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Old 6th April 2003
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G&R...Appetite for Destruction

I pulled it out a few days ago after not listening to it for like 3 years. Holy crap. What a good album. Sure, it sounds a little dated but at least the snare doesn't have a gated 'verb on it. I can't believe it's about 16 years old at this point. Anyone else have thoughts on this one?
Old 6th April 2003
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That was/is such a great record. It came out and blew away all the poser hard rock that was going on at the time. It's too bad all the members bailed out (or were kicked out). They had some nice rock n' roll chemistry going on.
Old 6th April 2003
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It's the only g-n-r record worth owning! I had a roommate in college who used to literally rock the whole dorm with that record.
Old 6th April 2003
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It's classic. Somehow they were one of the only groups of that era to have a record I wouldn't consider "hair band" these days.
Old 6th April 2003
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that was their best album. i still have my copy somewhere and listen to it from time to time.
Old 6th April 2003
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OMFG.... (oh my ****ing god)

I really cant think of another album that wants to make people from all walks of life wana strut their **** int he middle of the supermarket in suburbia... Imagine a lawyer suddenly pulling air guitar to sweet child of mine an dthinking for a second he's slash! and the checkout chics signing the chorus like some chirstian brainwashed cult.. and the service manageress jumping onto the counter to pull the strained emotionally charged vocals of AXL whislt showing a bit of leg that ordinarily she would be far to coy to show... such is the power of AXL' s sheer vocal delivery

I mean i have allways wanted a 'paradise city' kik sound... the verb man... the verb!

Jules u MUST get Mike Clink to moderate..... it would be the online equvalent of the 'crue's' dirt!.....

Any LA crew?... was he do these days? Eque?

ROCK DOG extraordinaiire!

PEACE
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Old 6th April 2003
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Amazing record. The other thing about it that I love is the tension created by the rhythm section, it just feels like it could all fall apart at any second.. love it.

I was only like 14 when it hit, but even then I remember thinking, Rawk is back!
Old 6th April 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Meriphew
That was/is such a great record. It came out and blew away all the poser hard rock that was going on at the time. It's too bad all the members bailed out (or were kicked out). They had some nice rock n' roll chemistry going on.
It certainly is a great record, but I find the concept of it blowing away poser rock really funny. In my circles, they were referred to as Guns and Posers, until the big aids benifit concert. An interview with Kylie Minogue featured her talking about "Goons and Roses" so the name became Goons and Posers. At any rate, they clearly came from the same scene that produced Motley Crue ans similar excesses, and probably distilled all that was good from those origins. Then they became the worst of rock excess bull****, with Axl's touring shrink et al.
Old 6th April 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by covert
It certainly is a great record, but I find the concept of it blowing away poser rock really funny. In my circles, they were referred to as Guns and Posers, until the big aids benifit concert. An interview with Kylie Minogue featured her talking about "Goons and Roses" so the name became Goons and Posers. At any rate, they clearly came from the same scene that produced Motley Crue ans similar excesses, and probably distilled all that was good from those origins. Then they became the worst of rock excess bull****, with Axl's touring shrink et al.
Clearly everyone could tell that G&R were glam when they started - but they had substance (no not just that kind of substance) to their music unlike Poison, Warrant, and so many others. To me G&R were glam more in the vein of Hanoi Rocks, Sweet, and T Rex.
Old 6th April 2003
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Ever listen to the intro to Paradise City and notice how they muted out the hat? You can just barely hear it back there.
Old 6th April 2003
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If thats the album Bill Price mixed, I have the scoop on the mix.

The band liked loud music mixes, Axle liked loud vocal mixes, no mixer could satisfy BOTH parties. This dragged on.

Bill, made a "music" sub group and a totaly seperate vocal sub group.

Each were compressed,

the "music" group like a mix

The vocal group, like vocals

He blended the two groups at the mix buss.

This allowed BOTH to be loud and he got the gig to mix the whole album.


Old 7th April 2003
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Ahhh the 80's!

One of the only really great bands to come out of the 80's...
They definitely deserve a page in rock n roll history--who can't recognize one of slash's infectious licks!?

heh I remember the days... They'd be causing all sorts of trouble, ending up on the 10 o'clock news, at least once a week.
Old 7th April 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wiggy Neve Slut

Any LA crew?... was he do these days? Eque?

ROCK DOG extraordinaiire!

PEACE
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They were locked up at Rumba for a couple years. When I say "they", I mean Axl & the new members. The last couple years they've been at The Village. I bumped into Axl. He said "Hello, My name is Axl Rose", so I said "Hello ALEX ". Oh well, I thought it was funny. He failed to see the humor. I haven't seen Mike. Beneato's taco stand maybe? (jk...)
Old 7th April 2003
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I'm terribly unnerved not to see any irony in this thread. Y'all are kidding, right? No?.... I was afraid of that...

Those were tough times, back then, tough times.
Old 7th April 2003
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I was about 10 when I "discovered" Appetite. Slash was one of the reasons I started playing guitar. He just looked so damn cool with the Les Paul and the top hat. Plus, the TONE. Man, it's really tough to beat a Paul and a Marshall. I need to get a Les Paul one of these days. I've owned a few knock-offs over the years but never a real Standard or Custom. I also like most of the Use Your Illusion discs, there's some great songs on there and some crap too IMHO. Actually, if you like Appetite you should track down a copy of Snakepits "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". I also need to grab a copy of Izzy's solo disc, I remember that being pretty cool with a Stones vibe but now I can't find it.
Old 7th April 2003
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Yes the top hat was cool, but as far as tone, and feel, did the guy have .009's on that thing or what? I never felt that any one note ever got it's due, and coming from a blues background, I feel that's a major injustice to a Les Paul.

