The No.1 Website for Pro Audio
Foote Control Systems P3S Compressor
Old 4th December 2018
  #61
Gear Addict
 
housegezeichnet's Avatar
 
1 Review written
🎧 10 years
did actually happen before the commercial units....maybe you can find a used pico compressor....great comp!
Old 4th December 2018 | Show parent
  #62
Lives for gear
 
106 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by midmost View Post
Hi Roger,

sorry for resurrecting such an old thread.
I am still a big fan of all of your designs and products.
Unfortunately not everyone can afford your units easily and they don't appear on the second hand market everyday.
Have you ever considered offering your designs as a DIY kits?
I just saw an inside picture of the P3S and it really looks not too complicated.
I imagine PCBs + enclosure .. and parts can be sourced by anyone on their own.
You still could make a good profit and address a whole new customer group
Hi midmost,
We tried DIY when I was at another DIY forum and we could not give them away at first, until people figured out that it was cool. Wasn't able to sell the DIY boards against the ever popular SSL clones. It is a name recognition thing!

Now, we are doing them on 6 layer boards that are very easy to destroy if you connect any of the 3 power supplies backwards. That would not be good kit stuff...

It would need to be on 2 layers so there is no hidden routing, which means the P3S would be larger than an API 2500 board. The 2 layer would make destruction less possible.

The #1 reason I am not doing kits is the support time.

And the fact that we were not able to sell the boards I made, so it was a financial loss at the time, not a huge one but when a product fails we put it in the dumpster so to speak.

With current situations what they are, and will be for the foreseeable future, we are re-organizing FCS. That will bring many retirements and new products.
New products will primarily be more simplified designs in 500 format.

We may end up doing ONLY 500 stuff in 2019 because of impacts on steel and aluminum prices...

What is planned:
P3S 500
P4S 500
Clip/Sat 500
Transformer Color 500
Possibly an EQ in 500

And some of my instrument/line pre amps in 500

The 500 series plan will cut some costs and allow us to get into the lower economic levels of the pro audio market with classic FCS hand built quality.

In the mean time we are selling the P3S, and P4S bus compressors (potentiometer versions) at 30% off until Jan 1 2019 when they will be full price again.

We will also sell P3S ME and P4S SE at 30% off until Jan 1 2019.

So, if you want any of these units below list price, now is the time because "Times they are a' changing!"
They will be built on an order by order basis. If we get no orders, we will kill those products.
Old 5th December 2018 | Show parent
  #63
Lives for gear
 
tengu's Avatar
 
🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerFoote View Post

What is planned:
P3S 500
P4S 500
Clip/Sat 500
Transformer Color 500
Possibly an EQ in 500
This is fantastic news Roger. I was actually going to ask about this yesterday.
Old 5th December 2018 | Show parent
  #64
Lives for gear
 
tengu's Avatar
 
🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerFoote View Post



In the mean time we are selling the P3S, and P4S bus compressors (potentiometer versions) at 30% off until Jan 1 2019 when they will be full price again.

We will also sell P3S ME and P4S SE at 30% off until Jan 1 2019.
I can't seem to find your "list prices" on your website.
Old 6th December 2018 | Show parent
  #65
Lives for gear
 
106 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
Hi tengu,
Click the more info tab.

P4S Plus- Discontinued
P4S ME List $4750
P4S SE List $4750
P3S ME List $3250
P3S Bus List $2250

30% off until Jan 1 2019
Old 6th December 2018 | Show parent
  #66
Lives for gear
 
106 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
The transformer color module will be a discrete pre amp with input and output Txs and color adjustments.

It will work as a standard line amp too.

Bottom line is that we can't compete with big corporate companies when a rack case, power supply and panel cost me around $200 per unit in bulk!!...

Of course we can always make P3S or P4S if someone wants them, but we won't stock them. We are mulling the retirement of the P3S as of 2019 though as that build requires that I purchase cases by the 50 piece minimum to get a good price.

The un-punched 2ru cases are easy to get, but I think the P3S has reached it's end. We rarely get P3S orders any more, so I guess the market has been saturated. We have maybe 10 more P3S type cases, but I will need to see massive interest to spend another $2,500 - $5,000 on cases for them.
Don't see that happening.

These and other thoughts have propelled the 500 series idea.

As soon as I am free of my obligations, we go there!
Old 6th December 2018 | Show parent
  #67
Lives for gear
 
106 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
Hey, can all of you see the "likes" when you hover over the like button?
I can not see who likes what...
Old 6th December 2018
  #68
Lives for gear
 
Conundra's Avatar
 
Verified Member
🎧 5 years
Damn! Sad to hear that the 19" gear will be discontinued soon. The PS3 is high on my wish list, but I need to get a new Mac and an Imperium monitor controller first. I likely won't be able to invest in more outboard until later in 2019.

