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Female Vocals. which sub $500 mic Condenser Microphones
Old 3rd April 2010
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Female Vocals. which sub $500 mic

Female Vocals you don't here enough about them on here. every time I do a search for a mic i might be interested I here the same thing " its good for low male vocals"

so I'm looking for a mic that will get me through a demo with a 17 year old girl. she has a beautiful voice she does a lot of pop stuff

I've been looking at a blue baby bottle,an oktava 319, or if I'm luck a used rode k2

thoughts?
Old 3rd April 2010
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Bees neez Jade Studio series

Bees Neez Microphones
Old 3rd April 2010
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Decent preamp-->sm57-->a bit of eq. Do the vocals in the control room.

Apparently, that worked for Sade. heh
Old 4th April 2010
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The usual suggestions around $500 for pop female vocals:

SM7b
Baby Bottle
AT4050
KSM32
ADK TC
K2
Old 4th April 2010
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also, apex 460. sounds great with an upgraded tube. the C12 is one of the definitive female vocal mics and the 460 is a chinese c12 clone. swap the 12ax7 for a 6072a and run with it!
Old 4th April 2010
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Avant CV-12
Old 4th April 2010
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Maria Cary has used the CAD8000 with some success.

I think a great deal of the quality of advice for female-17 range is going hinge on what the persons voice sounds like.

In any studio there is not a one size fits all when it comes to female vocals that is why they have so many in their locker.
With that in mind she has a beautiful voice she does a lot of pop stuff is not much to go on.

There are several female "pop" singers with beautiful voices I can think of off the top of my head, each one of them unique in their own way and requiring a different mic to make their voices shine.

One may sound best with a ribbon mic the other a condenser tube, some good names have been given, but there is no guarantee than any of these are going to be exceptional for her specifically.

since you say it's just a demo tho you should be alright with a few of the for mentioned.

keep shinin

jerm
Old 4th April 2010
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Bees neez Jade Studio series

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LMFAO! He said sub $500, not sub $1500
Old 4th April 2010
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I also agree with the CV-12 suggestion it has a nice tone quality, great to tell a story, but I don't think it should be pushed real hard, the top of a K2 would be tones better.
Old 5th April 2010
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Yep the edgiest, coolest guy at Shenanigans. .......
That's like being the smartest kid with down syndrome!!! ......



keep shinin

jerm
Old 6th April 2010
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On the used market, you might be able to find a KSM44 or AKG C414 TLII for around $500. Either of those can work nicely with female vox, and you can use them on plenty of other stuff as well.
Old 6th April 2010
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If you can answer these questions I could tell you exactly what type of mic to buy.

Buget: $500
Male/Female: Female
Genre: Pop

Well we know this much so now the questions...

What is her vocal register?
What is her timbre like?
Does she sing from the gut / chest / throat?
Does she sing mostly loud or quiet?
How is your live room treated and how big is it?
What preamps do you have?
Do you want to capture her in a realistic form or hyped?
How do you want her to sound?
Old 6th April 2010
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Maria Cary has used the CAD8000 with some success.


She wouldn't be caught dead singing into that mic. You mean she records with a Sony c800g. BIG difference!
Old 6th April 2010
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She wouldn't be caught dead singing into that mic. You mean she records with a Sony c800g. BIG difference!
yup, the c800g, u87, u47, c12, elam 251... those are MC's mics.
Old 6th April 2010
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Yep the edgiest, coolest guy at Shenanigans. .......
That's like being the smartest kid with down syndrome!!! ......



keep shinin

jerm
Who are you referring to in your post? It is very insulting and to more than one person. You know someone with down syndrome?

If everybody would have down syndrome, there are a couple of gadgets we wouldn't have, but there wouldn't be wars either, really.
Old 6th April 2010
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Who are you referring to in your post? It is very insulting and to more than one person. You know someone with down syndrome?

