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good ribbon mic for guitar amp
Old 25th February 2012
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Just an fyi, the Fathead and Fathead II sound exactly the same. I have both and can't tell them apart.
Old 25th February 2012
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R121 or rca44
Old 25th February 2012
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R121 or rca44
Those are great mics and would do the job amazingly well, but they're not very 'Low End Theory'
Old 25th February 2012
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The CAD Trion 7000 is pretty cheap these days, that might be worth a look. Stock it's ok, modded (mine is Oktavamod) is an option down the line, as it is would be for most of the "low-end" suggestions here.
Old 26th February 2012
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shinybox 46L.
end of thread.
Old 26th February 2012
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The CAD Trion 7000 is pretty cheap these days, that might be worth a look. Stock it's ok, modded (mine is Oktavamod) is an option down the line, as it is would be for most of the "low-end" suggestions here.
How's it sound after the mod and what exactly does he mod. I have a 7000 lying around...
Old 27th February 2012
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Just an fyi, the Fathead and Fathead II sound exactly the same. I have both and can't tell them apart.
I KNOW I read that the Fathead and Fathead II are indeed the same mic. The only differences being cosmetic. I am pretty sure the Cascade web site says this.
Old 27th February 2012
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How's it sound after the mod and what exactly does he mod. I have a 7000 lying around...
A lot more at the lower end. Overall a lot more realistic, almost shocking that what I heard recorded was the same as the sound at the amp cab.

I think the mod is a new ribbons (there are two in the Trion), new output transformer, and I think less headbasket mesh. It's whatever he does for ribbon mods at Oktavamod.
Old 27th February 2012
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+111111 another vote for Fat Heads and Shiny Box (unless you can afford a Royer or Coles)
...be sure to get the upgraded Lundahl output transformers (Fat Head)
Old 28th February 2012
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I KNOW I read that the Fathead and Fathead II are indeed the same mic. The only differences being cosmetic. I am pretty sure the Cascade web site says this.
Yeah, it does say it, but the fact that I can buy them a couple of years apart, and they sound exactly the same speaks to Cascade's quality control. The difference is just a little heftier shock mount for the Fathead II to fit the bigger body. They're really good mics. Pull them out a couple of feet from the cab and the sound is totally effortless and natural.
Old 28th December 2012
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RCA BK-5b thru an RCA BA-21a... DONE!
Old 28th December 2012
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RCA BK-5b thru an RCA BA-21a... DONE!
Maybe so, but certainly not on a 'low-theory' thread kind of budget. Same goes for one of the wonderful AEA mics--not in this budget, I would think.
Old 28th December 2012
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Right... found this thread thru search and didn't even notice I was in "Low End Theory"... my apologies.

Fathead it is then!
Old 29th December 2012
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Right... found this thread thru search and didn't even notice I was in "Low End Theory"... my apologies.

Fathead it is then!
Old 25th July 2016
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trying to avoid paying the full price of the 121 as well will bump thread for 2016 recs
Old 25th July 2016
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S.E Voodoo It sounds great, but most importantly it can cope with stupid amounts of volume. Killer on drums as well
Old 8th November 2016
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If you search the bay or Reverb, it is possible to find Royer 101's for about $500. I picked mine up for $450 about 6 months ago. Maybe that's not low budget enough, but you probably won't find a better sounding ribbon for a guitar, IMO.
Old 8th November 2016
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Years ago I bought a used Apex 210 for $50 that needed the ribbon reset. After figuring that out, and managing not to break it, I put it on my guitar cab and was instantly thrilled at how it sounded. I have since used other ribbon mics, and even modded the Nady, but IMHO you just can't go wrong with any working ribbon on a guitar cab. Even the cheapest sound better than all the other mics I tried, which included SM57 (with and without impedance matching), Oktava 319 and MK-012, and an original CAD e100, which is what I would use if I had no ribbon.
Since guitar speakers don't put out much over 8K hz, I don't think the quality of the mic is as important as it would be if you were recording voice or an acoustic instrument. What's important is the design and simplicity of the ribbon mic itself.
If the mic is in good shape, you should be happy with the sound. And don't forget to use it on bass, along with a direct signal, if you want a big fat, low end.
As another poster mentioned, you can always get it modded later.
Old 8th November 2016
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Another fan here of the SM57 + Ribbon combo on cabs. I have a pair of Fathead II's (both with the Lundahl upgrades) as well as a Royer R121. Comparatively the Fatheads have a little more self-noise and more upper freq detail than the Royer but I reach for the Royer more often (it sounds smoother). Also the Cloudlifters mentioned by others are great on ribbon mics if you want more detail and openness in the tone. I have a pair of the CL-1's and a CL-Z and they are all worth the money IMHO. I use them with both the Fatheads and the R121 as needed.

Other good mics that can be swapped out for either the SM57 or the ribbons are the Shure SM58, Sennheiser MD421 (get an older one if possible...I love my U5), e609, and e906 and the Audix i5. They are all different sounding and all have their unique strengths/weaknesses, but I use all of these mics in various combinations on cabs and they are all worth having on hand.
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