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WANTED: Good vintage sounding mic for Country recording
Old 16th March 2009
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WANTED: Good vintage sounding mic for Country recording

Newbie here. Just first saying great forums here, good useful content here. Now to my question. Im looking for a mic(s) around 0-200 used or new that has that old vintage country sound to it. Ill be using this to record guitar, possibly a banjo, possibly harmonica, and vocals. What mic(s) would you suggest? Ill be using a macbook with a presonus firewire interface. Thanks alot !!
Old 16th March 2009
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If you want sort of an old timey country sound, how about a ribbon mic like an Apex 205? An ADK Hamburg is supposed to do have that sound, but I've never had a chance to use one extensively.
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Kel Audio HM-7U, very warm mic, cheap too, and sounds great!
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Cascade Fathead.
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Just how vintage are you talking? Recording on wax cylinders vintage?
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What vintage? Getting the band around a horn and cutting wax is certainly vintage.



-tINY

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Depending on what sound you are going for a 57 might be the ticket for you. A ribbon might serve you well but these mics can be tricky for you to get good results from depending on your room and experience level.
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Depending on what sound you are going for a 57 might be the ticket for you.
thumbsup +1 that and maybea cheap ribbon but for $200 the list of vintage options is extremly short...and if your talking vintage you also want to keep in mind the sound of 15ips in the back of your head.
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Newbie here. Just first saying great forums here, good useful content here. Now to my question. Im looking for a mic(s) around 0-200 used or new that has that old vintage country sound to it. Ill be using this to record guitar, possibly a banjo, possibly harmonica, and vocals. What mic(s) would you suggest? Ill be using a macbook with a presonus firewire interface. Thanks alot !!
Hmmmm..... I do not think you are going to find what you looking for in the $200 range.
$2000 and sure now we are talking.

A Rode NT1A mic, Studio Projects C1, a AT2020 from Audio-Technica might do the trick for you.

Old vintage country sound --- most likely you are talking about the classic Neumanns or Telfunkins. Big bucks.

Hope that helps.
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An Audio Tech 4033 has been used for years to record ac. guitars, banjo, and dobro's. It's not totally vintage sounding but .....it is a vintage process
Old 16th March 2009
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. Im looking for a mic(s) around 0-200 used or new that has that old vintage country sound to it.
That old vintage country sound? Like the classic old country recordings that came out of Nashville in the 60's? The sound of those studios (RCA and Bradley's) had more to do with the sound of the recordings than the mics. Not to mention the musicians themselves.

Most of that classic sound was recorded with RCA ribbon mics into tube preamps, and they were recorded to tape, not digital, and those are definitely big factors in the sound. The old classics don't have much going on over 15k and not much low end either.

If you want to sound like the old classics, you also have to keep in mind mixing styles of that era. For example, all the drums are tucked way in the background. And everything is drenched in reverb. Nothing is overly bright, overly present, or in-your-face (like today's music).

But since you're asking about buying a cheap mic, the guy who recommended the SM-57 had the right idea. That or an SM-58. They're really the same mic, but the SM-58 has the metal grille on the end to break up plosives. Those two mics, with their absence of high frequencies, will get you in the ballpark. And if you can afford a ribbon mic, check out the Cascade Fathead that was also recommended above. It's probably the best bargain in ribbon mics.

But if you think any one mic (whether $100 or $5000) is going to make your recordings sound like old vintage country records... you're going to be seriously disappointed.
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Wink

Add the Electro-Voice EV 635a omni dynamic, and the EV RE15 (or RE16) to the shortlist. They REALLY were used back then!

Chris
Old 17th March 2009
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Thanks for the input. I know that one mic isnt gonna do everything i need. I just needed to see what the best starting point is.
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tape would be the best starting point
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Without any knowledge of your current gear list and skill level it is impossible to say what difference $200 will make for your current circumstance.

With that in mind, here are the 2 possible scenarios:

1- If we assume that you know what you are doing and have enough gear to record a full band, regardless of the quality level of said gear, $200 is not going to make a difference. If you know what you are doing and have the bare minimum in terms of gear to actually capture the performances, you probably will be OK with what you have. At least when considering the possibility of a significant improvement for a $200 investment.

2- If you are a newb and have no gear, $200 will not help you. The tone of the end result depends on the skill on the AE, the song, the arrangement of the song, and the musicianship. $200 will not get you much. If you think it will you probably do not have enough experience to realize that it won't.

In either case don't waste your money..
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Find an old EV 664 or 666.
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