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Old 16th November 2009
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How could get access to warm mastering

I`ve just tried to get the warm and high quality in mastering with DAW n i just play through the rule but the result was collapsed.

1.cut 30hz

2.compressing(wave Lin mb)

3.stease frequency(frequlizer)

4.D sonic maximizing

5.warm up (brain worx)

6.oxford inflater

7.Peak limit

8.analyse

But I haven`t got the analogue stuff maybe that`s the reason.
Old 16th November 2009
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So you have cut, compressed, maximized and analized. Just use a good EQ to enhance those analog-like frequencies, somewhere on the low-mids...
Old 16th November 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johncruise View Post
I`ve just tried to get the warm and high quality in mastering with DAW n i just play through the rule but the result was collapsed.

1.cut 30hz

2.compressing(wave Lin mb)

3.stease frequency(frequlizer)

4.D sonic maximizing

5.warm up (brain worx)

6.oxford inflater

7.Peak limit

8.analyse

But I haven`t got the analogue stuff maybe that`s the reason.
You've got way too much in the chain!

You're asking the puter to do too much math!

A pair of nice converters, a good analog EQ and a nice analog comp would be the weopons of choice!
Old 16th November 2009
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You have too many maximiser plug-ins. Less is more.
Old 16th November 2009
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So you have cut, compressed, maximized and analized. Just use a good EQ to enhance those analog-like frequencies, somewhere on the low-mids...
I hope that was a joke?
Old 16th November 2009
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So you have cut, compressed, maximized and analized. Just use a good EQ to enhance those analog-like frequencies, somewhere on the low-mids...
I find a good analizer helps excrete some of the roughage in the mix. Comes out steaming and 98.6 degrees. Then I send it to a good engineer to polish the turd.
Old 16th November 2009
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EQ will bring warmth and balance when used properly.
Old 16th November 2009
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You've got way too much in the chain!

You're asking the puter to do too much math!

A pair of nice converters, a good analog EQ and a nice analog comp would be the weopons of choice!
thumbsup

thats it!
Old 16th November 2009
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I find a good analizer helps excrete some of the roughage in the mix. Comes out steaming and 98.6 degrees. Then I send it to a good engineer to polish the turd.



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EQ will bring warmth and balance when used properly.
Indeed! Warmth is mostly an EQ thing, with the crosstalk, noise and distortion of real analogue being less important when it comes to that sound. It may help in subtle ways, but it's not, IMHO, the quintessential feature of warm sound. You should be able to do it with some broad EQ strokes.
Old 16th November 2009
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warmth is achieved in tracking and mixing.
Old 16th November 2009
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It's been said already, EQ is the weapon of choice..
Old 16th November 2009
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Its hard to comment without listening but generally if mix is good (and it should be if you want a good master), none to small eq'ing (even plug-in) can be enough.
Old 16th November 2009
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You just have to make a warm mix first.
Old 16th November 2009
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So u mean the hardware EQ probably?

fuuck
Old 16th November 2009
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So u mean the hardware EQ probably?

fuuck
No, it's the operators skill. Get the mix right first.
Old 17th November 2009
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This is one of my forte's
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Old 20th November 2009
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Every step counts! If you want warmth, consider tube mics or pres on the way in, Input and Output transformers in preamps can also provide a different kind of color. As far as the mix goes, If you want warmth, use as little plug-ins as possible...(unless you have a UAD card or some Sonalksis).

Finally, find a way to run your final mixdowns through a nice/decent analog EQ and possibly an analog limiting amplifier with very very very slight gain reduction.

Another fun one if a tape machine is available, Is just to utilize the pre amps in a good tape machine. You don't have to go and spend all that money on tape if you don't want.

Just run the tracks through the preamps in a good tape machine...wont cost a dime if the tape machine is available.
Old 22nd November 2009
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I`ve just tried to get the warm and high quality in mastering with DAW n i just play through the rule but the result was collapsed.

1.cut 30hz

2.compressing(wave Lin mb)

3.stease frequency(frequlizer)

4.D sonic maximizing

5.warm up (brain worx)

6.oxford inflater

7.Peak limit

8.analyse

But I haven`t got the analogue stuff maybe that`s the reason.
Transfer flat to cassette tape then re-import.
Old 22nd November 2009
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Hi

Maybe you could try using OZONE Izotope or Waves Bundle with L2 Ultramaximizer. Audio before final master must be below 0dB at all frequencies. It is also important to have a reference CD before
mastering. Your pre-master data must be playing at 48000kHz and 24bit
or higher.

Hoping this will help!

Lougarcia
Audio Engineer/Recording/ Live Sound
www.Lougarcia.speedpost.net
Old 23rd November 2009
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Hi
Your pre-master data must be playing at 48000kHz and 24bit
or higher.
Thats not strictly true.
Old 24th November 2009
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Is the real issue here gaining "warmth" or preventing things from going "cold"?
In my experience it's the latter, and what you leave out is as important as anything else.
Old 24th November 2009
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In my experience, warmth is a meaningless term. Warm just means comfortable. It's when everything invites you in. Everything is easy to hear, and nothing is annoying. There's size and power. Warm just means good. But it's often used as a cover-up phrase for muddy or blurry.

Your mix may be too clouded, in which case you may need to open things up by removing unwanted frequencies. Or, your mix may be too thin - in which case compression and eq used harmoniously is your best bet. Or, it just might not be balanced.

Also, too much compression will take away from the sense of openness while emphasizing transient information which often contain "cold" frequencies.
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You would have been set in Sydney, it was 41 degrees on Sunday night.
Old 24th November 2009
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You would have been set in Sydney, it was 41 degrees on Sunday night.
Ohh Yeah!! That was hot!
And then, it rained for the next two... go figure!

KAyo
Old 24th November 2009
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You would have been set in Sydney, it was 41 degrees on Sunday night.
(105.8 F, for the others).
I blame it on the temperature...
Old 24th November 2009
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often times i find that when people refer to warmth it can often be achieved through low mid harmonic distortion. So using the uad pultec plugin boosting a little at 300hz can help out. I swear by the Fatso, so maybe the plugin version is good too. Obviously as everyone has suggested it's subjective, but too much processing will always kill it.
Old 25th November 2009
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Transfer flat to cassette tape then re-import.
hey, this sound very interesting to me. Are you using a standart tapedeck like sony, tascam etc. for this??
And do you make some saturation with this process? Please let me know more about.

cheers
Old 25th November 2009
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I`ve just tried to get the warm and high quality in mastering with DAW n i just play through the rule but the result was collapsed.

1.cut 30hz

2.compressing(wave Lin mb)

3.stease frequency(frequlizer)

4.D sonic maximizing

5.warm up (brain worx)

6.oxford inflater

7.Peak limit

8.analyse

But I haven`t got the analogue stuff maybe that`s the reason.
For high quality mastering ITB I'd invest in high quality plugins - especially an EQ. I could probably do fine with an Algoritmix Red, a Sonnox Limiter and an UAD with a couple of emulations. I only know half of what you are using, but none of it would be in my default setup...

BTW - why are you cutting 30Hz by default??
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