Do you think the 500 series will be as suitable as the rack versions for mastering Roger?

Edit, you posted whilst I was typing, Glad to hear they may still be a chance I can custom order a P3S in future

Last edited by Conundra; 6th December 2018 at 02:53 PM.. Reason: Added INfo
Old 20th March 2019 | Show parent
  #69
Here for the gear
 
🎧 5 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerFoote View Post
Hey, can all of you see the "likes" when you hover over the like button?
I can not see who likes what...
I can see the names.
Old 27th March 2019 | Show parent
  #70
Lives for gear
 
106 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
Thanks.
I still can't see them ever since they changed the site to be mobile friendly.
Lots of other failures in the software on older (Win7) machines.
Like having to log in outside of the PM page to get into the PMs.
Like having to reload the pages 3 times or more when logging in.
Pretty bad web forum software IMO...
Old 28th March 2019 | Show parent
  #71
Lives for gear
 
tengu's Avatar
 
🎧 15 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerFoote View Post

We may end up doing ONLY 500 stuff in 2019 because of impacts on steel and aluminum prices...

What is planned:
P3S 500
P4S 500
Clip/Sat 500
Transformer Color 500
Possibly an EQ in 500
As someone else asked, do you think these will be capable in a mastering context? I have some spaces to fill in a 500 rack.
Old 28th March 2019 | Show parent
  #72
Lives for gear
 
midmost's Avatar
 
🎧 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by tengu View Post
As someone else asked, do you think these will be capable in a mastering context? I have some spaces to fill in a 500 rack.
in my humble opinion 500-series stuff is never suitable in a mastering context yet alone due to the fact that 500-stuff always has an underwhelming power supply unit and thus not enough dynamics and headroom.

my 2 cents
Old 28th March 2019
  #73
Lives for gear
 
Conundra's Avatar
 
Verified Member
🎧 5 years
Teebaum’s thread might be worth a read regarding suitability of 500 series frames and modules for mastering:

Mastering Grade 500 Frame
Old 28th March 2019 | Show parent
  #74
Lives for gear
 
106 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
The problems with mastering gear in 500 format are power and real estate.
The switches that MEs like generally won't fit into 500 stuff unless there are just 2 or 3 controls, at least for single space gear.

My original intent on the 500 stuff was to use potentiometers obviously.

I will still build 19" stuff but after the economy tanked for many of us starting in 2017 we saw a 30% drop in sales so we can't afford to stock much like we did when dealers were purchasing units in the robust economy that we had before.

So if a person wants or needs a 19" unit we can do them still.
I doubt you will ever see discounts again though on the 19" products though, those days are over.

Roger
Old 28th June 2019
  #75
Lives for gear
 
Eigenwert's Avatar
 
4 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
The FCS P3S is a great unit. You see them often with long-term clients of the Digital Audio Service gear store in Hamburg
Old 28th June 2019 | Show parent
  #76
Lives for gear
 
Shawn Hatfield's Avatar
 
Verified Member
28 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eigenwert View Post
The FCS P3S is a great unit. You see them often with long-term clients of the Digital Audio Service gear store in Hamburg
A lot of gear has come and gone from this studio but I will NEVER sell my FCS P3S ME. NEVER.

Best,
Shawn
Old 28th June 2019 | Show parent
  #77
Lives for gear
 
106 Reviews written
🎧 10 years
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn Hatfield View Post
A lot of gear has come and gone from this studio but I will NEVER sell my FCS P3S ME. NEVER.

Best,
Shawn
Wow! Thanks Shawn!
πŸ“ Reply

Similar Threads

Thread / Thread Starter Replies / Views Last Post
replies: 87 views: 40959
Avatar for 12tone
12tone 4th May 2017
replies: 225 views: 42933
Avatar for RogerFoote
RogerFoote 21st July 2019
replies: 633 views: 144015
Avatar for ed littman
ed littman 7th January 2020
replies: 26596 views: 2756586
Avatar for raal
raal 9 hours ago
Post Reply

Welcome to the Gearslutz Pro Audio Community!

Registration benefits include:
  • The ability to reply to and create new discussions
  • Access to members-only giveaways & competitions
  • Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As
  • Access to members-only sub forum discussions
  • Access to members-only Chat Room
  • Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio Classifieds for only USD $20/year
  • Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free
  • Remove this message!
You need an account to post a reply. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered.


 
 
Slide to join now Processing…
πŸ–¨οΈ Show Printable Version
βœ‰οΈ Email this Page
πŸ” Search thread
πŸŽ™οΈ View mentioned gear
Forum Jump
Forum Jump