If everybody would have down syndrome, there are a couple of gadgets we wouldn't have, but there wouldn't be wars either, really.
chill out, man! he's quoting a line from the movie: "Waiting"
Old 6th April 2010
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If you can answer these questions I could tell you exactly what type of mic to buy.

Buget: $500
Male/Female: Female
Genre: Pop

Well we know this much so now the questions...

What is her vocal register?
What is her timbre like?
Does she sing from the gut / chest / throat?
Does she sing mostly loud or quiet?
How is your live room treated and how big is it?
What preamps do you have?
Do you want to capture her in a realistic form or hyped?
How do you want her to sound?
she is a mezzo soprano
she sings from her chest/ throat
she sings loud
I record in a 8' tall, 4' wide, 10' long and I just use comforters to deaden the sound.
I'm only using the digi pres right now (don't judge I have good plugins at least)

I want to capture her in a realistic for

and I want her to sound smooth and warm in the mix.
Old 6th April 2010
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she is a mezzo soprano
she sings from her chest/ throat
she sings loud
I record in a 8' tall, 4' wide, 10' long and I just use comforters to deaden the sound.
I'm only using the digi pres right now (don't judge I have good plugins at least)

I want to capture her in a realistic for

and I want her to sound smooth and warm in the mix.
adk hamburg...
Old 6th April 2010
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chill out, man! he's quoting a line from the movie: "Waiting"
Is that really common knowledge
Old 6th April 2010
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On the used market, you might be able to find a KSM44 or AKG C414 TLII for around $500. Either of those can work nicely with female vox, and you can use them on plenty of other stuff as well.
+1 for the ksm44.
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Is that really common knowledge
YouTube - Waiting: Mitch's Rant/The Goat
Old 6th April 2010
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Is that really common knowledge
As common knowledge as LMFAO, or at least as google-able. try it, see what comes up.

You know I almost wasn't going to put the second part of that line in the post, for obvious reasons......but it just didn't seem the same without it.

keep shinin

jerm
Old 6th April 2010
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The SM7b is hard to beat for the price IMO. It is said to have a very similar frequency response to the SM57, which would also work quite well for most vocals with a bit of EQ/Compression. (same with the sm7b). The 57 would be alright if you were on a really really tight budget. (the SM7b is still better than the 57 for vocals.)
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Old 7th April 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fendert View Post
she is a mezzo soprano
she sings from her chest/ throat
she sings loud
I record in a 8' tall, 4' wide, 10' long and I just use comforters to deaden the sound.
I'm only using the digi pres right now (don't judge I have good plugins at least)

I want to capture her in a realistic for

and I want her to sound smooth and warm in the mix.
Hmmm, there's not too many options under $500.
For smooth and warm an Shure SM7b would be a very safe call. It'll also save you some money.
Old 7th April 2010
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I'm 31, but those kids today!
Yes, the ones that survive all the car crashes will be known as the text generation.

keep shinin

jerm
Old 7th April 2010
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Yeah, the SM7b has a natural sound to it and I think that's better and easier to work with than having a dry or brittle sound of a cheap condenser...not that a sub $500 condenser is cheap, just some of them. Even though it's a dynamic, the SM7b can sound like a condenser with the right EQ and compression (like I said earlier )
Rob Cavallo used an SM7 on Paramore's Brand New Eyes album for most of the songs. (i.e Misguided Ghosts...(not Brick By Boring Brick (they used a c800g on that))...but that's all taken from studio videos and articles.
Old 7th April 2010
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If the SM7b doesn't float your boat and you want a condenser try looking into the Audio Technica AT4040.
And if it's gotta be tube try the Rode K2.

Best of luck.
Old 7th April 2010
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This might be getting too specific, but is your studio treated? Just wondering because that will help a lot with a condenser.
Old 7th April 2010
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If the SM7b doesn't float your boat and you want a condenser try looking into the Audio Technica AT4040.
And if it's gotta be tube try the Rode K2.

Best of luck.

ok say I get an SM7B what pre-amp could I get away with to go with it at about the $ 500-600 range?

or do I even need one?
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