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Old 3rd August 2002
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Talking Anyone here in the Mobile Recording biz?

I've just teamed up with a buddy on a new venture into the mobile recording biz. He's been doing live sound for some time now and is trying to move into the recording world. He's got a substantial investmant in the gear and truck and with the addition of my studio (place of employ...) we've got a really good "full service" packge to sell. we just did our first project together, 2 days on a straight ahead jazz record, all live at a guys house (he wanted to play his new Steinway) We've got a Dodge one ton with a box rear end that my buddy has acoustically treated,the gear is in shock mounted racks that can be lashed in the truck, or rolled into the venue.
The gear:
Vintech, Aphex,UA audio, True systems Joe Meek, Art, Summit, (16 ch combined) and a Presonus M80 and 8ch presonus dynamics,(don't know the #) for the rest of inputs.
Yamaha 02r for monitoring, Mackie monitors (and ns10's) 6 ch of headphones,.

We've got a splitter and up to 200 ft snake available.
Good mic selection between us, and acces to my room for mixing or editing in PT and good outboard.
I'd like to find out what other markets are charging or even have available. Also wondering if we should offer PT or DP3 editing onsite as part of "the package"
Also need advice on UPS power and any other onsite specific issues that we may be overlooking.
The other question is about bleed (vocal primarily) in a true live band recording. I know(assume) the big boys (think Eagles live) did tons of fixes after the fact but I'm curious if they tracked without wedges....did they use in ears? any insight would be greatly appreciated.
I really enjoyed getting out of my dark little room to work on this thing and look forward to the next gig.Thanks for any dialogue on this subject. Craig
Old 3rd August 2002
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oh yeah , using DA78's....x3
Old 3rd August 2002
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One of my 'outside' clients at my predominantly private studio specialize in location recording of "Big Band" bands. (Glen Miller style outfits)

They kinda play it close to their chest re tips & tricks...

Best of luck with your exciting new adventure!

Old 4th August 2002
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Yep! and the whole studio fits in an average (sedan) car.

Only analog recording also, a Tascam MSR24S, Seck 1882 consoles, three of them giving me 54 mic pre's, 24 busses and many monitoring possibilities.

Peace, Han
Old 10th August 2002
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Craig, I'm in the mobile recording business.

Since your buddy has a substantial investment in the gear & truck and is into live sound, teaming up with him sounds like a great idea. A turnkey full package to sell is key. One stop shopping.

How did your straight ahead jazz recording work out? It must have sounded awesome with all the groovy gear you guys have.

Man, when I think of the time I started out, (1975) I had eight mics, a Sony MX20 mixer, a Revox A700, a Crown D60 and a pair of headphones. Sh*t, Vintech, Aphex, UA audio, True systems, Joe Meek, Summit, et cetera, etc., that's very cool stuff indeed. rollz

But what about your mic splitter and power situation? Are they both isolated? Is the power conditioned? When you're ready to consider installing UPS and power conditioning, give me an email so we can discuss it further.

Craig, with the advent of the Internet and the future of streaming media, mobile and/or location recording is perfect for this growing market. Radio and TV broadcasts are also both good ventures to get into.

Having PT, etc., onsite is a good idea for certain types of sessions.
It's cool to provide "on location" workstation action. Mixing, post production, teleproduction, radio production and other similar situations, all at the clients fingers tips. Very strong idea as a deluxe package! They may need that kind of service, just don't sell yourselves short, showing up with everything and only using part of it. It should be an additional fee or rental on top of your normal recording day rate. :eek:

The easy fix to "vocal bleed" is not to overdub the vocals later in a studio. Let's leave that for bad notes. It's about mic placement in the first place. Your best shot at making a live recording sound good (great) is at the location you're in when you captured it. It's much easier to move an amp or instrument out of the away of a mic for better isolation (less bleed) then to gate, EQ, overdub and/or pull your hair out of your head later my man. grggt

Hey, if everyone had in-ear monitoring, life would be a lot simpler for us remote guys, but tracking with wedges and/or side fills does not have to be a problem. I've used wedges on studio recordings with much success! Some artists had their headphones so loud, it was better to use a wedge behind the mic then their headphones in front of the mic. You just have to pick the correct components to make it work for you. Speaker volume, the placement and type of the speakers and mics is key.

