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DBX 160 (x,xt,a) Dynamics Processors (HW)
Old 7th October 2010
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What about the 166?

I have an old one which I really like on a few things. Been thinking of getting a couple 160's but then have been told that the two are almost exactly the same.
Is this true? Should I just get another 166 instead?
Old 7th October 2010
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The 165 is related but a different design. It was the queen mother 2RU mono unit with adjustable attack, release, and that big compression knob. The first one to add switchable soft knee/ hard knee as well I think.
On that topic, what do you 160X, XT, A users use the hard knee setting on?
Don't forget the infamous Peak Stop on the 165A. Either you love it or you hate it.
Old 8th October 2010
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What about the 166?

I have an old one which I really like on a few things. Been thinking of getting a couple 160's but then have been told that the two are almost exactly the same.
Is this true? Should I just get another 166 instead?
The 166 gets slammed by some folks, but I like my 166A. Not sure how different it is from the 166, though...
Old 9th November 2010
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I agree, but dbx117 needs a modification to be half as useful like his brothers.

http://www.untrue.ch/test/dbx117/dbx...er_nachher.jpg

(just an example)
nice link. have you tried this mod yourself? i have a 118 i'd like to change from -10 to +4 but haven't had a look inside yet. I'm also looking for info on whether there is any internal jumpers or such for changing from 110 volts to 240 volts.thumbsupthumbsup
Old 29th January 2012
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I read this thread a million times before buying a 160x. After owning one for the past month and convincing myself otherwise, I've come to the conclusion that it makes my drums (MPC4000) sound sharper, but much thinner. Also grainier and WAAY less bassey, how do you guys use this for kick drums?! EQ more bass in afterwards? Is that a good thing to do?

I've realized I will completely bypass this compressor for programmed drums, but will still probably hang onto it for punchy synth leads and synth basses.
Old 30th January 2012
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i am using a dbx 160xt for vocal recordings (rap) in over-easy-mode with a ratio of 2.2; sounds great!!
Old 16th December 2013
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Thumbs up DBX 160x vs. 160xt

the only difference i know about the DBX 160x and the 160xt is that the 160x has an output transformer and the "xt" stands for transformer-less. I have 1 of each and i find them useful on kick and snare.
Old 12th July 2014
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the only difference i know about the DBX 160x and the 160xt is that the 160x has an output transformer and the "xt" stands for transformer-less. I have 1 of each and i find them useful on kick and snare.
This is incorrect. Both the X and XT lack a transformer unless modified from their factory default setting

Dbx 160X Instruction Manual (Page 5 of 16)
Section C of page 5 of the 160X manual explains that as a factory default, the "minus" or cold leg is strapped to the ground.

Dbx 160X Instruction Manual (Page 12 of 16)
Page 12 of the 160X manual explains the procedure to install the output transformer.

http://rdn.harmanpro.com/product_doc...l_original.pdf
Page 6 of the 160XT manual (page 5 on the pdf) explains that the XLR connection uses an active balanced amplifier to balance the signal.
Page 28 of the 160XT manual (page 16 on the pdf) explains the procedure to install the output transformer.

So to summarize, the actual difference between the X and the XT is that the XT has an electronically balanced output along with an unbalanced output, with the outputs being on separate jacks. The detector input, the balanced input, and the unbalanced input were also all given a separate jacks. Lastly, the barrier strip was removed from the XT.

So with all the scholarly information out of the way ... I'm hoping someone who has modified their X or XT to include the transformer can provide some information on the effect to the sound of the compressor. Does the transformer saturate colorfully in any way, or is it simply doing its (isolation) job?
Old 17th July 2014
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I just picked up some 160X's. They have the screws on the back. I want to get xlr I/O. Is there a mod Or adapter?. Can someone please help me with any info regarding this. Thanks
Old 20th July 2014
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Guess I'll throw in what I have learned over the years.
160 VU was all discreet components.
160X, a replacement for the 160VU, was the same except on a circuit board plus had the discreet VCA's in cans.
Some time after production started, they switched the discreet VCA to IC type. Also during this time, the 903's came out. They were baby 160X's in a modular package.They also started with discreet VCAs' in potted cans. They too were changed over to IC style vca's. XT's are later version 160Xs with XLR terminals instead of screw terminals.

I have included some pics of the different 903 VCA types.


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Old 20th July 2014
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Okay, try again with pics.
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Last edited by dfchandler; 20th July 2014 at 11:39 PM.. Reason: Pics not showing up
Old 20th July 2014
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I just picked up some 160X's. They have the screws on the back. I want to get xlr I/O. Is there a mod Or adapter?. Can someone please help me with any info regarding this. Thanks

Why would you need to mod them to get XLR out? Just make some short pig-tails cables with XLR on one end and bare wires on the other end for the screws. Then you can plug your mic cable into the XLR end of the pigtail cable.
Old 22nd July 2014
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Zombie thread revival!

The 160X compressors are my favorite of the bunch that I've heard. The A is smaller sounding.
Old 2nd March 2015
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I have 5 of the 160x now, cheap and nasty. 1 HongKong, 2 Japan and 2 US.
Neat units for what they do.
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