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Nice new plug in from Voxengo and it is free
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Nice new plug in from Voxengo and it is free

Check out Multi-Band Correlation Meter Plugin [VST, AU, AAX] - Correlometer | Voxengo

It is very interesting to see how masters check out with this plug in. FWIW
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When would you find this useful?
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When would you find this useful?
With the right color scheme and display settings it's very good at looking cool.

Seriously though, in a mastering context it could be useful for identifying antiphase content if strong mono compatibility is important for the song and target environment. Especially in the low end. Proper monitoring and listening experience let you know this too, of course.

Like any analysis tool it could be helpful occasionally if you know how to interpret it.
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IME, a mono swith will tell you more about mono compatibility than a meter.
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Yes of course it will. None of these analysis tools are really necessary or superior to other checking methods, I'm just offering an example of how someone may use it.
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is it more or less the same as what you find in the hofa analyzer (but for free)?
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When would you find this useful?
We do a lot of transfer work. We also do a lot of restoration. The plugin comes in very handy to see what frequencies are out of phase. A project we just finished had all the bass out of phase through out the whole two record sides. I could hear the problem but the meter was much more percise in figuring out where the phase was messed up.

Have you tried it? I just thought others would want to know about it.

I guess not!
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This is Voxengo! He doesn't make useless tools. Personally, I think this plugin is a bit more useful in a mixing environment and not so much as a mastering tool. I was working on a singer-songwriter, acoustic project and managed to move things around to make things breathe a bit better together. In this particular song, it was subtle, yet clearly preferable. More lively.
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Could come in handy indeed.
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This is Voxengo! He doesn't make useless tools.


voxengo is generally underrated, maybe because of the simple GUI's.
very sympatic company & alexey have great ears and skills.
he beaten often the "big software houses" .
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We do a lot of transfer work. We also do a lot of restoration. The plugin comes in very handy to see what frequencies are out of phase. A project we just finished had all the bass out of phase through out the whole two record sides. I could hear the problem but the meter was much more percise in figuring out where the phase was messed up.

Have you tried it? I just thought others would want to know about it.

I guess not!
Thanks for the info Thomas, this will be tested today as I have a Vinyle session coming in
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And a happy new year to everyone of course !
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Say you identify at which frequencies the program is uncorrelated, what can you do about it in a mastering context? I'm curious what you guys are doing with this information.

There was a Melda [Edit: Nugen] tool that had a way of folding difference signal into the sum, with a focus mainly on the low end. It had one of these multiband correlation meters in it which helped identify problematic areas of the spectrum. Pretty heavy handed and only for serious rescue work. I haven't done anything like that for years.

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Say you identify at which frequencies the program is uncorrelated, what can you do about it in a mastering context? I'm curious what you guys are doing with this information.

There was a Melda tool that had a way of folding difference signal into the sum, with a focus mainly on the low end. It had one of these multiband correlation meters in it which helped identify problematic areas of the spectrum. Pretty heavy handed and only for serious rescue work. I haven't done anything like that for years.
I use this plugin a lot for restoration work DrMS << Mathew Lane

And this one for vinyl Monofilter | NUGEN Audio


As usual try them and see if they do what you want them to do.

FWIW
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Say you identify at which frequencies the program is uncorrelated, what can you do about it in a mastering context? I'm curious what you guys are doing with this information.
Once in a while I get sent a mix with some stereo phase or polarity issue in just one instrument. Recently it was a stereo piano in a live Jazz recording. Some careful low mid EQ cuts to the side signal did some good. I didn't have a multiband correlation meter, but by ear it can be done sometimes, depending on the mix.

I'll demo this plug-in. It'll be interesting to visualize what's happening when I'm mucking around with mid-side EQ. What the heck - it's free...

Thanks Thomas!
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