I hope this helped.
Old 13th August 2002
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Steve, Great to see you here!

( pssst.. every one remember to vote for steve in the tec awards )

Craig,

Take him up on he advise, he knows what he is doing, and is a really nice fella.

Steve Smith
Forerunner Music
Old 14th August 2002
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I'll second that. I was with him today for the WBGO street festival in Newark. Serious rig, serious guy and seriously fun. It was also seriously fukkin' hot. The radio said Newark, NJ hit 100 degrees today and tied the record.
Old 14th August 2002
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Steve, Great to see you here!

( pssst.. every one remember to vote for steve in the tec awards )

Craig,

Take him up on he advise, he knows what he is doing, and is a really nice fella.

Steve Smith
Forerunner Music

Steve,

Thank you for the kind words.

I cannot wait to get a copy of "the best of the spoken parts" heh from the Flushing Meadows Park gig we did together this summer. The guys are gonna love it. We really had a ball working with you and yours. I hope we get a chance to do it again.

See you soon Steve.
Old 14th August 2002
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I'll second that. I was with him today for the WBGO street festival in Newark. Serious rig, serious guy and seriously fun. It was also seriously fukkin' hot. The radio said Newark, NJ hit 100 degrees today and tied the record.
Firstly, the "Wall to Wall Miles" gig that's up for the 2002 TEC Award really sounded awesome. WBGO, the entire audio crew and the people at Symphony Space in NYC really worked their butts off to make this 12 hour radio broadcast work. Parts of this broadcast also aired nationally on NPR's JazzSet. grggt

Secondly, I really got to thank you Jay. I invited you down just to hang and you ended up helping us big time!! I hope I get a chance to work with you again. You're the man!

Yes, it may have been seriously hot outside, but the ASL Mobile Unit was chillin' very nicely.

Thanks again my man.
Old 23rd September 2012
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Was this the birth of the remote forum? These are some of Steve's first posts!

Craig,
I'd love to hear an update on how this business venture went for you.
Old 23rd September 2012
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The birth of the Remote Possibilities... forum happen October 1st, 2002.

I was asked to be Gearslutz.com's October 2002 guest moderator, so I can bring some insight on the world of remote recording a la Aura-Sonic Ltd.

It started with the following thread:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/remot...out-there.html

I loved the guest moderator position so much, I stayed on and the "Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording" forum was created!

Like I stated in my first "Guest Moderator" post...

This audio forum is only as good as it's contributing participants...
Got anything "important" to say? Or maybe a question or thought you can bring to the table about location recording and/or recording live? An enlightenment of any kind would be great. How about an embellishment of sorts? Keep me posted. I'm all "gearz", I mean, "ears".


This forum has come a long way from the original guest moderator forum it started as.

Our forum is only as good as the people involved in this activity.
I'm proud of what we all have created!


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Was this the birth of the remote forum? These are some of Steve's first posts!

Craig,
I'd love to hear an update on how this business venture went for you.
Old 23rd September 2012
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Hear! Hear!
Old 23rd September 2012
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Awesome man. This place has been invaluable for me. Thank you for making it possible.
Old 23rd September 2012
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Hear! Hear!
Thanks!

It's been a blast and it's getting better all the time!

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Awesome man. This place has been invaluable for me. Thank you for making it possible.
I'm happy to hear how invaluable the forum has been.

Thank you for helping us make this the forum it has become.
Old 24th September 2012
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The birth of the Remote Possibilities... forum happen October 1st, 2002.
This means we owe you a party next Monday, Steve!
Old 24th September 2012
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The potential to having an awesome time is seriously doable.

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This means we owe you a party next Monday, Steve!
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