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Outboard EQ in this day and age... Equalisers (HW)
Old 2nd January 2011
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Outboard EQ in this day and age...

Okay, have been working on largely electronic music outside the box for the first time in a while, and have been looking for a quality parametric eq on the cheaps... up to around $300. Not looking for a mastering eq just something for creative sculpting.

Following the advice from the last month's searching on GS and elsewhere, I've concluded that the standard recommendations for lowend eq no longer hold. Either they are extremely rare, or the price has risen to less than bargain prices.

Units such as the dbx 242 are highly recommended, but I'll be damned if I can find one single one in all the United States. The cheap Orban 622b is no longer cheap...

So, like, where's all the eq at?
Old 2nd January 2011
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I'm pretty fond of the tone knobs on the Yamaha PM700. I don't know how much they go for, but I think it's pretty cheap. It has an amplifier on the front end, which is going to color the signal - but you can also drive it a little too.

The Waves LinEQ is great - but it's not analog, and it will chomp into your cpu.
Old 2nd January 2011
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I'd like an answer to this question myself
Old 2nd January 2011
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Rane makes some pretty decent but reasonably priced EQs... you can often find used ones for cheap on eBay.
Old 2nd January 2011
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Thanks, any Rane models in particular that I (we )should focus on?
Old 2nd January 2011
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you can get better eq plugins for $300 then you can hardware a $300 eq is proably going to have a high noise floor and be limited where a plug in bundle won't be also theres the round trip d/a a/d and the fact you have to compesate latency and have to print to disk if you want to use it on more tracks
Old 2nd January 2011
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Thats all well and good, and I appreciate that advice, I have myself saying that to myself, constantly... but I'm developing a profound affection for making music with the computer OFF.

What my workflow is beginning to look like is various sound sources, voice, bass guitar, samplers, synths, turntables coming into a sampling keyboard, where sounds are tweaked and are sequenced to an extent, and then usually shuttled back out to other samplers or synths for further cutting, rearranging, mangling and then back into the comp for mixing and further arranging. I'd like to have the ability to do shaping in between devices before this stuff hits the box.

FWIW
Old 2nd January 2011
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Thanks, any Rane models in particular that I (we )should focus on?
I would be looking for a used PE 15 or PE 17. I see these are now discontinued... but can often be found on eBay.

In fact... there is currently an auction for a PE 17 on eBay right now
Old 2nd January 2011
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Am I looking for trouble trying to work with two mono eq's to handle stereo sources?
Old 2nd January 2011
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Am I looking for trouble trying to work with two mono eq's to handle stereo sources?
Not at all. In fact stereo EQ or compressors are usually made of two identical mono modules. This is also why they are usually advertised as "dual channel" and not "stereo". But I'm going to venture to guess that the majority of the people purchase these to use on a stereo source rather than 2 separate mono sources.
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To the OP:

try finding some used Rane PE15 - pretty decent.

Even better quality, find a Klark Teknik DN405 mono or DN410 stereo eq.

Or, on a dirtier/more flavoured/lo-fi side, find a Tascam PE40 (but check out for pot crackling).

The not very flexible nor totally and really "parametric" half rack ART TubeEq or the twin, whole rack Dual TubeEq could do things sounding quite beyond its' budget, if I remember correctly.

All of the above now discontinued - to be looked for in used gear.

And, on a budget, don't forget the (new, modern stuff) little Presonus EQ3B.

All fit into the rather inexpensive & great deal category...

Happy searching,

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Old 2nd January 2011
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TLA's EQ-2 is a lovely-sounding EQ for not much money, if you shop around.
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TLA's EQ-2 is a lovely-sounding EQ for not much money, if you shop around.

Absolutely right & true!
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And that gets U already well ou of the "lowend eq" territory and into somewhere a lot nicer alltogether, in my opinion & experience.
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TLA stuff seems quite a bit more rare in the US. Very rarely see used TLA wares.
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I went on this search awhile ago, but came up empty handed. It would seem that most "low end" gear focus is on compressors, and EQ is left by the wayside unless you grab a mixer with onboard EQ's. Maybe FMR has something cool in the works that will be the PBC 6A of EQ's.
Old 2nd January 2011
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Just picked up an Orban 622b. We'll see how it sounds.
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Just picked up an Orban 622b. We'll see how it sounds.
Nice!!
Old 3rd January 2011
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The Orban 622 is a great piece if you can find one for a fair price. Over the last year they ranged from $175-350+ on ebay. Another decent stereo parametric for low $ is the Ashly SC-66 for around $200.

Mike
Old 3rd January 2011
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i had a behringer t1951 and followed this guy's instructions...
SUPER BEHRINGER TUBE EQ SECRET WEAPON MOD - SkratchLounge
it sounded pretty good after changing the transformers, resistors, tubes, and caps, wasn't good enough for mastering, but i think it's what u r looking for...
Old 3rd January 2011
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Was looking at one of those for $75 bucks. Lost it by a dollar in an ebay auction. Might have to do a fair amount of work on the orban. I get the impression it is totally stock.
Old 3rd January 2011
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The Orban 622 is a great piece if you can find one for a fair price. Over the last year they ranged from $175-350+ on ebay. Another decent stereo parametric for low $ is the Ashly SC-66 for around $200.

Mike
Paid on the high end of that, and I'm concerned the unit isn't in the greatest shape.
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