The No.1 Website for Pro Audio
 Search This Thread  Search This Forum  Search Reviews  Search Gear Database  Search Gear for sale  Search Gearslutz Go Advanced
ear shape Special Ef­fects Plugins
Old 19th November 2009
  #31
Lives for gear
 
macc's Avatar
 

Verified Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjg View Post
You prefer your own or your girlfriend's?
Well I drink more than her so I'd say mine's more transparent, her's is more coloured...

... sounding.

Quote:
Did you manage to sell your old Sennheisers, btw?
heh
Old 19th November 2009
  #32
Lives for gear
 
djmukilteo's Avatar
Cupping ones ears is a common practice, many people do that when listening to particular room acoustic anomalies or changes to noise levels in a room, especially when trying to determine some acoustic reverberation effect or localizing a particular surface that may be reflective....it's nothing new...any good sound man would know this trick...
What your doing is creating a horn effect to your ear canal and what you are perceiving is enhanced loudness....your ear drum and brain aren't changing anything only the level into your ear canal is being enhanced...in fact you will perceive a marked increase in high frequency detail when you do this and you can do this anywhere anytime...in the old days people with hearing loss used to use a megaphone horn shaped device to assist them with their hearing.....I'm sure you've seen pictures or movies of people using them!
Only a professional hearing exam using headphones and calibrated sound pressure levels with calibrated tones can actually check your ears for frequency response and determine your specific accuracy or lack thereof....decibel level and sensitivity is the primary issue with ones hearing....most humans with normal hearing have a minimal perceived decibel change across the normal hearing spectrum...(30hz-15khz) some people can perceive a reasonable level at lower frequencies and some at higher, some people can have specific frequencies that have substantial decibel loss or dropouts which makes it difficult for them to perceive certain consonants in speech or specific bands of frequencies. Sort of like a notch filter...

Consonant confusion with sloping audiogram

And for the most part when doing a hearing test... you're the one who's pushing the button (no matter how faint the test tone might be) so it is a test that is your perception of what you hear and what you're brain distinguishes as sound...

Headphones tend to isolate the effect of horn loading to the ear canal and is why headphones can sound different than open air speakers. When you use headphones to monitor sound this is also why spatial changes or differences are easier to perceive.

Your hearing is you're hearing....it is what it is and unless you get your hearing checked professionally from time to time and you test with a relatively normal flat broadband frequency response....then you hear what you hear....the best you can hope for is good frequency response with little or no loss in levels across the spectrum of normal human hearing.......
Many people claim they hear something that really isn't there, in fact many can't hear certain things to begin with and don't even know that....it's their brain trying to make up stuff to make themselves think they have special hearing.....
If your color blind they won't let you be an Electrician (very dangerous situation and it usually affects males).....maybe a hearing test should be required for sound people before they're allowed to be sound engineers!
Old 19th November 2009
  #33
Lives for gear
 
Don S's Avatar
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by macc View Post
Plug-ons?

Or perhaps;

Lug-ins?

Instead of mic modeling software, we'll have "ear modeling"!
Old 19th November 2009
  #34
Lives for gear
 
Nordenstam's Avatar
 

Verified Member
Interesting topic! Porn stars casts and the implication for the pro audio world aside (casts of famous players fingers?), there have been anectodal notes of an experiment where students reshaped their ears and had to relearn the listening process. Searching... yes! PSW Recording Forums: Brad Blackwood => How to do something...I am stumped. - some intersting thoughts there, especially from P.P.


PS: Greets, Taylor! The new record from P is in progress and it's sounding very good!
Old 19th November 2009
  #35
kjg
Lives for gear
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by macc View Post
Well I drink more than her so I'd say mine's more transparent, her's is more coloured...

