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Desperately need a linear headphone, price no object, everything I tried is garbage Studio Headphones
Old 16th October 2018
  #271
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Originally Posted by Jerry Tubb View Post
Once again we’re on the same page Dave!

I’ve been using my Grados (several pair, as they wear out) for 15+ years.

Eric Johnson’s (& SRV) engineer brought them over one day and said “listen to these!”

I was an immediate convert, from my trusty flawed AKG closed cups.

They’re so easy to learn, just naturally sounded “right” and “flat” first time i listened.

But i think a lot of the obsession here, are guys that do lots of EDM without proper rooms & monitors,

and are looking for a quick easy solution.

best, jt
If you like Grados try the e-Grados for $50- surprisingly comfortable and have the 60's drivers. Astonishingly robust,,,,,, sound great very natural
Old 8th November 2018
  #272
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Yeah dude I know I'm not about to sell my lipinskis and my near acoustically perfect studio room and start mastering from my laptop with a pair of headphones. I've been a mastering engineer for over a decade and in that time exclusively worked on speakers.

I am not asking for much though, I am only asking for a headphone which is better than the HD650 so I can give reasonably accurate mix pointers and judge which stems I need (if any) for mixes to masters which I will then do at my studio when I get back off holiday!

I went out and bought an LCD2 and a HD650, I'm at my studio, I've been doing some listening tests between my monitors and the headphones and I can confirm that the HD650 is by a massive margin FAR superior to the more expensive LCD2 headphone, to the point where I am laughing at the LCD2 and would chuck it out the window for dramatic effect if I hadn't paid 1300€ for the piece of junk.

The HD650 is "fairly" close to my monitors. As close as I have experienced from a pair of headphones.

However the HD650 costs only 300€ and for an extra 4700€ can I really NOT GET ANYTHING BETTER????? Everything more expensive, or otherwise put, anything other than the HD650 seems to be WORSE in some way regardless of price. Can someone please take my money and give me something marginally better than a cheap piece of plastic run of the mill 2 a penny HD650 FFS???
@OneMillionMangos: Have you found a favourite now? Are you still with the hd650?

Would be very interesting to hear were your journey ended.
Old 8th November 2018
  #273
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I think he's long outta mangos...... bailed around the 3rd page of this tome.......
Old 16th November 2018
  #274
It's quite simple. Choose any headphone model from Sonarworks supported models list: Reference 4 supported headphones | Sonarworks

All cans are colored to some extent but their calibration plugins flattens them.

End of thread.
Old 17th November 2018
  #275
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Not the end since Sonarworks does not model speakers hence the Can Opener
Old 18th November 2018
  #276
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Digital modeling to make headphones sound flat and accurate is really funny to me.

It's a travesty a sham and a mockery.

It's a traveshamockery
Old 18th November 2018
  #277
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Originally Posted by tonejunkee View Post
It's quite simple. Choose any headphone model from Sonarworks supported models list: Reference 4 supported headphones | Sonarworks

All cans are colored to some extent but their calibration plugins flattens them.
"Ultimate accuracy (+/-0.9dB) can only be achieved with a custom-made calibration profile for an individual headphone set." - Sonarworks

Each pair of headphones sounds a bit different, so an individual calibration would be needed. +-0.9dB is a pretty wide span.

Also, this tool will only help you with the frequency response and no other important details in the sound. It may also add new issues to the sound.
Old 18th November 2018
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Originally Posted by tonejunkee View Post
It's quite simple. Choose any headphone model from Sonarworks supported models list: Reference 4 supported headphones | Sonarworks

All cans are colored to some extent but their calibration plugins flattens them.

End of thread.
To add to the above post, sonarworks will get you in the ballpark but you need better phones to really hear dynamic/imaging resolution thats closer to what speakers can do. Cheaper headphones don't really pick those out.
Old 18th November 2018
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Digital modeling to make headphones sound flat and accurate is really funny to me.

It's a travesty a sham and a mockery.

It's a traveshamockery
Part of me doesn't want to write counter arguments to these posts because I don't want this to catch on faster.
Old 18th November 2018
  #280
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“Traveshamockery.” I like that.
One man’s snake oil is another man’s elixir of life. I don’t care if the engineer’s Teddy Bear has to do a headphone check to approve the mix. In the end, what does the product sound like?
Old 19th November 2018
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Just having some fun.

To each his own..

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