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Old 5th August 2008
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Do you still use words like "Record" and "Album"?

I'm in my mid-30s (and I'm also a dedicated audiophile/music freak/vinyl lover), so I can't seem to stop using words like "Record" and "Album" when I refer to new releases.

When you're mastering a client's CD, is it weird to refer to it as a "record"? Does that have specific associations with vinyl? Or, more importantly, is it a dated word now? Or is it still present? Do people even say "album" anymore? As in "the new album by..." The word "album" used to refer to the actual cardboard sleeve/gatefold that came as packaging for the vinyl disc. Obviously, that's not the case anymore.

I can't seem to stop using these terms, and nobody ever corrects me if I'm wrong.

What do you guys call 10-12 songs on a CD?

What do you call 10-12 tracks downloaded from iTunes?

Are either of these "records" or "albums"?

- c
Old 5th August 2008
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What do you guys call 10-12 songs on a CD?
An album.

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What do you call 10-12 tracks downloaded from iTunes?
An album.

Or "10-12 tracks", if they're not related.
Old 5th August 2008
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Don't you think that's a dated word now? Or has it passed into some new phase?

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Old 5th August 2008
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Outdated is a relative term when your dealing with the Tech community. I say this being almost 40 and just getting back into the business, and i feel like ive been thrown into some new demention of technology!
I call a group of tracks that are Downloaded Mp3's and as far as the word record - I've only really heard it used in context with studio work as reCORD. Havent heard the term used in reference to vinal in a while
Soon as i figure out where the "New Post" Button is I'll post a thread asking a bunch of really noobish question reguarding all the new technology i have been innundated with!
Old 5th August 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Sonya View Post

What do you guys call 10-12 songs on a CD?

What do you call 10-12 tracks downloaded from iTunes?

Are either of these "records" or "albums"?

- c
1) a commercial recording but I shorten it to record.
as it was originally a wax cylinder then a shellac disc then vinyl now polycarbonate.

2) crap because it is compressed.

an album is a singular release of a recording of music.

Last edited by Dale; 5th August 2008 at 06:21 PM.. Reason: details
Old 5th August 2008
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When I'm "recording" a band we are "tracking".

When I'm listening to a CD like the Beatles Revolver I am listen to an "Album".
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An "Album" is a collection of related items - Whether it's a photo album, a record(ed) album, etc., etc., etc.

And yes, I still say "record" -- When I'm talking about vinyl, I say "vinyl" or "black stacks of wax from the backs of the racks" or something.
Old 5th August 2008
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around me, eve the 20-30yr olds still call em "records" even if its just on iTunes.

trickle down habits (that are hard to kick)
Old 5th August 2008
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There is no reason to stop using the terms "record" or "album." The words refer to the work, not the medium. "LP" is another story.
"Record" = recording of a performance
"Album" = collection of recordings
Old 5th August 2008
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I wish bands wouldn't refer to their albums, which take weeks of hard work and loads of talent...as a "CD". A CD is something you can get 100 of for free at Staples if you have the right coupon on the right day. I just think it cheapens the overall value of the product.

Call it an album!

War
Old 5th August 2008
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A bit of trivia for you all -

Back in the days of 78rpm records, you got 3-5 minutes a side. If you bought a long work, like an opera or a symphony or any collection of songs longer than 10 minutes, they were packaged in a bound album with sleeves for pages that would hold the 6-12 78's it took to present the entire work. Hence, "album" became the word used to describe a recorded collection of songs. By the time we got to LP's, the word "album" was already an anachronism, so it's no less accurate to use it to describe a collection of songs on a CD.
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I use the words album and record, the bands from Pop to Stoner to Hardcore not only still understand me but use the same words themselves....... heh
Old 5th August 2008
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i still go by the terms record and album as for itunes i call those digital release because to me thats a new thing..
Old 6th August 2008
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Sure, we make records. "Album" also gets used from time to time. Those terms are reasonably format independent.

There are some archaic terms that still hang on though. Heck, I'm not at all shocked if someone says "print FX to tape" and they're recording to disk.

Some terms are definitely gone. I never use the term "side" to describe a single song (unless the union is involved).
Old 6th August 2008
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A record is a document in time, a historical statement. I use it a lot.

I don't use album very often, but some clients do, even the early 20s, and it's fine by me.
Old 6th August 2008
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I use them interchangeably, although I usually refer to a work in progress as relating to the 'album', and a recording that I own or wish to listen to (on any medium) as the record.

Old habits. It's all good.

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I wish bands wouldn't refer to their albums, which take weeks of hard work and loads of talent...as a "CD". A CD is something you can get 100 of for free at Staples if you have the right coupon on the right day. I just think it cheapens the overall value of the product.

Call it an album!

War
This works! Album conveys more value, gravitas, the right stuff ...
Old 6th August 2008
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Albums will be called albums even in 150 years from now, and I´ll keep saying
records and albums. Everybody in my enviroment is calling them that way.
Some things never change. As long as the music industry is releasing a bunch
of songs from one artist/group - it will be called an album.
Old 6th August 2008
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It might be not be a vinyl rekkid but it's still an album, an "EP" or a single on CD.
Heck, we even "cut" CD's...

Why do mobile phone cameras feature the 'click' of a shutter release..?
(an analogy - you don't really have to answer that).
Old 6th August 2008
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album,single,tracks,music,record,sound...

that's all I can say really!!! literally.
Old 6th August 2008
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There are some archaic terms that still hang on though. Heck, I'm not at all shocked if someone says "print FX to tape" and they're recording to disk.
That's me! I always refer to Protools as "tape", even if just to counter those idiots who call it "tools".
For some reason that word makes my skin crawl!
Old 6th August 2008
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Every so often, by mistake, I do.

Old 6th August 2008
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I still label CD discs that are album length with LP.

Johnny Songwriter "Tunes For The Ladies" LP

Joe
Old 6th August 2008
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Hiya

Single, Extended play EP, Long play LP.

Cd player, Record player.

The national radio in Sweden thinks that cd is something of the past.
Now they just have everything as data files in their system.

But they have a 'Grammophone archive' that includes vinyls & cd's.

In Swedish it is called platta or skiva (disc) and it can be applicable both for cd or vinyl.

I think I use Album? and Label instead of Record company.

Old 6th August 2008
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I need to stop referring to them as "8 tracks". Old habits die hard....
Old 6th August 2008
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I need to stop referring to them as "8 tracks". Old habits die hard....
What are you trying to say? Something about--------








(CLUNK)







------- 8-track tapes being old technology?
Old 6th August 2008
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There is no reason to stop using the terms "record" or "album." The words refer to the work, not the medium. "LP" is another story.
"Record" = recording of a performance
"Album" = collection of recordings
Exactly.
Old 7th August 2008
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.... Heck, I'm not at all shocked if someone says "print FX to tape" and they're recording to disk.
..
Right.

Commit processing to memory ain't gonna give anyone a hard-on.
Old 8th August 2008
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I like to wind up a platter on the Victrola every now and then.
Old 8th August 2008
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Did anyone here work on Hannah Montanna's latest wax cylinder?
Old 8th August 2008
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I say both album and record.

Sadly though, I still say 'printing the mix' when bouncing to stereo and 'rolling' when the DAW is in record.

I have also been known to say, 'Yes, the bass is routed straight to tape.' when there has been no tape in the studio for a good many years now.

Old habits die hard I suppose, but people do understand what I'm rattling on about, which is the most important thing.
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