... sounding.
I imagine that must be a tricky thing to a/b.
Old 19th November 2009
  #36
Lives for gear
 
macc's Avatar
 

Verified Member
Especially when double blind testing... the mess is awful.
Old 19th November 2009
  #37
kjg
Lives for gear
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by macc View Post
Especially when double blind testing... the mess is awful.
Old 19th November 2009
  #38
Lives for gear
 
macc's Avatar
 

Verified Member
I like this thread more than the pseudo-political BS wafting around here atm
Old 19th November 2009
  #39
Lives for gear
Quote:
Originally Posted by macc View Post
I like this thread more than the pseudo-political BS wafting around here atm
You don't like pseudo-political BS? You are an odd duck! Must be those ears.

Mychal
Old 19th November 2009
  #40
Gear Head
 

To return to the serious implication of this thread...

When mastering I am aware that by tilting my head fowards whilst listening on speakers in the sweet spot, I can hear an emphasis of the top end around 6 - 8 k and up.

I use this phenomenon to check the top end detail, but always return my head to the normal upright listening position for final assessments. It becomes more important with ageing, as the top end of your hearing is diminished, as a means to more readily access the top end detail in EQing.

Yes I know, sadly its a fact of life, like loss of near reading sight in our eyes with ageing!
Old 23rd November 2009
  #41
Gear Addict
 
laboso's Avatar
 

i think that the shape of your ears doesnt really affect your sense of hearing things different than others and especially not your judge of gear... i can certainly confirm the effect you mentioned by testing it a few times for myself...

the reason i think so is because you have grown up with your individual pair of ears and made every fundamental experience and decision with it, its like your pair of monitors: every known man in here has a slightly different sounding monitor but has learned it through the years and made his experiences and decisions with it and learned what sounds "good" and what "bad"... this image of good and bad is stored in your brain and you've built this image with YOUR individual pair of ears through the years, so... its practically the same thing.

you can discuss about gear because it doesnt fit in your "good" image inside your brain soundwise, but not because of the shape of your ears
Old 23rd November 2009
  #42
Gear Maniac
 

Sometimes i feel like i hear things differently after a good meal vs. beeing very hungry. Not sure which one is better situation..
Old 25th November 2009
  #43
We do hear differently, but although most of us have no idea how differently, a group of engineers in a Sennheiser experiment found out and were surprised.
Around 1986, I think, Sennheiser outfitted a number of recording engineers each with a pair of their miniature stethoscope-like binaural mics to listen to and record a brief performance by some small ensemble. The mics were so small they went down the ear canals near the eardrums and minimally impaired the soundwaves from doing the same.
Each engineer's pair went to an adjacent pair of tracks on a multitrack recorder.
The idea was that by micing near the eardrum, the engineers' pinnae and ear canals would have maximum effect on the sound.
Afterwards, during replay by earphone (in-the-ear type, not headphone), each person was very easily able to identify the recording made through his own ears. Apparently the differences weren't subtle.
Old 29th November 2009
  #44
More cowbell!
 
natpub's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by djmukilteo View Post
....maybe a hearing test should be required for sound people before they're allowed to be sound engineers!
+1, annually
Old 29th November 2009
  #45
Lives for gear
 
Bob Yordan's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco View Post
LOL, Waves will probably have a bundle of engineer/producers' ears pretty soon as most of their advertising revolves around people, not gear.

Good topic. Your ears (and how they've helped you gain your experience and perception) are the last things people consider as "tools" for working with audio, when they are THE most important tools in your arsenal.

If you put up a picture of your ears on your website instead of your speakers, room and rack of gear, people would think it's a joke!
Earslutz
Post Reply

Welcome to the Gearslutz Pro Audio Community!

Registration benefits include:
  • The ability to reply to and create new discussions
  • Access to members-only giveaways & competitions
  • Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As
  • Access to members-only sub forum discussions
  • Access to members-only Chat Room
  • Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio Classifieds for only USD $20/year
  • Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free
  • Remove this message!
You need an account to post a reply. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered.


 
 
Slide to join now Processing…
Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Similar Threads
Thread
Thread Starter / Forum
Replies
Piranhadrum / The Moan Zone
24
sheltersoton / Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music and Location Recording
21
Ken Walker / So much gear, so little time
5
hduncan / So much gear, so little time
11
Jax / The Moan Zone
33

Forum Jump
Forum Jump