Is this a psychological thing?
Old 15th March 2013
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Is this a psychological thing?

I always wonder about these dudes on GS ... the ones who seem really good at taking little things and arguing over them, turning threads of discussion into pissing contests.

Is it ... A) that some people are just a-holes ... or B) people get cocky because they aren't face-to-face. Is it a little psychological thing that happens when you're safely behind your computer, or are some people just built that way in the first place?

I gotta say, it's exhausting here. Can hardly get through a thread or two without seeing someone attack someone else's methods, reasoning, preference, ideas. Yeah, it's one thing if someone is distorting science and fact and passing off their skewed view to someone else who doesn't know any better. But to attack or attempt to refute people's preferences ... ugh. Exhausting.

And don't get me started on the dude who's trying to make everyone believe he's big time.

That's all. I'll take the bad with the good. But it's still exhausting.
Old 15th March 2013
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I'm with you.
Discourteous discourse abounds
Old 15th March 2013
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"Discourteous discourse" ... I like that.
Old 15th March 2013
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I'm with you.
Discourteous discourse abounds
"Discourteous discourse abounds"?

What on Earth are you talking about?!

(Wavy lines, segue into...)

A: Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!

B: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I'm not going to just stand...!!

A: OH, oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse.

B: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.

A: Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.

(Wavy lines, wavy lines...)

Sorry, what were we talking about? Oh yes, there are indeed a few too many threads on here that generate far more heat than light. That's the Internet for you I guess...
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Old 16th March 2013
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Welcome to the Internet.

I will say though I enjoy the conversation...even when it gets heated. The vast majority of people here are very civil. It's a great online community and I learn new things every visit.

The Moan Zone is amongst my favorite though. It reminds me a lot like going to NAMM and shooting the sh*t. Sharing war stories while sipping down a cold one.

CHEERS!
Old 16th March 2013
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There is a solid group of guys on here that I really trust in terms of their knowledge and experience - they pretty much fully offset all of the B.S. you have to read through. I know when they're in a thread that I'm going to get honest, solid, unpretentious words from them. These guys aren't pushing their own credentials or lying about their successes - they actually don't even bring that kind of thing up. I respect that a lot.

And then there are the dudes who just wanna slam other people for their choice of gear. Like buying an expensive pre automatically makes them better? Huh. How bout that.
Old 16th March 2013
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Having to be a ref around here for many years as a moderator I have had to deal with it all up close and personal. I've always felt that the anonymity and the non one-on-one interaction has caused a few people to use that to say things to people that they would never say face to face. As for myself I'm usually pretty mellow but I can be a little rough around the edges, get hot headed and arrogant, so I have to try and keep my posts in check. Which can be challenging when someone p@sses me off, the Cuban Aries New Yorker can rear up. Funny thing is so many of the hostile members when I meet them in real life they are nice guys. And I always think 'why would you want to portrait yourself on gs as an a$$hole'. Such is life. I remember a few years ago Jules and I were hangin out and ran into a guy who had been torturing us, I mean full blown pain in the ass and he was a super nice guy in person. We shot the shit with him for hours.
Old 16th March 2013
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If someone was insecure, or was worried they were insecure, or suspected they worried they might be insecure, one way to compensate would be to act brash and brazen on an internet forum... they might be able to persuade themselves they were actually brilliant, informed, and rich in wisdom and opinions.

Maybe that's-- to quote Marvin Gaye-- what's going on...?
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Old 16th March 2013
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Having to be a ref around here for many years as a moderator I have had to deal with it all up close and personal. I've always felt that the anonymity and the non one-on-one interaction has caused a few people to use that to say things to people that they would never say face to face. As for myself I'm usually pretty mellow but I can be a little rough around the edges, get hot headed and arrogant, so I have to try and keep my posts in check. Which can be challenging when someone p@sses me off, the Cuban Aries New Yorker can rear up. Funny thing is so many of the hostile members when I meet them in real life they are nice guys. And I always think 'why would you want to portrait yourself on gs as an a$$hole'. Such is life. I remember a few years ago Jules and I were hangin out and ran into a guy who had been torturing us, I mean full blown pain in the ass and he was a super nice guy in person. We shot the shit with him for hours.
I can only imagine ...

Yup I believe a big part for many wit that problem is the anonymity. It's pretty safe.
Old 16th March 2013
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If someone was insecure, or was worried they were insecure, or suspected they worried they might be insecure, one way to compensate would be to act brash and brazen on an internet forum... they might be able to persuade themselves they were actually brilliant, informed, and rich in wisdom and opinions.

Maybe that's-- to quote Marvin Gaye-- what's going on...?
Man, you've been on a pretty solid roll lately with the little one liners and funny comments. And to think I'd had you pegged as such a know-it-all JERK.
Old 16th March 2013
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I always wonder about these dudes on GS
Just the problem too many dudes. Not enough chicks.
Wherever there are no women, things goto shite.
See:
The Catholic Church- Do you think all the goings on there would happen with women around? Not talking about the bitter powerless Nuns either.
Football- The Penn State mess? Would this cover-up happen if a woman saw what happened?
How many female suicide bombers have you heard of? And if guys were getting laid, they wouldn't blow themselves up!
Old 16th March 2013
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I probably wouldn't talk about date raping my bf with GHB and rohipnol so much if it wasn't for the internetz.
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Old 16th March 2013
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There are always other threads to read. Most often I read the thread til the pissing contest starts and then leave.

