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Old 15th May 2006
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pre amp in PT

Wich pre amps in the standard 'hardware' of protools.
I know those are focusrites but don't know which ones
I think it is a pt tdm system, if that's matter

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Old 15th May 2006
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There are no built in preamps for TDM systems.

888/24 is only 8 channels of ad/da. No mic pres

192's are 8 channels of ad/da, with aes in/out, and an expansion bay for 8 more a/d, or 8 more d/a.

Digi does make an 8 channel remote control mic pre... named... pre... but i don't belive those are 'focusrite' mic pres.

The old mbox has 'focusrite' mic pres.

The control24 has 'focusrite' mic pres.

The 002 systems have no name mic pres.

Why are you asking, by the way? Just because it has the focusrite name on it, usually doesn't make it anything special. ESPECIALLY on the old mbox, and the control24.
Old 15th May 2006
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Originally Posted by Thumper
There are no built in preamps for TDM systems.

The old mbox has 'focusrite' mic pres.

The control24 has 'focusrite' mic pres.

The 002 systems have no name mic pres.
I gues it's a control24 then. it is certainly not mbox ,001 or 002

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Why are you asking, by the way? Just because it has the focusrite name on it, usually doesn't make it anything special.
Yes i know, i always thought the platiium series pres where crap
but a buddy did a recording in a mixerless setup with protools and with the 'buildin' focusrite pres.
It sounded realy nice. i know there are a lot of factors then the pre's
but for some reason i think it got something to do with it
Old 15th May 2006
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The Digi002 pres sound like thin cardboard. I never use them.
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The Digi002 pres sound like thin cardboard. I never use them.
Then how do you know what they sound like? heh

Come on man... They aren't that bad. I've only used them a couple of times, but I thought that they were very usable.

As far as the original post question, I don't believe that the Focusrites on the Control24 are available anywhere other than the 24. I could be wrong though.
Old 15th May 2006
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The Digi002 pres sound like thin cardboard. I never use them.

That's a pretty uninformed, ******** statement. What the hell does cardboard sound like anyway, I mean I've heard drums called that but micpre's? I record songs all the time with the 002 pre's. Here's a simple song I recorded with primarily the 002r pre's.


http://www.jscstudios.com/music/AcousticSong.mp3
Old 15th May 2006
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well uh...
The pre's in the Control 24 are referred to as Focusrites class A..
All the pre's in Focusrites platinum range like octopre are called class A too.
Should we now assume these are the same?

I really don't know..
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well uh...
The pre's in the Control 24 are referred to as Focusrites class A..
All the pre's in Focusrites platinum range like octopre are called class A too.
Should we now assume these are the same?

I really don't know..

Probably pretty close to the same, not spectacular no, but very usable.
Old 15th May 2006
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Originally Posted by Jamstudio
Wich pre amps in the standard 'hardware' of protools.
I know those are focusrites but don't know which ones
I think it is a pt tdm system, if that's matter

Remco
If you're referring to the preamps that show up in the hardware setup its the "Pre" made by Digidesign. 8 channel unit, software controllable.
Old 16th May 2006
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If you're referring to the preamps that show up in the hardware setup its the "Pre" made by Digidesign. 8 channel unit, software controllable.
Yeah. Ever hear of anyone using them, though? Didn't think so.

I know of 3 units at different locations, collecting dust, and waiting to become 'vintage.'
Old 16th May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommylicious
well uh...
The pre's in the Control 24 are referred to as Focusrites class A..
All the pre's in Focusrites platinum range like octopre are called class A too.
Should we now assume these are the same?

I really don't know..
They are a cheaper and scaled down version of the platinum series stuff.. Think sub- platinum series quality... They are usable for utility things, but I prefer at least one great channel for vocals.
Old 16th May 2006
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Yeah. Ever hear of anyone using them, though? Didn't think so.

I know of 3 units at different locations, collecting dust, and waiting to become 'vintage.'

Agreed, pretty dumb move by Digi. Why would you buy a mic pre from a company that obsoletes it's hardware every 5 years or so ? I'm a big PT fan but the Digi Pre is such waste of time and money.
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Yeah. Ever hear of anyone using them, though? Didn't think so.

I know of 3 units at different locations, collecting dust, and waiting to become 'vintage.'
alot of people use them they are good clean pres and you dont need a HD system to use them.
its analogue hardware how will it become obsolutle, unless you consider neve API etc pres obsolutle aswell.
Grace and JLM pres can be controlled the same way.
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alot of people use them they are good clean pres and you dont need a HD system to use them.
its analogue hardware how will it become obsolutle, unless you consider neve API etc pres obsolutle aswell.
Grace and JLM pres can be controlled the same way.
I said vintage. Vintage usually equals more people liking them, and in turn, a higher value.

I don't know about in the Down Under, but here in the States, I've never seen them used. But I HAVE seen them sitting around, in the storage shelves.
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sorry the statment about becoming bsolute was directed at rob
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And my comment still stands. The lure of the Digi Pre is it's integration with PT, not it's amazing sound. And when Digi moves on in hardware is anyone really going to keep the Pre ? Sorry, I'd rather buy some OSA, API, Daking, whatever - stuff that won't be crippled in 5 years.
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when Digi moves on in hardware is anyone really going to keep the Pre ?
why not? the pre is not limited to PT, there are a number of people who use a PRE but do not have PT HD. how is it any different from any other remote controlable pre? how is it going to get 'crippled'? are all the other remote controlable pres going to become obsolete when digidesign moves past the current version of HD?
it may not be your flavour and the money may be better spent but that doesnt mean it isnt another persons flavour and it doesnt make mean its going to get 'cribbled'. it sounds like your just jumping on the 'bash' digi bandwagon
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