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Foote Control Systems P3S Mastering Edition Compressor Review
Old 11th July 2014 | Show parent
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Almost 1000$ for import tax ?? I dont think so...
No! There's something wrong with that... There is no way it costs $1000 more.
I work very hard to make sales equitable.

Give us some hard numbers please!

rf
Yeah, that sounds highly exaggerated.

I paid only USD $600 more for the class A mastering edition (a total of $3,736.45 to be specific), and that's with shipping from the US to Denmark where we have the third highest VAT in the world (25%). Deductable of course, so it doesn't matter if you have a company.

So for the rest of the EU it could only be the same or cheaper. If not, your local dealer is shafting you ;-)

Also, as you already know I love the P3S ME. Great job. Will post my detailed video review soon.
Old 14th July 2014 | Show parent
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You guys didn't get the memo?

Red IS the new Black

The only ones that have red panels are the P3S ME Class A and the P3S Class A Precision Bus. Standard (non Class A) models are all black.

But, I will happily provide black panel P3S ME Class A or Precision Bus if desired at no extra cost.

At some point we may go to black only...

@ Hippocratic Mastering

We are using a different switch now that has the "bullet" caps that you see on API stuff. Those caps are in grey, white and black.


In this picture, the grey looks like white but in real life they look distinctly different.
Here the timing buttons are grey and the bypass is white

Anyway, this is the current red version. Black uses the same pushbuttons as pictured here.

Best regards,
Roger
regarding the red panel, wasn't it an option for the 1st ME models? Mine is red but says O/T where the one on the pic says C/A for the transformers. I also have in memory that the class a stage came later no?
And is the 75Hz sidechain a standart now? I thought mine is at 100Hz.
What's the price for the sidechain switch box anyway?

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Old 14th July 2014 | Show parent
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Hi trancekid,

The models with class A output stages have the text C/A where O/T is on non class A models.

After the current crop of P3S ME are gone, we will likely go back to black.
We have plenty of red ones in stock and can supply them in black as well if you don't care for the red.

The HPF switcher is $250 and requires that the compressors have HPF marked on the TRS connectors. Models with simple side chain inputs must be modded to support the external HPF switch.

All current P3S ME come with HPF access, not side chain inputs. Although the HPF connectors can be used for SC inserts as long as you don't try to drive any loads <5K with the Tx signal.

Best
Roger
Old 21st July 2014
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excited to read all this because i just scored a new/unused one on ebay for 800 euros!!! not ME tho but dont master, just for bus and 2 bus duties!
Old 21st July 2014 | Show parent
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excited to read all this because i just scored a new/unused one on ebay for 800 euros!!! not ME tho but dont master, just for bus and 2 bus duties!
Lucky I wasn't on ebay that day heh!
Old 26th November 2014 | Show parent
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Sorry for bumping - I don't come round here a great deal these days - but I wanted to chime in here quickly.

I've had the P3SME Class A for just over a week. It's absolutely *outstanding*. Absolutely outstanding. I paid for the all-singing all-dancing Class A version but I'm almost never using it (mostly electronic stuff here), nice to have the option when required though. But this compressor is absolutely outstanding, it's what I want a compressor to be. It compresses, in a number of ways, and none of them leave any undesirables. It's just a case of choosing how it is you want it to compress.

BTW it's nothing like the API, at all. The API hasn't really had a look in since I got the P3SME, and may well be on its way soon. Not rushing that decision though...

Anyway, great compressor. Bloody brilliant compressor, tbh. Where's the eq?!
Old 26th November 2014 | Show parent
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I've had the P3SME Class A for just over a week. It's absolutely *outstanding*.
I came, I saw, I concurred, although in my case the Class A/Cinemag button is almost always on. Like you I've found the Foote useful on electronic music, and also acoustic material.

Good to see you here, Sir Bob - just took a spin on the website, the new place is looking great.
Old 26th November 2014 | Show parent
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Sorry for bumping - I don't come round here a great deal these days - but I wanted to chime in here quickly.

I've had the P3SME Class A for just over a week. It's absolutely *outstanding*. Absolutely outstanding.
Great to see you here again Bob!

Still digging my P3S ME Class A over here! A few months back I had Roger build me an external side chain HPF switch for it giving me 5 frequency selection, I find it very useful and a nice addition to an already incredibly flexible compressor.

I'm in-between you and Nigel on usage of the Class A transformer driven output stage, I use it about 50% of the time, which is why I'm glad it's switchable and I'm not pinned down to one output stage or the other.

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Where's the eq?!
Seconded! I'd love to see Roger's take on a full featured mastering EQ!
Old 26th November 2014 | Show parent
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The Foote Compressors are the sh!t.....
Thats Technical....
Old 30th November 2014
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Have any of you guys used the new Smart C1LA or owned a C1? Any comments on how the P3S measures up?
Old 30th November 2014 | Show parent
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I had the smart years ago and found it useful to mix into at the time.
Quite grabby and aggressive unless used very lightly.
The Foote has much less in terms of compression artifacts and
is a truly great mastering compressor because of this.
There is no comparison for mastering...
Old 30th November 2014 | Show parent
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I had the smart years ago and found it useful to mix into at the time.
Quite grabby and aggressive unless used very lightly.
The Foote has much less in terms of compression artifacts and
is a truly great mastering compressor because of this.
There is no comparison for mastering...
Thanks!
I thought I would jump in here to say (again?) that the FCS compressors are not SSL clones but a completely different design. The only thing we have in common with SSL type compressors is that they and we use VCAs as gain reduction elements.

