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Old 27th August 2015
  #1081
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Originally Posted by loujudson View Post
The one time I was on a gig (as assistant) with an X32, the two engineers trying to run it spent more time trying to figure out the menus and settings than they ddi on soundchecking the band! I'll never use one, would turn down the gig if it were the mixer supplied.
So the engineers had no idea what they were doing. The X32 is one of the more intuitive live consoles out there. I don't see how the console can be blamed for incompetent engineers.
Old 27th August 2015
  #1082
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"For the price" is always the watchword for Behry stuff. If they ever make anything good I won't know, because I will never buy it. I'm about to give away my only Behry thing, which was given to me for free.
Gearslutz and misguided hater. I have an X32 and X18 and love them. The x32 has now become the go to console at every rental company I know.

Perhaps he should open a new thread 'I hate Behringer' instead of trolling this space here.
Old 27th August 2015
  #1083
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Originally Posted by loujudson View Post
Okay, I did read Uli's post; he claims to be honest and to do good for customers. But I still say:

Uli, I will never buy or knowingly use anything that you have anything to do with! I don't mean to be nasty, but I don't shop at whole foods or eat at mcdonalds either! (and for similar reasons.)

The one time I was on a gig (as assistant) with an X32, the two engineers trying to run it spent more time trying to figure out the menus and settings than they ddi on soundchecking the band! I'll never use one, would turn down the gig if it were the mixer supplied.

I'm an older guy, won't be buying a whole lot of new gear this lifetime, but if I did it wouldn't be Behry or any of your bought-up brands. I've never had a Behry item that gave me pleasure or good sound...

Sorry, but this is at least as honest as your statement in post #1048 .
Sounds to me like your two engineers didn't know what they were doing if they couldn't get the X32 running. It's a digital board, like many digital boards from other manufacturers, in that it has menus and subgroups.

I assisted at a show recently where a sound tech I know was given the M32 (essentially the Midas version of the X32) and he had it up and running in no time at all; he told me later that he'd only used an X32 once before and neither presented any problems for him. He liked being able to walk around with an iPad and control the mix remotely.

When one says, "I don't mean to be nasty, but..." you know that the next things said are going to be nasty, negating the previous affirmation.
Old 27th August 2015
  #1084
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Originally Posted by Uli Behringer View Post
Dear all,

allow me to introduce myself. My name is Uli Behringer, CEO of the MUSIC Group, which is the umbrella company for the brands Midas, Klark Teknik, Turbosound, Behringer and Bugera.

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But I am very proud of our 3,500 employees who are making tremendous efforts to continuously improve every aspect of our Company in order to serve you.

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Thanks again for the opportunity to speak with you all.

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I will say, ^ is impressive. I may not have tons of gear or experience, but I do own two Behringer items: Powerplay Pro XL and an Ultrapatch pro in my project studio, and they work flawlessly. Bought both used even, and no problems, no unwanted noise, and I'll continue to use them until they croak. I have plans to purchase more Behringer gear for my live setup, especially now. Way to go Uli!

Best Regards,

Tyler
Old 28th August 2015
  #1085
I´ve tried out almost all of the Behringer dynamics during the past 3 years (except for the newest boxes). I really liked the Intelligate XR2000, the Autocom MDX1000, Composer MDX2000 and the Autoquad XR2400 for it´s HP/LP filters.

My first steps into mixing OTB in the studio was with a rack full of Behringer dynamics (and a GSSL on the master bus) and I´ve gotten great results with them.
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Old 4th September 2015
  #1086
I have the ada8000's and the Ada 8200's both great interfaces.. I've heard there were problems with the power supplies in the 8000's I never had and issue but a friend had 3 of them go down on him. He was pissed. I also had owned a 1952 tube Compressor unit it sounded good vs other gear out there in its price range but the meters went down. Currently I have some 12 inch subs for playing live... They are amazing for their size/weight and sound... To me most new stuff from Behringer that has a 3 year warranty is very good overall.
Old 7th September 2015
  #1087
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Originally Posted by Gertius View Post
I´ve tried out almost all of the Behringer dynamics during the past 3 years (except for the newest boxes). I really liked the Intelligate XR2000, the Autocom MDX1000, Composer MDX2000 and the Autoquad XR2400 for it´s HP/LP filters.

My first steps into mixing OTB in the studio was with a rack full of Behringer dynamics (and a GSSL on the master bus) and I´ve gotten great results with them.
Autocom MDX1000
Old 10th September 2015
  #1088
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Sad to say my BCR2000 will be taken off the list. It's weird how a well padded move that didn't break anything managed to disable random rotaries and buttons. A shame too, since software wise it remains solid, even up to Windows 10.

The $20 headphone amp is worthwhile if you want to record and aren't interested in custom mixes for each bandmate.
Old 10th September 2015
  #1089
Test mic, EMC8000 or whatever
Old 10th September 2015
  #1090
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Sad to say my BCR2000 will be taken off the list. It's weird how a well padded move that didn't break anything managed to disable random rotaries and buttons. A shame too, since software wise it remains solid, even up to Windows 10.

