's a bit of noise on Muff's about sync accuracy. I'm perfectly happy with my A-160-1 and A-160-2 setup.
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I'm going to say it again, if you can handle working with modules with menu's, I'd get a Disting for that rig. It has sooo many different functions to play with. If you find that it does something that you keep going back to, then consider getting a dedicated module that does that function.

Asides from the Disting, you might want to look into a clock division module. Either something simple like the Deopfer 160 series, or if you can live without a reset, a Tempi. Personally, I *HAVE* to have a reset so that turned my off on the Tempi. Pamela's Workout is also an option, but there's a bit of noise on Muff's about sync accuracy. I'm perfectly happy with my A-160-1 and A-160-2 setup.
Yes, I took note of your previous reply and the clock divider A-160 sounds good. The Disting I had already thought about getting and have loaded the alternative MI firmware for Peaks mainly to try the Turing emulation. I'm just wondering about all these other functions such as LPG's that people could give some advice on. Thanks.
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here's the back of the two panels. The stock panel has those 2 notches cut out. On the magpie panel, the indicator lights don't seem to clear the hole in the panel without those notches
I wonder what the notch in the original panel is for what is it accommodating, I have a branches I might whip it out the rack and have a look as you have me curious.
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Yes, I took note of your previous reply and the clock divider A-160 sounds good. The Disting I had already thought about getting and have loaded the alternative MI firmware for Peaks mainly to try the Turing emulation. I'm just wondering about all these other functions such as LPG's that people could give some advice on. Thanks.
You've got more than enough filters, envelopes, and VCAs to rig your own, simple LPG . The LxD is vactrol based, which has a bit of a "ring" to it, but Maths does at great job of creating those types of envelopes;.

Some Disting features that you might really like are the quantizer functions (to pair with the Turing Machine), logic and advanced utilities, delays, and sample playback.

As for the A-160, note the difference between the two models. The A-160-1 calculates divisions and fires on the first beat. Think of it as the kick drum in a 4/4 pattern. A-160-2 does musical divisions; out /2 plays on the second beat, /4 on the fourth beats, etc ... It would be your snare in a 4/4 pattern. That's why you might want to consider the pair if you go the Deopfer route.
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Yes, I took note of your previous reply and the clock divider A-160 sounds good. The Disting I had already thought about getting and have loaded the alternative MI firmware for Peaks mainly to try the Turing emulation. I'm just wondering about all these other functions such as LPG's that people could give some advice on. Thanks.
Depending on the LPG and how you strike it, you may not need an AD/AR at all.

For West Coast, I would definitely go with a waveshaper/folder and an LPG to start. Some distortion and frequency control over the distortion such as a resonant EQ or 4ms SMR would also add nicely to the west coast capabilities. You can look at some of the Buchla emulations or Serge modules to find what modules are used in a more West Coast system.

Agree with the above, you really want a reset on a clock divider IMO - however, I'm not sure that I would consider a clock divider something that's adding "west coast" to your system. While it's in West Coast systems, it just provides a lot more options for rhythmic possibilities in you system and can be used in a West Coast or East Coast system. Regarding Pamela's Workout however, there appears to be a new one coming, so if you're thinking that may be an option, I'd hold off until the new one comes out.
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You've got more than enough filters, envelopes, and VCAs to rig your own, simple LPG . The LxD is vactrol based, which has a bit of a "ring" to it, but Maths does at great job of creating those types of envelopes;.

Some Disting features that you might really like are the quantizer functions (to pair with the Turing Machine), logic and advanced utilities, delays, and sample playback.