Roger
Old 30th November 2014
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I can only speak to the Serpent SB4001 SSL type, and it's totally different in operation and end result compared to the FCS. As I understand it the SSL is entirely peak based in detection. The FCS gives you several different detection types, and in A/R mode you can somewhat steer more like the SSL types, but the result is much more hi-fi and exacting. The Serpent at least shows many more artifacts and sounds pillowy and indistinct in the release quality. Sometimes you want that in a mix. If I drive both types up to 20 dB compression on a mix, the FCS still sounds good, the Serpent sounds very small and trashy. Hey, if a punk rock mix comes in sounding clinically pristine, you might want to pick the SSL type, but.....usually not, that's a case of extremes.
Old 15th May 2015
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I used to have a full options GSSL compressor in the past with thrust circuit in the sidechain which sometimes came in handy. It's sometimes handy to take some vocals or highs without using multiband compression ITB.
So, what I did, is build a custom sidechain box with modded sidechain filter boards from the GSSL and used it for a nice box next to my beloved redfaced FCS P3S ME. Panel by schaeffer and new (better readable) knobs from musikding.de.



Old 15th May 2015 | Show parent
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Looking good, da goose!

This is why we put the SC HPF switch on the front of the P3EX.
It is quite useful and has a lot of impact over how bass is handled but also affects mid range in a very interesting way.

Best
Roger
Old 15th May 2015 | Show parent
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Looking good, da goose!

This is why we put the SC HPF switch on the front of the P3EX.
It is quite useful and has a lot of impact over how bass is handled but also affects mid range in a very interesting way.

Best
Roger
Thanks!
The P3ex looks good! I suspect it to be more like a mixbuss compressor? https://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-...ompressor.html
Old 15th May 2015
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I have also gotten an external side chain for my FCS P3S ME. It really opens up some new possibilities for how the low end is compressed - or probably better put, not compressed.

Roger built my side chain HPF. Took a bit of creative thinking to keep it to a 1/2 wide 1RU box so it could live next to my Benchmark DAC1 without taking up a full rack space but we got it done.
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Old 15th May 2015 | Show parent
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Hi da goose,

Thank you!
Yes it is for mix or drum bus duties.

Hi aleatoric,
That panel turned out pretty cool!
Looks good alongside the Benchmark.

Best
Roger
Old 15th May 2015 | Show parent
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Hi aleatoric,
That panel turned out pretty cool!
Looks good alongside the Benchmark.
Thanks, I think so too! Where is lives in my rack, with the switch being directly below the HPF button, it really just feels like an extension of the P3S. Worked out well!
Old 11th June 2015 | Show parent
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Well, after much searching and consultation, I decided go to the P3S ME class A. Roger begins to manufacture today. I think it will be a great complement to my Vari mu.

thank you very much for all the comments in this thread. They served me a lot!
Old 11th June 2015 | Show parent
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Well, after much searching and consultation, I decided go to the P3S ME class A. Roger begins to manufacture today. I think it will be a great complement to my Vari mu.

thank you very much for all the comments in this thread. They served me a lot!
You will not be disappointed. It still remains one of the most useful tools in my chain after several years.

Enjoy, and congrats on your purchase!
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Well, after much searching and consultation, I decided go to the P3S ME class A. Roger begins to manufacture today. I think it will be a great complement to my Vari mu.

thank you very much for all the comments in this thread. They served me a lot!
Nice! You're going to love it! Still love mine 4.5 years since getting it.
Old 12th June 2015 | Show parent
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I'm in over 5 years at this point, still among the few most-used tools around here.
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I'm in over 5 years at this point, still among the few most-used tools around here.
Three years here, running a mix through it as I type.
Old 12th July 2015 | Show parent
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P3S finally arrived! Recently I start to try. So far, I'm very happy!

Old 27th August 2015
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For anyone who is interested in P3S ME Class A, I'm selling mine. It's in immaculate condition. Class A and Cinemag transformer. I have used this on countless mixes and masters in the past 3 years. I love this mastering compressor but I need to raise fund for an expensive project.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/gear...aris-more.html
Old 2nd November 2015 | Show parent
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settings

Hi Guys,

i'm quite a newbie in this area and got pretty lucky to get a p3sme.
serial number 17, so i think it's one of the earlier models.

now i really like the tone of the box and the transformers but somehow i can't get a transparent compression, there is always some kind of pumping going on. I'm pretty sure that this because i'm not quite sure how to dial it in. I would really appreciate if you could give me some hints how to set it up!

cheers, all the best

delite23
Old 2nd November 2015 | Show parent
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Hi delite23,

Try setting the threshold to about 10:00, set ratio to 1.5:1
Then make sure only the following buttons are pushed in:
RMS
HPF

Adjust threshold and/or ratio until you get 2 to 3 dB of activity on the GR meter.
Then set your gain to unity by comparing the compressed to bypassed signal.
This should yield a nice smooth RMS compression.

To use AR:
First, release the RMS button
Push in the AR button
Set attack to 1:00
Set release to almost all the way CCW

Adjust threshold and/or ratio until you see around 2-3 dB of GR
Then set your gain to unity by comparing the compressed to bypassed signal.
This yields a more punchy type of response which retains the transients.

Hope that helps!

Best regards,
Roger


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Hi Guys,

i'm quite a newbie in this area and got pretty lucky to get a p3sme.
serial number 17, so i think it's one of the earlier models.

now i really like the tone of the box and the transformers but somehow i can't get a transparent compression, there is always some kind of pumping going on. I'm pretty sure that this because i'm not quite sure how to dial it in. I would really appreciate if you could give me some hints how to set it up!

cheers, all the best

delite23
Old 2nd November 2015 | Show parent
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thank you so much for your fast reply!

i'll give it a try tomorrow morning ;-)
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thank you so much for your fast reply!

i'll give it a try tomorrow morning ;-)
Hi delite23,

Any progress on this?

Best regards,
Roger
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