Dear Fast_Fingers,

Please allow me to introduce myself; my name is Zac Ross and I am a CARE Specialist at MUSIC Group in Las Vegas, Nevada where we service and manage spare parts for all MUSIC Group brands.

In regards to your BCR2000, thank you for bringing this to our attention. If your BCR is still under warranty I would like to start a warranty claim and issue you an RA number. If not, I would like to suggest a few solutions. First, you are more than welcome to send your controller into our repair facility for inspection; we will determine a quote before repair and inform you of our findings. You may also contact a MUSIC Group authorized repair center near you for repair or internal part orders, a list of which is available at MUSIC Group: Find a service center.

I will PM you to gather your contact information and provide a ticket for your reference.

Lastly, you may reach us at [email protected] for prosumer products or [email protected] for professional products by phone at +1-702-800-8290 (US) or +44 1562 732290 (UK).

Let’s keep in touch,

Zac Ross
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MUSIC Group Services NV Inc.
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Old 19th September 2015
  #1091
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their pianos aren't bad....

https://www.google.com/search?q=beri...w=1245&bih=663
Old 20th September 2015
  #1092
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Originally Posted by Fast_Fingers View Post
Sad to say my BCR2000 will be taken off the list. It's weird how a well padded move that didn't break anything managed to disable random rotaries and buttons. A shame too, since software wise it remains solid, even up to Windows 10.
I'm still going to add the BCR2000. Mine works great. Just wish it was USB buss powered, though. I hate every extra wire I have to have.
Old 21st September 2015
  #1093
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Is anyone currently getting good recording results from the Behringer U-Phoria (USB interface) series (models UMC1820, UMC404HD, UMC22) ? Any drawbacks/complaints ?
Old 22nd September 2015
  #1094
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When I first started digital recording with a Fostex MR8, I got a UB802 for around $50 as an extrernal mixer. Had phantom power(allowed me to use a condenser mic) and pre's plus the Fostex had no tone controls. Great starter mixer for a poor person doing track by track recording. Worked great. I've upped to Mackie since then but have no regrets on the Behringer for the money.
Old 23rd September 2015
  #1095
I'm about a month into my new x32. Ten or twelve shows. I waited years to see how this thing was going to shake out. I LOVE this board and I prefer it over an LS9 or and MCL all day long which (whether you like them or not) are VERY common on the road.
I was
Pleasantly surprised to find one at the Whisky when I ran sound there a few weeks ago.
It's a great board. Not "for the price" it's just a great board.

When I can figure out patching my vst's on every channel I'll
Prefer it over an sc48
Old 24th September 2015
  #1096
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My synths and drumcomputers sound great through a Behringer Virtualizer 3D FX2000 multi effect processor (122€ new), some of it connected to mac via a ADA8200 (205€ new). No complaints over here.
Old 11th October 2015
  #1097
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go another brand. RCF,EV,DB,Yamaha
Old 11th October 2015
  #1098
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i use their behringer b1 its alright in my opinion for 60 bucks i paid new on ebay.

Old 18th October 2015
  #1099
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I think their mixer line is fine. I have one of their small mixer for my Monotron and it does a good job, it's actually way better than expected! (X802)
Old 18th October 2015
  #1100
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I have the ADA8200 the one which has APPARENTLY has Midas Designed pres. Im not sure how true that is but it does the job. Clean pres. I like it.
Old 3rd November 2015
  #1101
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Originally Posted by Calskellums View Post
I have the ADA8200 the one which has APPARENTLY has Midas Designed pres. Im not sure how true that is but it does the job. Clean pres. I like it.
Hi Calskellums,

I just wanted to jump in and mention here that this is true. The ADA8200 has preamps identical to the Midas Venice preamps.

Let’s keep in touch,

Michael Lapke
Specialist, Community
Music
Behringer
Old 18th November 2015
  #1102
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"For the price" is always the watchword for Behry stuff. If they ever make anything good I won't know, because I will never buy it. I'm about to give away my only Behry thing, which was given to me for free.
Such a shame, I'll never get rid of my Behringer V-Verb.
It's not just awesome for the price, its just a seriously awesome piece of gear.
Old 18th November 2015
  #1103
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7NCbmAdE60
Oh just look at the amps being used here, hmm hmm..
(visible from 0.54" onwards)


(Btw, as gearslutty curiosity goes, also check out the snare heavily clipping from 1.35">2.00"cca, til it gets turned down possibly only the camera mic; and check out the nice vintage&tube mic+pre+comp+tape hiss pumping up when DG is not singing, from cca 10.00" onwards... )

A
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Old 20th November 2015
  #1104
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Originally Posted by Michael Lapke View Post
Hi Calskellums,

I just wanted to jump in and mention here that this is true. The ADA8200 has preamps identical to the Midas Venice preamps.

