Good Post I would also like to know how the Delta sounds vs the
spirit Studio. I use my Soundcraft Spirit Studio 24/8/2 and sum 18 channels to it via apogee DAs.
I only use line ins on the desk so maybe the sound of the mic pre,s on the desk dont matter to me.
Just like to add that it sums way better than ITB and the EQ is bright and has great attitude for rock mixes.
For modding, the Delta is the way to go. Jim Williams does the best mods for this board and the fact that it is fully modular makes it easy to ship/repair/etc. I have never owned a Spirit studio, but i have had a Delta and its a great console even without mods! Hope this helps!
As far as modded boards go, I work on a delta three times a week, it's a fine board, but, it's not a recording board, it's a live board. It's basically a 200B. Delta 8 would be better, why not just get a Spirit LX7 if you're going that way?
I like the Spirit consoles because they already have the routing options I want, no polarity reverse, inline for recording, has double inputs for mixing if needed, there's even one with automation, for line inputs you'd be hard pressed to find the difference in the sound of the two boards (Delta and Spirit). If powered properly they sound fine and the pre's and eq are very usable. The board won't hold anyone back.
Im looking at a Soundcraft Studio 16/32 (no idea what this "32" means in the guy's listing on Craigs..anyone?)
Im also assuming that this is a "Sprit Studio"?? The listing reads "Sound craft studio 16/32 mixing board "
The guy doesn't have much info for me..not fishy, just doesn't really know much about the product I think..
Anyhow, he wants $275 and says it running good, clean pots and faders etc..
There is also a Delta 24 around the lists and Im wondering about differences in sound between Delta and Studio/Spirit Studio, modding ? on and on..hard to track all these different models on these boards..
also, I want to jump into trying to some mods myself..seems like it might be a good board to learn on
I wouldn't "bet" on it being a Spirit board.
Take a look at it. Have him send pics, or go there.
A broken piece of junk old 200B isn't going to be much help if it isn't even worth salvaging from water damage.
The pre's sound very different.
The BIGGEST difference:
IF the Spirit is a "recording" version is:
It's an inline board, which means, the monitor path is on the same channel strip as the channel path, in essence, two separate signal paths on each channel, both routable to mix, EQ able, chan/mon flippable (either one or the other can use either the sliding fader or rotary fader) and can access the mic pre, or, line inputs once flipped. Basically doubling your inputs on mix, tape returns and monitor channels, not including all the routing in the master section, inserts on EVERYTHING, direct inputs and outputs on EVERYTHING, none of which the delta will have.
The Delta will only ever have one input per channel and no tape return path. It's a "Live board" not a recording oriented board.
Maybe, it sounds like it may be an older board than the spirit line. Which is fine if it's in good shape, but, the Spirit line didn't have a 16/32 designation, sounds like a monitor console for live use. Spirit did have a monitor board, but, it's also for live use. I'd bug him about the specifics, get he printing off the board, and if he can't get specific, pass on it. There's plenty of them on ebay, well, maybe not plenty, but, they come up frequently.
It is very beefy. The channel strips are removable from the top so you do not have to pull the entire board just to service one channel. The Delta 200 or the SR I would get over the Spirit, but I like to upgrade and service my stuff myself and enjoy the older stuff for the build quality and ease of service. If you have to pay for your service, I would look for the newest mixer possible.
Right on, Karloff,
Then of course, there are also 8 more if it's the 8bus, (there's an input on each bus) which will bring you to 40 inputs, 24 of which will be line level, the other 16 will be mic or line. If you aren't using efx returns, there's 4 more stereo line inputs taking it to 44. Mix inserts, subgroup inserts, the routing on these things is unbeatable in a board anywhere near the price.
THAT is the beauty of the Spirit recording board.
I have a modded 24 channels version and I will sometimes use all 56 inputs.