As for the A-160, note the difference between the two models. The A-160-1 calculates divisions and fires on the first beat. Think of it as the kick drum in a 4/4 pattern. A-160-2 does musical divisions; out /2 plays on the second beat, /4 on the fourth beats, etc ... It would be your snare in a 4/4 pattern. That's why you might want to consider the pair if you go the Deopfer route.
Disting also has some random ASR capabilities along with S & H. I could see both of those coming into play in a West Coast system.
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Regarding Pamela's Workout however, there appears to be a new one coming, so if you're thinking that may be an option, I'd hold off until the new one comes out.
You'll find Pamela's are out of stock everywhere anyway, ALM must be well aware of the osborne effect
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I wonder what the notch in the original panel is for what is it accommodating, I have a branches I might whip it out the rack and have a look as you have me curious.
thanks. It really just looks like it accommodates a little extra depth for the indicator lights. maybe they switched the components at some point? I just bought this brand new. that'd be great if you can look at yours.
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I'm very miffed about this, but I think I'm going to have to just return my Nebulae. I figured out part of the issue; It's a power hog and it's very picky. I put it on one of the uZeus's that isn't pulling too much juice and it works a lot better now, but now I'm finding out what the real meat of the issue is: Something is apparently physically wrong with this unit. While it will load most of the time now, it either freezes up, locks up the panel, or crashes entirely by tapping on the panel. By 'tapping on the panel' I mean even so much as patching into/out of it or even pressing any of the buttons. This sucker's broke and I hate that I'm going to have to give up on it.

So now comes the question: What should I replace it with? Nebulae modules are a bit hard to find right now so replacing it with another one is out of the question. When this thing works, it's kind of a dream module: What I'd always wanted out of a sample playback module. It's on a whole other level from the other sample manglers in my systems. So does anybody know of any sampling modules that are comparable in their granularity?
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So now comes the question: What should I replace it with?
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I'm very miffed about this, but I think I'm going to have to just return my Nebulae. I figured out part of the issue; It's a power hog and it's very picky. I put it on one of the uZeus's that isn't pulling too much juice and it works a lot better now, but now I'm finding out what the real meat of the issue is: Something is apparently physically wrong with this unit. While it will load most of the time now, it either freezes up, locks up the panel, or crashes entirely by tapping on the panel. By 'tapping on the panel' I mean even so much as patching into/out of it or even pressing any of the buttons. This sucker's broke and I hate that I'm going to have to give up on it.

So now comes the question: What should I replace it with? Nebulae modules are a bit hard to find right now so replacing it with another one is out of the question. When this thing works, it's kind of a dream module: What I'd always wanted out of a sample playback module. It's on a whole other level from the other sample manglers in my systems. So does anybody know of any sampling modules that are comparable in their granularity?
Sorry to hear. Saw one on CL out here for $200 earlier this week, but just not my thing. I'll hold out for the Assimil8tor. I'd send you a link via PM but looks like it was just recently sold.
Old 8th January 2017
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thanks. It really just looks like it accommodates a little extra depth for the indicator lights. maybe they switched the components at some point? I just bought this brand new. that'd be great if you can look at yours.
Had a look at mine and the 2 LED legs are fed down a plastic tube (LED holder),
Not sure why the holder is needed but i assume thats why there is a recess in the panel to cater for it, even though on mine the holder is a millimetre or more from touching the panel and i couldn't actually see a recess on my panel.

So if it was me and i wanted the Magpie to fit id try and put a chamfer on both LED holes (from the inside of course) to cater for the LED holder.
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You'll find Pamela's are out of stock everywhere anyway, ALM must be well aware of the osborne effect
Can the new Pamela sort of replace a Butumi and MI Grids. I have none of the modules at the moment, but Grids and Butumi are on my wishlist. But it seems Pamela can do a lot of the same stuff. Anyone has all three modules?
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I'm not sure what the new pammy will do but the old pammy won't replace Batumi, Pammy is clocks Batumi is LFOs.

I have Pammy, Grids and Batumi.

I use pammy as my master clock to clock other clocks,sequencers or anything else that takes a clock so pammy clocks my Grids as well.
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Can the new Pamela sort of replace a Butumi and MI Grids. I have none of the modules at the moment, but Grids and Butumi are on my wishlist. But it seems Pamela can do a lot of the same stuff. Anyone has all three modules?
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I could swear I've read on muffs that the new Pamela will have LFOs as well. Whether it can actually replace the functionality of the Batumi, I don't know, but I highly doubt it. Plus, you put that much functionality and different functionality at that into one smallish module and you're looking at a lot of menu switching junk.
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Sorry to hear. Saw one on CL out here for $200 earlier this week, but just not my thing. I'll hold out for the Assimil8tor. I'd send you a link via PM but looks like it was just recently sold.
Meeeeeeeeh... And here I'm looking at replacing it with a $350 one.
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