The Shanghai Noodle Factory...

I WILL say, that they did have a human rhythm section groove, not at all metronomic. That I do appreciate, a little boogie in there.
Old 7th April 2003
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Jay, the Izzy disc IS good, you should be happy if you find it. They got a really great tone on there in a few instances by taking one of those little portable amps that looks like a marshall stack, and running the headphone out, straight into a fender amp, I believe it was a bassman reissue.
Old 7th April 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ted Nightshade
Yes the top hat was cool, but as far as tone, and feel, did the guy have .009's on that thing or what? I never felt that any one note ever got it's due, and coming from a blues background, I feel that's a major injustice to a Les Paul.

The Shanghai Noodle Factory...

I WILL say, that they did have a human rhythm section groove, not at all metronomic. That I do appreciate, a little boogie in there.
Oh come on man... The opening line to "Sweet Child O Mine"?! No note ever got it's due?

Let's just agree to disagree.
Old 7th April 2003
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I'm happy with that!

FWIW, Albert Collins taught me about giving it to one note- after hearing him I locked myself up and played one note all damn night, busted about ten strings... Then I worked on getting the second note going.
Old 7th April 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ted Nightshade


I WILL say, that they did have a human rhythm section groove, not at all metronomic. That I do appreciate, a little boogie in there.
Steven Adler and Duff made quite a great groove. The reason I don't the other records is because Steven was gone. I love where he put the snare. I bought one of my many ride cymbals because it sounds a lot like one of the ones on Appetite.
Old 7th April 2003
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Quote:
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Steven Adler and Duff made quite a great groove. The reason I don't the other records is because Steven was gone. I love where he put the snare. I bought one of my many ride cymbals because it sounds a lot like one of the ones on Appetite.
yeah, I have a friend who was ( is?) involved with the band, and he watched as they really did try everthing they could to keep him straight enough to play, but it was not happening. Adler was a total wreck by the end.
Old 7th April 2003
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Speaking of Ader, has anyone seen his "offical fan club" website? Pretty sad. I came across it a few weeks ago while looking for something else.
Old 7th April 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by Drumsound
It's the only g-n-r record worth owning! I had a roommate in college who used to literally rock the whole dorm with that record.
Doing this as I type this!!!!!!!!!!

Old 7th April 2003
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Speaking of Ader, has anyone seen his "offical fan club" website? Pretty sad. I came across it a few weeks ago while looking for something else.
wow that \is sad....
Old 8th April 2003
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Ummmm.... isn't that the record where the band was barely conscious from heroin & drinking, while some poor AE was editing takes like a freakin banshee to compose the record? Rock and f*cking roll...
Old 8th April 2003
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And how is that any different then editing tape and putting "Good Vibrations" togther? Ok, maybe it's a little different but still.
Old 8th April 2003
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G&R

Not much else to say that already hasn't been said, but Appetite was one of the loudest, dirtiest, and crunchiest mixes and complilations ever made. Perfect for the music it was representing of course.

I remember seeing the video for welcome to the jungle and seeing how glammed out it was, but in this trashy sort of evil way. I remember saying out loud, "what the f**k is this?"

But anyways great hard rock, and JULES, didn't Mike Barbiero mix that album, or at least part of it?

p.s. who would've known back then that slash was actually besides a great rock guitarist, so fluent in jazz etc etc.????

-dano
Old 8th April 2003
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A great record. Took me a while to get 'used' to it, though (coming from a more 'polished' perspective)... I grimaced all the way through the first few listens--sounded out of tune/intonation to my ears at the time. Then the dissonance just kind of faded away and I fell in love with the rawness of the production.

And I agree about the groove factor. IMHO, Adler was not a great drummer by any stretch, and had some timing issues, but there was something cool about Steve, Duff, and Izzy, combined.

*WARNING: Gossip following...
BTW, a producer friend of a friend was contacted by a mook about cutting some vox tracks for a singer trying out for a new band. He received the music bed, cut the vox tracks and sent them in. The next time he spoke to said mook, he asked if the guy got the job, and the mook asked what he thought of the tracks. Producer said they were pretty cool, sounded like 'Appetite' era GNR. So the mook tells him "Yeah, it should because it's the original lineup sans Axl and Adler (but w/Matt S.)..." So producer asks if the singer got the gig and is told that they loved his demo, but Scott Weiland (from STP) has agreed to fill the lead vox slot...
Again, this is unsubstantiated, but would be a cool project.
Old 9th April 2003
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It's pretty widely known in some circles that Slash, Duff and Izzy are playing as a group again. Is anything going to come out of it? Who the hell knows, but I hope so. And having Scott Weiland in there would just be too cool. If there's a record I'd hope that it's cooler then the Audioslave disc.
Old 9th April 2003
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That album has stood the test of time, and though I never was a GnR fan - it really did help break the rut Rock had fallen into.

More importantly, I think Gibson should thank Slash daily... his work with the Les Paul made every wannabee kid drop his Ibanez and beg for a Gold Top. Plenty of young guitarists I knew trashed him, but they were all out there looking at the Gibson again.

-g
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