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Ozone 9 Sounds "Constricted"?
Old 1 week ago
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Ozone 9 Sounds "Constricted"?

I recently purchased Ozone 9 and am using it to master an album for a client. I was trying to keep myself honest by not only using the "GAIN MATCH" feature, but also turning off Ozone 9 completely, and then turning up my monitors to compare the original 2 track, but at a "non processed" louder volume.

I noticed that it sounded more open, and the Ozone 9 with processing was more constricted sounding. So I think well, it's got be my over use of compression, etc. More experimenting led me to one by one bypassing the modules I was using within Ozone 9. Bottom line, I discovered that if I have Ozone 9 loaded on the stereo bus (using Cubase 10 for mastering), even if I have the modules bypassed, it "Constricts" the sound.

I wound up only using the maximizer module as a separate plugin, coupled with a couple other separate plugins, to achieve the desired results.

Shouldn't Ozone 9 have zero effect IF there are no modules active? Has anyone else experienced this? Clearly I have more experimenting to do.

Marc
Old 6 days ago
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Did Ozone 9 list "Constriction" in the product release notes by chance? I am really perplexed now.
Old 6 days ago
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You can confirm your findings using a null test. Have copy channel, put Ozone modules in bypass, flip polarity on one and see what is left.
Old 6 days ago
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What do you mean by constricted? Like, in terms of stereo width, or just generally kind-of over-compressed?
Old 5 days ago
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There certainly is a difference in sound between Ozone 8 and Ozone 9. Not quite sure what it is but a "difference". I noticed it the first time I used it after upgrading. FWIW
Old 5 days ago
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Originally Posted by Thomas W. Bethe View Post
There certainly is a difference in sound between Ozone 8 and Ozone 9. Not quite sure what it is but a "difference". I noticed it the first time I used it after upgrading. FWIW
The limiter in 8 and 9 null at the same settings. Testing I’ve done at least with the limiter module indicates that it nulls 100% with the source until processing occurs.
Old 4 days ago
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The limiter in 8 and 9 null at the same settings. Testing I’ve done at least with the limiter module indicates that it nulls 100% with the source until processing occurs.
OK but something still sounds "different". Not sure what it is or whether it is bad or good just "different", FWIW
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OK but something still sounds "different". Not sure what it is or whether it is bad or good just "different", FWIW
Null is the same scientifically. I thought it was different at first, but I realized I wasn't matching settings perfectly.

Music rebalance is enormously useful with amateur mixes.
Old 2 days ago
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What do you mean by constricted? Like, in terms of stereo width, or just generally kind-of over-compressed?
Yes, kind of an over compressed sound, but different somehow...which is why I struggled trying to explain it.
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