Most people argue to convince themselves because they are not really confident themselves. People who are assured of their position on a subject can't be bothered.

I used to see this same thing on Walleye Central when I was a tournament fisherman. I started setting people up for laughs with staged questions about apparently hypothetical scenarios to see how people would weigh in.

Little did they know I had already run my own tests and had a quantifiable answer which I would post after listening to 50 threads of bulls---.

People were so convinced that something did not work when I had 500 examples where it did work.

Go figure.
Old 16th March 2013
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And if guys were getting laid, they wouldn't blow themselves up!
Now, that there is some real USA type simple dude talk, kids.
Old 16th March 2013
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I probably wouldn't talk about date raping my bf with GHB and rohipnol so much if it wasn't for the internetz.
Rohipnol .. originally used in dentistry. I read it on the box.

Old 16th March 2013
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There are always other threads to read. Most often I read the thread til the pissing contest starts and then leave.

Most people argue to convince themselves because they are not really confident themselves. People who are assured of their position on a subject can't be bothered.

I used to see this same thing on Walleye Central when I was a tournament fisherman. I started setting people up for laughs with staged questions about apparently hypothetical scenarios to see how people would weigh in.

Little did they know I had already run my own tests and had a quantifiable answer which I would post after listening to 50 threads of bulls---.

People were so convinced that something did not work when I had 500 examples where it did work.

Go figure.
That is kind of evil, but really really funny at the same time. Wait. No pun intended there, but wasn't what you were doing called trolling? Kind of. Right? I still dig it.
Old 16th March 2013
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Man, you've been on a pretty solid roll lately with the little one liners and funny comments. And to think I'd had you pegged as such a know-it-all JERK.
Nah, I'm a jerk that knows only a very limited number of things...
Old 16th March 2013
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I recommend judicious use of the ignore feature. And because it is such a classic sketch...
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Old 16th March 2013
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Originally Posted by verve92 View Post
Just the problem too many dudes. Not enough chicks.
Wherever there are no women, things goto shite.
See:
The Catholic Church- Do you think all the goings on there would happen with women around? Not talking about the bitter powerless Nuns either.
Football- The Penn State mess? Would this cover-up happen if a woman saw what happened?
How many female suicide bombers have you heard of? And if guys were getting laid, they wouldn't blow themselves up!
.

haha...well said!

.
Old 16th March 2013
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I recommend judicious use of the ignore feature. And because it is such a classic sketch...
Hey man I liked that video. When he gives him the rest of the money then the guy argues that he DIDNT ... Lol.
Old 16th March 2013
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Hey man I liked that video. When he gives him the rest of the money then the guy argues that he DIDNT ... Lol.
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Yeah, he'd make a good radio promoter or lawyer.

.
Old 16th March 2013
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To the original poster, you can access the ignore feature by clicking on the persons nickname that you want to ignore and simply selecting ignore. Painless and easy. This feature makes Gearslutz a lot better.
Old 16th March 2013
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I've always known about it, but I guess I've just put it off for reasons unknown. I should go on an ignore frenzy at some point.
Old 17th March 2013
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Did somone just call me an a$$hole?

Fighting words
Old 17th March 2013
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Think of how many lives the internet has saved! People using it as a place to vent instead of letting it all build up and doing something criminal! Besides Craigslist of course
Old 17th March 2013
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internet is in general the biggest waste of time. the only time it is ever of any use whatsoever is when i hit some computer/software issue then google it and most of the time find a solution tout suite. after that, perhaps some software and musical instrument instructional, making purchases and finally, of course porn.

in short...unless you're seeking a specific, focused intellectual endeavor, buying something or looking to rub one out real quick, the internet is a useless time sucking vampire
Old 17th March 2013
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unless you're seeking a specific, focused intellectual endeavor, buying something or looking to rub one out real quick, the internet is a useless time sucking vampire
Who ARE you? Lol.

I think that was a great, truthful yet funny post. Well done.
Old 18th March 2013
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Who ARE you? Lol.

I think that was a great, truthful yet funny post. Well done.
Old 18th March 2013
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I always wonder about these dudes on GS ... the ones who seem really good at taking little things and arguing over them, turning threads of discussion into pissing contests.

Is it ... A) that some people are just a-holes ... or B) people get cocky because they aren't face-to-face. Is it a little psychological thing that happens when you're safely behind your computer, or are some people just built that way in the first place?

I gotta say, it's exhausting here. Can hardly get through a thread or two without seeing someone attack someone else's methods, reasoning, preference, ideas. Yeah, it's one thing if someone is distorting science and fact and passing off their skewed view to someone else who doesn't know any better. But to attack or attempt to refute people's preferences ... ugh. Exhausting.

And don't get me started on the dude who's trying to make everyone believe he's big time.

That's all. I'll take the bad with the good. But it's still exhausting.
Seems like a small thing to me...Why do you feel the need to argue over it?



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Old 18th March 2013
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Seems like a small thing to me...Why do you feel the need to argue over it?



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