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Fostex 80 or 4 track Cassette
Old 28th March 2012
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Fostex 80 or 4 track Cassette

OK Im a poor man with hardly any money. So I've come to low end theory to ask you folks on which choice I should make. Im currently using a four track cassette deck which in my opinion sounds MUCH better than going straight to DAW. There is an ad on craigslist for a fostex 80 with mixer that I can get for prob 300. Or I could spen about 150 for a good 4 track cassette. I know the prices are high but that's what the bids always seem to go to. So thats what I gotta pay.

I also have a friend who has a 4 track teac reel that I am going to use to bounce my my final mixes to.. If that changes anyones opinion on things.
Old 28th March 2012
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The fostex 80 will be better than a casstte 4 track any day of the week. For some reason, an open reel deck opens the sound up much better than casstte. I used to have a few 4 track porta studios in later 80s and early 90s. I also had a techniques 1/4 open reel that sounded even better than the casstttes and it was from the 70s back then as well.

I have 2 ms16 decks that I have had for years and years now, and I record all my tracks to it first then dump them into the DAW to get the best of both worlds.

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Old 28th March 2012
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Awesome that's kinda what I thought. I know that the fostex 80 is one of the worst recording reels out there. So I wasnt quite sure if it was worth getting. Plus I only here bad things about it. As for four track cassette tapes some people seem to love them and some seem to hate them. There are alot of threads on here about 4 track cassette and none about the fostex 80
Old 28th March 2012
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Go with the Fostex
Old 28th March 2012
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Awesome that's kinda what I thought. I know that the fostex 80 is one of the worst recording reels out there. So I wasnt quite sure if it was worth getting. Plus I only here bad things about it. As for four track cassette tapes some people seem to love them and some seem to hate them. There are alot of threads on here about 4 track cassette and none about the fostex 80
Yes you are right the The fostex 80 is not the best, nor was it even close to that back when it was out, but it will sound better than a cassette 4 track. Not that I hated the 4 track cassette format, I liked it when I was a teenager, but grew out of it, in more ways than one.

Now the issue with the Fostex is that the track width is going to be VERY VERY small, so you will have a lot less headroom, and you will need to be careful with how hard you hit the channels, since they are so small crosstalk is more likely, and will more easily happen.

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Old 28th March 2012
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Yeah, that's a little bit of a bummer. I like to to hit the recordings pretty hard (especially for drums). I might use it like a four track and use every other track, or maybe send all the tracks doubled to the tape? Not really sure how I'll approach it. The music I play is pretty trashy so crosstalk isn't that big of a deal I suppose
Old 30th October 2015
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Hwy, does anyone know if the teac 80-8 has simul sync function?
Old 2nd November 2015
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I agree Fostex 80 is good unit, but there are cassette 4tracks that could even compete with that, namely Akai MG614.
And there are high-end cassette 8 tracks, like Tascam 688.


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I like to to hit the recordings pretty hard (especially for drums).
In my experience with various cassette multitrackers, crosstalk is less an issue than distorting, when hitting hard.
But it can be done even with a cassette multitracker - the key word is compression. Many of them have on-board dbx chip per track, which will greatly help to avoid distortion, if you hit recording into red.
But yes, cassette multitracker will distort sooner that R2R deck, and might have more crosstalk.
BTW, when speaking of high-ends like Tascam 688 - they made special heads to avoid crosstalk.



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I might use it like a four track and use every other track, or maybe send all the tracks doubled to the tape? Not really sure how I'll approach it.
Thats not needed, don't bother.


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The music I play is pretty trashy so crosstalk isn't that big of a deal I suppose
Have in mind that Fostex 80 (just as any other R2R) are way more fiddly for maintenance and recording than a cassette multitracker.
Cassette thingy is great way to start and learn, and if one does that right, even the *good* sound will come out.
Many A list bands did their first albums on cassette multitrackers...
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