Let’s keep in touch,

Michael Lapke
Specialist, Community
Music
Behringer
Hi Michael.

I was just curious if Behringer ever considered making a ADA8200 or ADA8000 without the preamps? There is a hole in the lower priced market for straight up adat converters without preamps, IMO.

Thanks,
Michael
Old 20th November 2015
  #1105
Gear Head
 

I've use several of those BX3000 1/4" patch bays for years and never a problem, so they were good for the price. My 1602 mixer and UB1204 mixer are pretty wonky and useless. The connections go bad and the pots get loose and they just crap out. Kinda knew this when I bought them for cheap though. the 1204 I threw away, I still use the 1602 but have to jiggle the jacks and pots to get sound lots of time.
Old 20th November 2015
  #1106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M.S.P. View Post
Hi Michael.

I was just curious if Behringer ever considered making a ADA8200 or ADA8000 without the preamps? There is a hole in the lower priced market for straight up adat converters without preamps, IMO.

Thanks,
Michael


YES.
Very exactly so.

Perhaps even a 16in/16out just (good) converters box that can do Adat & FW (& MADI, if Behringer was to bring out an equally price-aligned MADI card) and that is priced as Behringer can price.
Old 21st November 2015
  #1107
Gear Nut
I've been looking into a new digital mixer lately and I must admit Behringer seems to get the feature set right more often than not. If I wasn't such a gear snob I would already have one. I do have a small Xenyx1202fx analog mixer as a backup or solo gigs that hasn't let me down.
Old 21st November 2015
  #1108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M.S.P. View Post
Hi Michael.

I was just curious if Behringer ever considered making a ADA8200 or ADA8000 without the preamps? There is a hole in the lower priced market for straight up adat converters without preamps, IMO.

Thanks,
Michael
Hi Michael,

Nope, not that I know of anyways. I'll let you know if I hear anything though. Thanks!

Let’s keep in touch,

Michael Lapke
Specialist, Community
Music
Behringer
Old 21st November 2015
  #1109
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Behringer

I have a Behringer UFX1604 we use as a live PA mixer which sounds amazing for $750.

Does it sound like my Sony MXP3036 down in the studio or my 1073 preamps, no but it sounds better to my old ears than mixers we used live in the 70's & 80's.

It also will record each of the 16 channels directly to a USB/3.0 stick or USB hard drive at 44.1/24bit or 48hz 24-bit.

If the USB stick is to slow it will resolve to 16-bit 44.1 kHz. There are some 3.0 USB sticks that are too slow and dropouts will occur.

The USB stick must be able to write a minimum of 100 mb/sec. I blamed the Behringer at first for drop-outs on my first recording and then found the 3.0 USB stick we used could not write fast enough.

I was skeptical at first with the one knob compressor function but it is very useable. It has two reasonable sounding digital/delay reverbs on board.

I also have 4-channel Behringer mixers which are $50 each and we use them to drive the headphones in the studio and they work well for this task.

We have a total of 6-Behringer mixers and one has a power supply failure but it is over 3 years old and for the most part Behringer gear is disposable rather than fixable.

However, the 3 year old 16 chanel mixer that failed paid for itself. It was $400 and we simply used it to monitor back from the RADAR during the live recording process.

These tracks were mixed back in the studio via the Sony MXP3036.



I also have a pair of Behringer B210 stage monitors that have done nearly 50 dates in the last 3 years and they are still working really well.

I also have a 1/3 of an octave dual channel EQ with feedback frequency indication.

It is brilliant for live and the B210's could use a bit of EQ.

I wouldn't use it to EQ the Studio monitors but its great for setting up a simple on stage monitor mix that facilitates live recording.

A Company with such a huge product list as Behringer cannot really do it all.

We have a Behringer stereo digital reverb/delay multi-processor that never gets used. It is not user friendly and does not sound as good as my TC processors.

However, it did have a lot more variations and was better sounding than the first Micro Verbs and early DDL that started to show up in the late 70's and early 80's.


Now, you can't throw the "baby out with the bathwater".


I find they make some useful and decent sounding products and I probably have personally experienced less than 10% of their total product line.

Cheers, Dave Thomas
aamicrophones.com








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Originally Posted by Billster View Post
A lot of manufacturers produce even more nice sounding, good looking and reasonable priced gear with a right to live. Maybe they have one unit that does not live up to the expectations, but in general these manufacturers do a good job.

Now, complete different story with Behringer. They offer a lot of bad sounding, cheap looking and not reasonable priced gear (noone pays for dog****, right ?!). But does Behringer also offer one or even two units that do not live up to the expectation since they actually do sound good ? Hmmm, nothing comes to my mind...

Can you guys think of anything ?

Bill
Old 27th November 2015
  #1110
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Monitor speakers

I've been using their larger powered studio monitors (with the ribbon tweeters), and they're very usable. For the stuff I record they're good value for money, but probably wouldn't use them for anything critical.
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